Hello from the Team

[smeltzerinho]

Originally Posted by Footballister

Hello David !

The Game is great...I love it how the ball is flying now and other things !
To play Online 10 : 10 is also nice and good - but I think it would be better to have the possibility to say how many players can join in. It is very difficult to play now at the beginnig 10:10 ...chaos on the field ! I hope you understand what I mean ?!
thx

you do know the captain can kick out players ?

When the match starts, kick out all the players you dont want in your team

or buy a mic and swear at them in the lobby

[RampantReed]

This is killing online play, major major issue that tons of people are having on both Xbox Live and PSN

"This Game Session Is No Longer Available"

[Demon01uk2007]

Originally Posted by Mikeeboy

What a load of lalalalalala

It's clear to me you have never played Fifa09

[Demon01uk2007]

Originally Posted by gcooley

some valid points, some not so valid. As for GTA.......did you actually enjoy doing the same thing over and over and over and over again in that game.....it looked pretty but lacked any substance. The online sucked albiet it was there first attempt.

As for fifa. Games development is not finite its an evolution. So sure somethings are worse than others but to be fair they dont deliberately try to make a bad game or buggy game. Its just life things get ommitted or arent quite as good as they could be.

Lets just see what they say in the coming days before we keep moaning about the same things over and over. They already said they are looking in to the feasibility of fixing or addressing these issues. Give them time to look in to it. Hell the games only been out a week.

GTA is no different to Fifa in way both games get repetative after awhile

What you have to remember is rockstar dont release a GTA every year claiming it has this and that and dont deliver the goods
and its all ok saying give them time but again these games should be tested before release
Its not ok to ship out a broken game
the only reason we accept it is because we never speak out
I cannot imagine what would happen if we was unable to download updates for games

[gcooley]

Originally Posted by Demon01uk2007

GTA is no different to Fifa in way both games get repetative after awhile

What you have to remember is rockstar dont release a GTA every year claiming it has this and that and dont deliver the goods
and its all ok saying give them time but again these games should be tested before release
Its not ok to ship out a broken game
the only reason we accept it is because we never speak out
I cannot imagine what would happen if we was unable to download updates for games

Fifa differs a great deal from GTA in that it is linked to real world though fans and seasons so it has appeal for longer. Online makes it even better as you cant account for how every person plays.

There are other big differences but the premise remains the same.

The problem is reality dictates that these games need to be released on a cycle of around 10 months. This means limited development and test time. It also puts the teams under agreat amount of pressure which is why there are minor errors and ommissions. Thats just human nature.

Things are missing and dont work quite right but for an up to date game engine, latest teams and all the improvements to the game.

What else can you expect? The holy grail for them as much as us is to build it 100% perfect as that gives them less to do the following year but thats just not possible when we as fans want a game each season and with improvements and new features. Everytime something is added or changed you run the risk of breaking it or annoying people who liked it the way it was.

Because gaming is subjective and emotive it means that we will have differing expectations and opinions on all aspects of the game. So really its hard enough to develop any software, developing gaming software for not only one moving target but every fan is going to be impossible.

[Mikeeboy]

Originally Posted by Demon01uk2007

It's clear to me you have never played Fifa09

Players still crab walk to the through balls
That's because you're not passing it when they're actually making their run
Man utd/Barca still spawn the ball off rebounds and run through players like they aint there. Rubbish, learn to tackle.
Players are still Underrated/Overrated Matter of opinion, same for everyone.
Wins not being given when a player quits on ranked Hmm, that's bad, you need to wait a bit longer before you quit out of the game
The curl on the freekicks is like watching someone wearing Banana boots Only a few players, and depends which way you're pushing
Goalkeepers rushing out too much If a guy is though on goal, I'm going to rush out my keeper, what's the problem??
Red cards for nothing Don't think so. 2 footers from behind or arguably last man although sometimes that's borderline, just like real football
Offsides when your clearly not offside There's lines on the pich in the replay??
Advantage played for 2 secs then your called back for the freekick after you are through on goal and about to score Ok a little annoying but how often does that happen?

I'll adjust. Mostly lalalalalala.

[smeltzerinho]

You're wrong about the crab walking, even EA themselves admit it's a **** up in real life, when someone plays a through ball the striker's not expecting or not ready for.... do you or have you seen any player EVER run from side to side? No, no you do not

..and red cards are dished out for challenges that aren't even worthy of a yellow. It's like you can't commit a foul without getting booked. Who are the refs? Hitler's Youth?

[SykikJV]

Originally Posted by EA_DavidRutter

So I'm not Canadian. I'm English. We've got 18 different nationalities on the team including English, Scottish, Welsh, French, Italian, Spanish, Austrian, Argentinian, Columbian, Japanese, Korean etc etc.

Servers were taken down and upgraded last night. Hopefully they should be better.

Were looking at a number of issues, as I've stated in earlier posts, and I'll let you know exactly whats going on when we know what the plan is.

