Why is the gameplay not next-gen?

[manutdfan145]

I've been reading a few reviews from people who've played the demo on Xbox 360 and it looks like they're describing a completely different game to the PC version.

[TavanoPly]

the gameplay is fantastic...

[BLaZiNgSPEED]

The gameplay is as good as Next Generation
Well if not as a whole its a wonderful game and will be very fun to play both online and offline. Tricks are easier to make then ever before! I managed to do the Ronaldinhos tricks quite easily with less effort, thats a bug improvement, that changes the gameplay in some ways.

[wakakaka46]

the gameplay movement still like robots.. if play for longer time it feel like fifa08..trust me..

[miharuhk]

Yes , very fantastic gameplay. I can't believe the rubbish robotic movement still here

[Rhipz]

Originally Posted by BLaZiNgSPEED

The gameplay is as good as Next Generation
Well if not as a whole its a wonderful game and will be very fun to play both online and offline. Tricks are easier to make then ever before! I managed to do the Ronaldinhos tricks quite easily with less effort, thats a bug improvement, that changes the gameplay in some ways.

Are you ****ing blind?

THE GAMEPLAY IS NOT AS GOOD AS NEXT GENERATION. OMD HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT

[Jahaanpana]

Define next gen gameplay , Rhipz , you piece of s***

[Anubis2612]

Originally Posted by BLaZiNgSPEED

The gameplay is as good as Next Generation
Well if not as a whole its a wonderful game and will be very fun to play both online and offline. Tricks are easier to make then ever before! I managed to do the Ronaldinhos tricks quite easily with less effort, thats a bug improvement, that changes the gameplay in some ways.

omg...you must be joking! only a 15 years old kid would say that!

[OVRLOAD]

the gameplay for fifa 09 pc is better than fifa 08 becuase of new tricks looks more realistic than fifa 08 and who care what xbox 360 and ps3 are like pc overal lfor online games is better so **** xbox 360 and ps3 and be grateful fifa 09 isn't like fifa 06-08

[EAUK_Phenom]

[Please read my break-down of this post (click here) - Phenom]

The PC version of FIFA 09 is different to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions because of the CPU processing power required for the architecture of the game.

The majority of gamer's PC's do not have enough CPU processing power for this architecture, so FIFA09 on PC has been built to have the best possible graphics and gameplay engine while still being accessible to as many fans of the game as possible. If the architecture was identical to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions, FIFA09 on PC would only be accessible to 1-3% of the PC systems on the market.

Having said that, FIFA09 on PC delivers a very deep gameplay engine, along with leading-edge visuals.

Phenom

[PlayFifajo]

Originally Posted by EAUK_Phenom

The PC version of FIFA 09 is different to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions because of the CPU processing power required for the architecture of the game.

The majority of gamer's PC's do not have enough CPU processing power for this architecture, so FIFA09 on PC has been built to have the best possible graphics and gameplay engine while still being accessible to as many fans of the game as possible. If the architecture was identical to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions, FIFA09 on PC would only be accessible to 1-3% of the PC systems on the market.

Having said that, FIFA09 on PC delivers a very deep gameplay engine, along with leading-edge visuals.

Phenom

People who don't have good CPU's are NOT called gamers , they don't buy the game , they only download from torrents and other sources, and play games occasionaly.

Originally Posted by Jahaanpana

Define next gen gameplay , Rhipz , you piece of s***

You don't know what you talk . Look at FIFA 09 next gen version on ps3 .

[miharuhk]

Originally Posted by EAUK_Phenom

The PC version of FIFA 09 is different to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions because of the CPU processing power required for the architecture of the game.

The majority of gamer's PC's do not have enough CPU processing power for this architecture, so FIFA09 on PC has been built to have the best possible graphics and gameplay engine while still being accessible to as many fans of the game as possible. If the architecture was identical to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions, FIFA09 on PC would only be accessible to 1-3% of the PC systems on the market.

Having said that, FIFA09 on PC delivers a very deep gameplay engine, along with leading-edge visuals.

