Ronaldo's overall omg

[ForzaSSCNapoli]

Originally Posted by Messi10

"I'm guessing ronaldo will be overrated again. His dribbling will be the best in the game when he's not among the best in the world. He uses his pace and power to pass players, not his dribbling. btw novelty step overs do not constitute dribbling. Im not for a second saying he is a poor dribbler, but nowhere near messi, kaka or ronaldinho.

His finishing will also be fantastic. Ok 42 goals would suggest that hes a great finisher. However, the fact is ronaldo had 255 shots last season, leaving him with a terrible goals/shot ratio compared to most in the premiership. 171 of those shots came in the prem, where he scored 31-34 goals? just because he shoots alot should not mean hes a good finisher.

I garuntee someone like ruud v.n would have twice as good a ratio, a truely great finisher.

Also, free kicks....How many does he kick straight inot the wall?? He's like roberto carlos, 1 or 2 screamers every 5 years..Hes nowhere near the quality of juninho or nakamura, but garunteed he'll be among the best in the game again.

Ronaldos strengths should come with his pace, strength, heading, stamina long shots(shot power more than accuracy).

But no doubt ronaldo will be unstopable yet again, with having near perfect everything.

sigh. "


Thats a qoute i stick by from my ownthread about the same thing. 41 goals from 255 shots is not as impressive.

My original post: Ronaldo overrated again??

Opta stats : Opta Stats for the EPL season 2007-08 « About all the football that I get to watch and about some I dont

Unstoppable again? I don't have any problems in 08 when I play someone using MU, actually, it's almost too easy when they try to use him TOO MUCH. I think it's fun either way, doesn't anyone like a challenge anymore?

[Ledz]

Originally Posted by ant0n

I wonder what Berbatov will be?

I wrote his overall attribute down

[ant0n]

Originally Posted by ForzaSSCNapoli

Sad if true. I don't even know what I said was wrong...I know MU's defense were a driving force last year as well, but Ronaldo was amazing.

Yeah true. The very reasons why our goal difference was so high.

[2E-Manutd]

u said ronaldo carried us if u watch ronaldos goals see how many rooney set up

and if it want for our defence we would of conceded quite a few

[ForzaSSCNapoli]

It must also be noted that Ronaldo IS NOT a striker per se, making his achievements last season on the offensive end much more impressive IMO. As I recall, when he started playing for Sporting, wasn't he more of a defensive player?

[ForzaSSCNapoli]

Originally Posted by 2E-Manutd

u said ronaldo carried us if u watch ronaldos goals see how many rooney set up

and if it want for our defence we would of conceded quite a few

Yes, I know this. But 40 some odd goals in all competitions is still a HUGE contributing factor. You can't have assists without goals!

[2E-Manutd]

Originally Posted by ForzaSSCNapoli

Unstoppable again? I don't have any problems in 08 when I play someone using MU, actually, it's almost too easy when they try to use him TOO MUCH. I think it's fun either way, doesn't anyone like a challenge anymore?

hes right he want unstoppable my freind was always getting mad when he played with man u cause u just hold back and dont go in for a tackle

[RampantReed]

Originally Posted by ant0n

what's your point? He's still the best in the world. Nothing your boy Messis can even come close to.

not true and that's the kind of comment that stinks of fanboyism b2b not being very clued up.

They are the 2 best attacking players in the world and ronaldo probably edges it based on his amazing form last season and the one before but to say messi doesn't come close to him is laughable and im sure ronaldo would laugh in your face as well if you told him that.

when man united played barca messi completely outshone ronaldo during both matches, im not saying that makes him a better player but he is certainly very close to ronaldo in terms of talent, lots would argue he is better.

[ant0n]

Originally Posted by 2E-Manutd

u said ronaldo carried us if u watch ronaldos goals see how many rooney set up

and if it want for our defence we would of conceded quite a few he said that.

Rooney was shocking last season. He is living in Ronaldo's shadow.

[Messi10]

Originally Posted by ant0n

what's your point? He's still the best in the world. Nothing your boy Messis can even come close to.

My point is ronaldo is playing for a quality side who make him look a lot better than he is, whereas messi is playing for a poor side and still looking world class. 42 goals is great but 7 assists..as a supposed "winger". Thats ****e. Messi more than doubled that in half the amount of games and sored 23 goals in half the games.

Does that fact that many are still considering messi as competition to ronaldo for world player of the year despite ronaldos goals and despite messi being out injured for 2 months not tell you something about the quality difference?