Cheers - and yet again thanks for your patience.

D

All of you people know a lot about football. That's pretty clear when playing Fifa 09.

All of you already have done one hell of a job creating this, as it is in many aspects the football-game ever.

Keep that in mind when you are working on these improvements. With these improvements a great game will even better...

[Mikeeboy]

Originally Posted by smeltzerinho

You're wrong about the crab walking, even EA themselves admit it's a **** up in real life, when someone plays a through ball the striker's not expecting or not ready for.... do you or have you seen any player EVER run from side to side? No, no you do not

..and red cards are dished out for challenges that aren't even worthy of a yellow. It's like you can't commit a foul without getting booked. Who are the refs? Hitler's Youth?

They crab walk when they're already standing still, or coming back from offside. If they're on a run and you pass through I've never seen a striker stop going for it.

I haven't personally experienced a red card when I have slid and didn't think it was possible for me to get red.

[smeltzerinho]

well you're lucky on both counts you have experienced neither 'cause I bet the majority have.

the crab walk is done by defenders as well, are they coming from offside or standing still? na, they're running....then start going all randomly crabby. It's a bug, and it needs fixin'

[gcooley]

I rarely get the trapping issue it mainly occurs on throughballs lobbed or ground level when I have a defender or attacker approaching.

Never been sent off in 50+ ranked online games.

The trapping thing looks like the player is trying to get in to a position to take the ball but isnt close enough to control it. I super cancel pretty much everytime i switch player so maybe thats why its not as apprent to me. But i do think its to do the speed differential of the ball and the player and the AI/Animations dont know how to control it.

2p

[Trance_Allstar]

Originally Posted by smeltzerinho

You're wrong about the crab walking, even EA themselves admit it's a **** up in real life, when someone plays a through ball the striker's not expecting or not ready for.... do you or have you seen any player EVER run from side to side? No, no you do not

..and red cards are dished out for challenges that aren't even worthy of a yellow. It's like you can't commit a foul without getting booked. Who are the refs? Hitler's Youth?

I've seen one isntance of a red card where the slidtackling player was basically lieing still on the ground, and he barely touched the opponent, who in turn barely even stumbled.

Still, that is from several matches, so I've not experienced it to be a big problem, although some people have played alot more than me or might have different playing styles so it might be more intrusive and noticeable.

I will say that I personally find that the ref lacks a bit of the feeling needed, and is usually a bit on the harsh side, booking slidetackles where the opponent runs into your player rather than the other way around.

Still, it's not really a gamebreaker at all, you just need to slide tackle when you know you can get ot the ball. For realism they should tone back the yellow card handout maybe 50%, and let the less severe 50% of tackles go with a verbal warning or such. Could be improved in the future, since right now it can feel like if you miss a slide tackle, it's yellow period, regardless of how badly you missed it.


Bla bla. You get the point.



Also, I've also not even seen, I think, the crab walking on all my matches so far. I must be playing differently from everyone else, because I'm sure I would have remembered my player suddenly walking rather than running normally.

[smeltzerinho]

Just play a long ball to your forward, happens all the time




*not ALL of the time

[Mikeeboy]

Originally Posted by Trance_Allstar

I've seen one isntance of a red card where the slidtackling player was basically lieing still on the ground, and he barely touched the opponent, who in turn barely even stumbled.

Still, that is from several matches, so I've not experienced it to be a big problem, although some people have played alot more than me or might have different playing styles so it might be more intrusive and noticeable.

I will say that I personally find that the ref lacks a bit of the feeling needed, and is usually a bit on the harsh side, booking slidetackles where the opponent runs into your player rather than the other way around.

Still, it's not really a gamebreaker at all, you just need to slide tackle when you know you can get ot the ball. For realism they should tone back the yellow card handout maybe 50%, and let the less severe 50% of tackles go with a verbal warning or such. Could be improved in the future, since right now it can feel like if you miss a slide tackle, it's yellow period, regardless of how badly you missed it.

Yeah the ones where the guy just trips over a leg already on the ground, is a bit naff but they'll never fix that in a patch, the AI needed there would need to be much more advanced.

I definitely do not want yellow cards toned down. Due to the fact nothing is carried forward between games (understandably), some people will just hack and slash all game if they could get away with it. That's affected games in the past.

[gcooley]

Originally Posted by Mikeeboy

Yeah the ones where the guy just trips over a leg already on the ground, is a bit naff but they'll never fix that in a patch, the AI needed there would need to be much more advanced.

I definitely do not want yellow cards toned down. Due to the fact nothing is carried forward between games (understandably), some people will just hack and slash all game if they could get away with it. That's affected games in the past.

Last year slide tackling was used as an offensive weapon.

Loved in the first couple of days seeing some of the hack and slashers loosing players like fruit flies!!

Every manager will tell his players the same thing...........stay on your feet!