Phenom

Please go to see gear of war , bioshock , Call of duty 4 , mass effect , need for speed, grid and many many other NG games
All of them run in nowadays PC definitely better than my xbox360
please don't continuously fool us. Not all the PC gamer is stupid

[miharuhk]

Call of duty 4 system requirement:

System Requirements
Minimum Recommended Microsoft Windows Operating System Windows XP with Service Pack 2 or Windows Vista CPU Intel Pentium 4 2.4 GHz or AMD Athlon 64 2800+ processor 2.4 GHz dual-core Memory 512 MB (768 MB for Vista) 1024 MB RAM (2048 MB for Vista) Hard Drive Space 8 GB of free space Graphics Hardware Nvidia GeForce 6600 or ATI Radeon 9800 Pro Nvidia GeForce 7800 or ATI Radeon X1800:[20] Sound Hardware 100% DirectX 9.0c compliant card Sound Blaster X-Fi (Optimized for EAX ADVANCED HD 4.0/5.0 compatible cards)

Race Driver: GRID System Requirements

Minimum Specifications

• Windows XP/Vista. (If running Windows Vista, SP1 is recommended)
• DirectX 9.0c
• Pentium 4 @ 3.0GHz or Athlon 64 3000+
• 1GB RAM.
• Graphics Card: GeForce 6800 / Radeon X1300 or above
• DirectX Compatible Sound Card
• Dual Layer Compatible DVD-ROM Drive
• 12.5 GB Hard Drive Space

Recommended Specifications

• Windows XP/Vista. (If running Windows Vista, SP1 is recommended)
• DirectX 9.0c
• Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.66Ghz or Athlon X2 3800+
• 2GB RAM.
• Graphics Card: GeForce 8800 or Radeon X1950
• Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Sound Card.
• Dual Layer Compatible DVD-ROM Drive
• 12.5 GB Hard Drive Space

[dranzergiggs]

Phenom, dont think of us as the people EA has fooled yet again. Miharuhk is absolutely right, they names he has mentioned are the best sellers of last year. Hear that ?? LAST YEAR !!!. We thought EA would do something after getting so many complains from us, the hardcore fans of FIFA but yet again we have been disappointed.

We entered into an era of dual core processors 2 years ago. Now almost every 2nd computer is a dual core. When you refer to the term "gamers", kindly understand that we are the people have the most updated and high end rigs because we want to play games like CRYSIS on the highest detail.

You talk about better visuals when you have only used Shader Model 2.0 while a mediocre gaming card these days even has Shadel Model 4.0.

Kindly do not think of us as fools. The gameplay is a mixture of 07 and 08, only slowed down to make a little more realistic.

PES is gonna beat the crap out of FIFA on pc yet again.

FIFA 09 Pc doesnt even stand up against the 08 of 360 and PS3.

[GDM184]

Originally Posted by Anubis2612

omg...you must be joking! only a 15 years old kid would say that!

I'm 14 years old and i don't say that.

[GDM184]

Originally Posted by EAUK_Phenom

The PC version of FIFA 09 is different to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions because of the CPU processing power required for the architecture of the game.

The majority of gamer's PC's do not have enough CPU processing power for this architecture, so FIFA09 on PC has been built to have the best possible graphics and gameplay engine while still being accessible to as many fans of the game as possible. If the architecture was identical to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions, FIFA09 on PC would only be accessible to 1-3% of the PC systems on the market.

Having said that, FIFA09 on PC delivers a very deep gameplay engine, along with leading-edge visuals.

