Custom tactics suggestions for realistic gameplay in FIFA 09 - Page 15

StevenSeagalNL · 15-05-2009, 07:48 PM

I haven't gone through editing all those teams, but some of your articles have had their use in tweaking the custom tactics of the team I use in MM Blue!

Still tweaking though, in way it's kind of a shame you have to do so much of this. In PES I like to tweak around with formations and settings, but the outcome seems to make more sense to me. In FIFA I do feel more 'lost'. Yesterday I changed some custom tactics after a few 'stiff' games (perhaps they had to do with giving some young talent with 60's stats play time too

).

For example in the attack I went from freeform to organised and from 'high' normal passing to safe and had a much easier next game. Not to say easier is necessarily better, I'm also looking for a challenging good game with varied goals

, but it gave the impression that these settings suit the team better. What I find kind of frustrating is that there seems so much more to explore between let's say safe 33 and normal 66 (if i remember these numbers correctly). I guess I'd kinda want to find some definite settings at some point to see if I could stand up against 'abusers' online while trying to play actual football lol

Probably couldn't stand all the quitting and unsportmanship behaviour though that I see mentioned in all the threads.

halolma · 15-05-2009, 10:26 PM

hey blue, tried to find your tactics on the EA Locker, and they are not there

any ideas?

StevenSeagalNL · 15-05-2009, 11:25 PM

As in this thread things seem to get discussed seriously, I hope you don't mind me dropping this in here.

I have shooting on semi. For shooting from distance does it just work in a really sensitive way? I was fiddling around with it in the arena yesterday and I hadn't really been that succesful with it yet, but suddenly I was getting much more interesting results and I mean when you are dribbling not when the ball is coming your way already so you can run into it and scorch it from there.

I worked in a couple of finesse shots, proper long range well outside of the box. They would dip high into the corners by adding just a slight bit of touch, top left or top right.

Same for normal shots, except adding some touch down left or right which in combination with the right power seemed to make the shots travel up and give them enough punch to beat the keeper.

Am I on to the right feeling now? I really got a few brilliant shots in and hadn't managed them like that from such distances before.

lungfull · 15-05-2009, 11:27 PM

you know that shooting is full assist in the arena...

StevenSeagalNL · 15-05-2009, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by lungfull

you know that shooting is full assist in the arena...

Ah really?

No man I had no idea. I figured your settings would apply to the whole game. I mean it would make sense to think that wouldn't it? Now there's even less use for that arena if that's the case

Hmm well assisted shooting is not an option for me, certainly offline it's not. Back to 'training' long shots in game then grrrr.

lungfull · 15-05-2009, 11:39 PM

yea im sure it is dude...
i use manual shooting myself....been trying to really think about what im doin when shooting during games...trying to use low power to get shots on target...

i have the power bar above the players head and dont really look at it during normal play...so just doin it by feel...

recently put my difficulty up to world class and changed the camera to broadcast....its almost like learning the game again since you have to think about defending allot more...
cant bring another player over to help tackle cos you end up leaving a gap at the back and the cpu lets you have it with a mean through ball..lol

StevenSeagalNL · 16-05-2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lungfull

yea im sure it is dude...
i use manual shooting myself....been trying to really think about what im doin when shooting during games...trying to use low power to get shots on target...

ok respect! i found that manual shooting well tricky but it has been a while ago since i tried that. can't say i disliked the goals i scored for getting that manual labour achievement though

might as well have a go at it again soon. and yes after these results in the arena i was planning on being more on what i'm exactly doing when shooting anyway

Quote:

i have the power bar above the players head and dont really look at it during normal play...so just doin it by feel...

feel should do, i was overpowering free kicks at first too. now got the feeling going much better as they don't really need that much when not too far outside of the box.

Quote:

recently put my difficulty up to world class and changed the camera to broadcast....its almost like learning the game again since you have to think about defending allot more...
cant bring another player over to help tackle cos you end up leaving a gap at the back and the cpu lets you have it with a mean through ball..lol

i think i'll stick to wide

im at world class too, bit more assisted than you though, but the more i master things the more i will give up on that too. i'll have a go at the shooting soon and then the crosses.

lungfull · 16-05-2009, 06:11 PM

world class is def testing me....i keep getting beaten in the last 5 minutes

StevenSeagalNL · 17-05-2009, 11:24 PM

Tried the arena for a bit with manual shooting on and I have to agree that arena is all assisted.