[Trance_Allstar]

Originally Posted by gcooley

Last year slide tackling was used as an offensive weapon.

Loved in the first couple of days seeing some of the hack and slashers loosing players like fruit flies!!

Every manager will tell his players the same thing...........stay on your feet!

Ahh, I wasn't aware of the issues from 08. When you say weapon, do you mean that an attacker might let a defender deliberately take the ball, only to hack them down to "get rid" of a man, so to speak?

Yeah, it is true that online, with cards not staying from game to game and such, I can see why it would be a problem with to lenient referees, and them being on the harsher side would probably be better.

[gcooley]

Originally Posted by Trance_Allstar

Ahh, I wasn't aware of the issues from 08. When you say weapon, do you mean that an attacker might let a defender deliberately take the ball, only to hack them down to "get rid" of a man, so to speak?

Yeah, it is true that online, with cards not staying from game to game and such, I can see why it would be a problem with to lenient referees, and them being on the harsher side would probably be better.

No last year you could slide with pretty much impunity and when you are though on goal you would get taken out with little or no punishment.

If you play online in 09 you can still some people using this tactic but it doesnt work as they start losing players.

It was horrendous in some matches you would dance from defence to their goal and litterally had to dodge 10 sliding tackles.

This year the play is focused on playing the ball and anything else is liable for a card which is how it should be.

[aperfect_sonnet]

Originally Posted by GoTorontoFC

With Xbox360, the patch is downloaded and installed when you load up the game. Once it's installed, the game restarts.
I'm not sure if it's the same with PS3.

erm, i think there might have been a misunderstanding. i was actually meaning how to get the patch in the first place

presumably from the PSN? anyone who has a PS3 can enlighten me on this?
i'd really appreciate it. because apparently, i'm clueless about updating and stuff. thanks guys.

[gcooley]

Originally Posted by aperfect_sonnet

erm, i think there might have been a misunderstanding. i was actually meaning how to get the patch in the first place

presumably from the PSN? anyone who has a PS3 can enlighten me on this?
i'd really appreciate it. because apparently, i'm clueless about updating and stuff. thanks guys.

there is no patches yet. I think toronto has confused a firmware/similar update with a game patch.....

[v6villain]

Which one of you muppets from EA was responsible for testing this piece of lalalala before it hit the shops.

[gcooley]

Originally Posted by v6villain

Which one of you muppets from EA was responsible for testing this piece of lalalala before it hit the shops.

Probably the localised QA and platform teams......or was that a rethorical question that was supposed to be funny?

[v6villain]

Originally Posted by gcooley

Probably the localised QA and platform teams......or was that a rethorical question that was supposed to be funny?

No nothing funny meant by that statement. I can't understand how it was not noticed by EA the problem with forwards and defenders side stepping the ball.

[9797979]

Originally Posted by gcooley

some valid points, some not so valid. As for GTA.......did you actually enjoy doing the same thing over and over and over and over again in that game.....it looked pretty but lacked any substance. The online sucked albiet it was there first attempt.

As for fifa. Games development is not finite its an evolution. So sure somethings are worse than others but to be fair they dont deliberately try to make a bad game or buggy game. Its just life things get ommitted or arent quite as good as they could be.

Lets just see what they say in the coming days before we keep moaning about the same things over and over. They already said they are looking in to the feasibility of fixing or addressing these issues. Give them time to look in to it. Hell the games only been out a week.

your right m8 but i dont think the game should not have been released,with so many missing features in it and so many bugs come on just read the whole of this forum all full of complaints EA should have just taken there time instead making a game that was more or less pointless and flustraiting to play i mean i have found myself playing tornament mode against the computer completely pointless just so i can make transfers and edit kit numbers on main menue b4 i start

[gcooley]

Originally Posted by 9797979

your right m8 but i dont think the game should not have been released,with so many missing features in it and so many bugs come on just read the whole of this forum all full of complaints EA should have just taken there time instead making a game that was more or less pointless and flustraiting to play i mean i have found myself playing tornament mode against the computer completely pointless just so i can make transfers and edit kit numbers on main menue b4 i start

There arent as many issues though.

There is a random occurance of ball trapping on through balls.
There dont appear to any issues with MM just features not included.
Possible networking issues but thats a tough one as it isnt happening to most people.
Some texture glitches and online player models not loading.

There are some people compaining about the way some rules are interpreted but other than that for the amount of new features, AI, animations, live season etc I would say that its relatively bug free. Not perfect but defintately stable and playable

[gclarke07]

Originally Posted by EA_MikeTakla

Did you know one of our gameplay Producers used to play for the Jamaican national football team? He's pretty annoying on the football pitch at work

Yeah, I watched a "making of FIFA" video on the game's official site and heard some banter with the guy you speak of.

Tell him big up and respect for this FIFA game - is pure bashment - It cya nice without a Jamaican a spice it up rasta! <----- He will know what I mean Also, I think he's an Arsenal fan as well so him done know how football must play.