BTW Messi has done everything ronaldo has done plus more honours wise, and he is 2 years younger.

We will see at the world cup 2010 who shines and who dissapears. you know, the the biggest footall tournement in the world. No derby countys or west broms in that competition. just decent teams. But given ronaldos performance trak record in the big games against half decent opposition....he should be just fine eh?

[2E-Manutd]

Originally Posted by ant0n

Rooney was shocking last season. He is living in Ronaldo's shadow.

because he gives ronaldo his goals yhh

[ant0n]

Originally Posted by RampantReed

not true and that's the kind of comment that stinks of fanboyism b2b not being very clued up.

They are the 2 best attacking players in the world and ronaldo probably edges it based on his amazing form last season and the one before but to say messi doesn't come close to him is laughable and im sure ronaldo would laugh in your face as well if you told him that.

when man united played barca messi completely outshone ronaldo during both matches, im not saying that makes him a better player but he is certainly very close to ronaldo in terms of talent, lots would argue he is better.

In a span of a season Messi did nothing compared to Ronaldo which is why he will win WPOY. Watching Messi this year he has been absent in the Barca attack. Nothing goes through him every thing goes through Xavi and Iniesta. That number 10 shirt is too big for him.

[ant0n]

Originally Posted by 2E-Manutd

because he gives ronaldo his goals yhh

how many assists did he get?

[ForzaSSCNapoli]

Originally Posted by 2E-Manutd

hes right he want unstoppable my freind was always getting mad when he played with man u cause u just hold back and dont go in for a tackle

I have no clue what you're saying here, but ok. lol

[RampantReed]

Originally Posted by ant0n

In a span of a season Messi did nothing compared to Ronaldo which is why he will win WPOY. Watching Messi this year he has been absent in the Barca attack. Nothing goes through him every thing goes through Xavi and Iniesta. That number 10 shirt is too big for him.

were only 5 games into the season so far, way too early to be making any kind of judgements.

and the point is you said he's not even in the same class as him, most people would ridicule you for a quote like that and no offense but i think people diego maradona are probably more qualified to judge a players ability than you are.

[joshbotelho1994]

wow, van der star is not an 85, thats *** just because his shirt says man utd on it.........

[Messi10]

Originally Posted by ant0n

In a span of a season Messi did nothing compared to Ronaldo which is why he will win WPOY. Watching Messi this year he has been absent in the Barca attack. Nothing goes through him every thing goes through Xavi and Iniesta. That number 10 shirt is too big for him.

xavi sits in the middle of the park you lalala. Of course everything goes through him, that is of course unless you paly like wimbeldon of old and just hoof it up to a big no.9

Watching messi this season? 4 goals in 4 games so far and 3 assists? not bad considering 'nothing goes through him'. oh and thats him almost equaled ronaldos assits from the whole of last season.

[2E-Manutd]

he got 13 assists

[Messi10]

Originally Posted by 2E-Manutd

he got 13 assists

In the EPL league???

[2E-Manutd]

Originally Posted by joshbotelho1994

wow, van der star is not an 85, thats *** just because his shirt says man utd on it.........

thats becuase he saved a winnin penalty in a champions league final

arsenal keeper should try it 1 day

either that or pick the ball out his next from a 30 yarder from giovani

[Messi10]

Season before last mate....

6 last season in league. 7 overall

Cristiano Ronaldo

[2E-Manutd]

Originally Posted by Messi10

In the EPL league???

no idea but he got 13 assists last season

[Jimmyboy34]

Originally Posted by KrisCyp

If you'd been at old trafford on saturday you'd disagree
he was just a stroppy little kid who looked like he didnt wanna be there

Isnt this guy above Ea's dream but the addidas live season then!! based on last year you loser Ronaldo well deserves 91

[Nathan18]

Originally Posted by Messi10

My point is ronaldo is playing for a quality side who make him look a lot better than he is, whereas messi is playing for a poor side and still looking world class. 42 goals is great but 7 assists..as a supposed "winger". Thats ****e. Messi more than doubled that in half the amount of games and sored 23 goals in half the games.

23 goals? Messi scored 16 goals in 40 appearances. That's according to Wikipedia. Ronaldo had 42 goals in 49 appearances. They aren't even close, in terms of goals. Ronaldo also would have had quite a few more assists, if it wasn't for poor finishing on Rooney's & Tevez's behalf.

[2E-Manutd]

Originally Posted by Messi10

Season before last mate....

6 last season in league. 7 overall

Cristiano Ronaldo

im talking about rooney