On a positive note I did realize during that try out how relatively easy it actually is to round the keeper

lungfull · 18-05-2009, 12:02 AM

cool.

Rev010193 · 18-05-2009, 12:53 AM

With these custom tactics, I was wondering if say you were beating a team, and they decide to change tactics and go more aggressive, does the AI change to an unsuitable tactic (ie. low aggression, high pressure)? Or does the change in tactics simply mean they shoot more, lump the ball upfield more etc.?

bluchampblogger · 18-05-2009, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rev010193

With these custom tactics, I was wondering if say you were beating a team, and they decide to change tactics and go more aggressive, does the AI change to an unsuitable tactic (ie. low aggression, high pressure)? Or does the change in tactics simply mean they shoot more, lump the ball upfield more etc.?

I guess these tactics remain throughout the match for the AI opponent and what they change is only the attack-mindedness and defence-mindedness. I think I'm right (based on the matches I have played so far io these settings).

lungfull · 18-05-2009, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bluchampblogger

I guess these tactics remain throughout the match for the AI opponent and what they change is only the attack-mindedness and defence-mindedness. I think I'm right (based on the matches I have played so far io these settings).

yea apart from when the cpu has a player sent off....then the formation changes..
as you say tho blu the cpu will so the same thing we can do with the D-pad...go on the attack or defence.

Garif · 09-06-2009, 03:19 AM

Messed around with these tactics for a bit, created a few different variations and what not, and then I edited every single league in the game (took a few hours) based off real standings. Started a manager mode recently and the results have been VERY interesting.

I started with Ligue 2 side Dijon FCO. So far there are 3 league games left in the season and the table is extremely tight. Right now I'm tied with RC Strasbourg for 3rd place (which means promotion to Ligue 1), but leading on away goals (we have EXACTLY the same goal differnece). My record is 15-16-4, and I can say that the football is definately more realistic. My games finish a lot tighter than before, often resulting in ties, and my strikers are no longer scoring 35+ goals a season.

Right now my lead striker has 18 goals in 31 games (almost all of them are headers), and my keeper has 15 clean sheets. Almost every game I play is won in the midfield, and splitting defenders with these tactics are tough.

If you like manager mode, and you're finding the game far too easy, I highly recommend saving these tactics and editing all the leagues you want to play in.

Great job to BluChampBlogger for sharing this with us.

D-Smith-LFC · 09-06-2009, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lungfull

you know that shooting is full assist in the arena...

That is in-correct my friend. If you change from assisted to manual and go straight back in the arena, it stays the same.

However when you turn your xbox back on the next time you play fifa the Controls will have changed to Manual.

Try it if you don't believe me.

usctrojan5822 · 14-06-2009, 09:24 PM

blu can u do 1 for la galaxy plz

15-05-2009, 10:26 PM	#352 (permalink)
halolma Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dubiln, Ireland Posts: 495	hey blue, tried to find your tactics on the EA Locker, and they are not there any ideas? __________________

15-05-2009, 11:27 PM	#354 (permalink)
lungfull Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: UK Age: 29 Gender: Male Posts: 672	you know that shooting is full assist in the arena... __________________ ----------------- PSN ID. Lungfull

15-05-2009, 11:39 PM	#356 (permalink)
lungfull Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: UK Age: 29 Gender: Male Posts: 672	yea im sure it is dude... i use manual shooting myself....been trying to really think about what im doin when shooting during games...trying to use low power to get shots on target... i have the power bar above the players head and dont really look at it during normal play...so just doin it by feel... recently put my difficulty up to world class and changed the camera to broadcast....its almost like learning the game again since you have to think about defending allot more... cant bring another player over to help tackle cos you end up leaving a gap at the back and the cpu lets you have it with a mean through ball..lol __________________ ----------------- PSN ID. Lungfull

16-05-2009, 06:11 PM	#358 (permalink)
lungfull Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: UK Age: 29 Gender: Male Posts: 672	world class is def testing me....i keep getting beaten in the last 5 minutes __________________ ----------------- PSN ID. Lungfull

18-05-2009, 12:02 AM	#360 (permalink)
lungfull Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: UK Age: 29 Gender: Male Posts: 672	cool. __________________ ----------------- PSN ID. Lungfull

15-05-2009, 07:48 PM	#351 (permalink)
StevenSeagalNL Rookie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Netherlands :D Posts: 18	I haven't gone through editing all those teams, but some of your articles have had their use in tweaking the custom tactics of the team I use in MM Blue! Still tweaking though, in way it's kind of a shame you have to do so much of this. In PES I like to tweak around with formations and settings, but the outcome seems to make more sense to me. In FIFA I do feel more 'lost'. Yesterday I changed some custom tactics after a few 'stiff' games (perhaps they had to do with giving some young talent with 60's stats play time too ). For example in the attack I went from freeform to organised and from 'high' normal passing to safe and had a much easier next game. Not to say easier is necessarily better, I'm also looking for a challenging good game with varied goals , but it gave the impression that these settings suit the team better. What I find kind of frustrating is that there seems so much more to explore between let's say safe 33 and normal 66 (if i remember these numbers correctly). I guess I'd kinda want to find some definite settings at some point to see if I could stand up against 'abusers' online while trying to play actual football lol Probably couldn't stand all the quitting and unsportmanship behaviour though that I see mentioned in all the threads.

15-05-2009, 11:25 PM	#353 (permalink)
StevenSeagalNL Rookie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Netherlands :D Posts: 18	As in this thread things seem to get discussed seriously, I hope you don't mind me dropping this in here. I have shooting on semi. For shooting from distance does it just work in a really sensitive way? I was fiddling around with it in the arena yesterday and I hadn't really been that succesful with it yet, but suddenly I was getting much more interesting results and I mean when you are dribbling not when the ball is coming your way already so you can run into it and scorch it from there. I worked in a couple of finesse shots, proper long range well outside of the box. They would dip high into the corners by adding just a slight bit of touch, top left or top right. Same for normal shots, except adding some touch down left or right which in combination with the right power seemed to make the shots travel up and give them enough punch to beat the keeper. Am I on to the right feeling now? I really got a few brilliant shots in and hadn't managed them like that from such distances before.

17-05-2009, 11:24 PM	#359 (permalink)
StevenSeagalNL Rookie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Netherlands :D Posts: 18	Tried the arena for a bit with manual shooting on and I have to agree that arena is all assisted. On a positive note I did realize during that try out how relatively easy it actually is to round the keeper

18-05-2009, 12:53 AM	#361 (permalink)
Rev010193 Rookie Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 218	With these custom tactics, I was wondering if say you were beating a team, and they decide to change tactics and go more aggressive, does the AI change to an unsuitable tactic (ie. low aggression, high pressure)? Or does the change in tactics simply mean they shoot more, lump the ball upfield more etc.? Last edited by Rev010193; 18-05-2009 at 12:55 AM..

09-06-2009, 03:19 AM	#364 (permalink)
Garif Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New York Gender: Male Posts: 333	Messed around with these tactics for a bit, created a few different variations and what not, and then I edited every single league in the game (took a few hours) based off real standings. Started a manager mode recently and the results have been VERY interesting. I started with Ligue 2 side Dijon FCO. So far there are 3 league games left in the season and the table is extremely tight. Right now I'm tied with RC Strasbourg for 3rd place (which means promotion to Ligue 1), but leading on away goals (we have EXACTLY the same goal differnece). My record is 15-16-4, and I can say that the football is definately more realistic. My games finish a lot tighter than before, often resulting in ties, and my strikers are no longer scoring 35+ goals a season. Right now my lead striker has 18 goals in 31 games (almost all of them are headers), and my keeper has 15 clean sheets. Almost every game I play is won in the midfield, and splitting defenders with these tactics are tough. If you like manager mode, and you're finding the game far too easy, I highly recommend saving these tactics and editing all the leagues you want to play in. Great job to BluChampBlogger for sharing this with us.

14-06-2009, 09:24 PM	#366 (permalink)
usctrojan5822 Rookie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: usa Age: 16 Gender: Male Posts: 289	blu can u do 1 for la galaxy plz __________________ PSN: StevenBC17 & StevenBC99