Phenom

Please, stop this. Don't lie anymore. I supply you.
The 1-3% of pc's CANT support NG version of fifa. If it's as you said, assassin's creed, crysis, call of duty 4... They have a graphic equal if not superior to fifa 09, but a lot of people bought 'em. So why you keep lying? WHY ???
FIFA 09 GAMEPLAY IT'S EQUAL TO 08!!! WHY DO YOU NEGATE THE EVIDENCE!???
YOU CONTINUE SAYING THAT CONSOLES PROCESSOR IS MORE POWERFUL!?! WE AREN'T A BUNCH OF 3 YEARS OLD CHILDS!! WE KNOW THAT PCs ARE MORE POWERFUL!!!! PC COSTS A LOT MORE THAN NG CONSOLES!!!!! SO IS A LOT MORE POWERFUL!! XBOX360 AND PS3 CAN HAVE A 12 Ghz PROCESSOR? NO! PS3 HAS 5Ghz PROCESSOR! EVEN A DUAL CORE CAN BE EQUAL TO THAT!
I say another time, stop lying.
(Capital letters mean shouting)

[Priend]

Originally Posted by EAUK_Phenom

The PC version of FIFA 09 is different to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions because of the CPU processing power required for the architecture of the game.

The majority of gamer's PC's do not have enough CPU processing power for this architecture, so FIFA09 on PC has been built to have the best possible graphics and gameplay engine while still being accessible to as many fans of the game as possible. If the architecture was identical to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions, FIFA09 on PC would only be accessible to 1-3% of the PC systems on the market.

Having said that, FIFA09 on PC delivers a very deep gameplay engine, along with leading-edge visuals.

Phenom

It would be very good for Fifa 2010 if they ported full next gen graphics into the game and also had an option for switchable ai from current gen to next gen. I prefer the pc gameplay to the next gen version at the moment as it feels more fluid and not as slow as it feels in console versions. However it would be great if they just ported it into Fifa 2010 and gave users the option to see if they could run it on their processor. What about an application before fifa 2010 starts being made, that tests the pc users processors to see if they are powerful enough and then submits the results. I reckon it won't even use 45% of my processor usage, the current gen version only uses 15%. How much more processor requirements are needed compared to the current gen to next gen. Does it require more than 3 times the cpu power. My processor can handle 9-10 times the current gen engine so if its more than that then let me know, even though my processor is not the fastest.

I remember developers complaining about the release of the xbox 360 and ps3 processors being too slow and that a pentium d would have been better than either of one used in the next gen consoles. If this is the case then a a 1.6ghz e2140 pentium dual core that costs £20-30 which is probably faster than the faster pentium d at 3.6ghz, as pentium dual core is based on coroe (core 2 duo) architecture, then all the 1-3% will need is a £30 processor to be capable of running next gen gameplay. Even my slowest laptop is faster than the pentium dual core with a mobile t7100 1.8ghz core 2 duo so it should be able to run it. If an xbox 360 can run it with a processor based from the powerpc mac g5 then a modern day processor should run it easily.

[GDM184]

Originally Posted by Priend

It would be very good for Fifa 2010 if they ported full next gen graphics into the game and also had an option for switchable ai from current gen to next gen. I prefer the pc gameplay to the next gen version at the momment as it feels more fluid and not as slow as it feels in console versions. However it would be great if they just ported it into Fifa 2010 and gave users the option to see if they could run it on their processor. What about an application before fifa 2010 starts being made, that tests the pc users processors to see if they are powerful enough and then submits the results. I reckon it won't even use 45% of my processor usage, the current gen version only uses 15%. How much more processor requirements are needed compared to the current gen to next gen. Does it require more than 3 times the cpu power. My processor can handle 9-10 times the current gen engine so if its more than that then let me know, even though my processor is not the fastest.

I remember developers complaining about the release of the xbox 360 and ps3 processors being too slow and that a pentium d would have been better than either of one used in the next gen consoles. If this is the case then a a 1.6ghz e2140 pentium dual core that costs £20-30 which is probably faster than the faster pentium d at 3.6ghz, as pentium dual core is based on coroe (core 2 duo) architecture, then all the 1-3% will need is a £30 processor to be capable of running next gen gameplay. Even my slowest laptop is faster than the pentium dual core with a mobile t7100 1.8ghz core 2 duo so it should be able to run it. If an xbox 360 can run it with a processor based from the powerpc mac g5 then a modern day processor should run it easily.

Fully agree.

[ReadingFC]

They tell us it's a matter of opinion. I guess they are right because i haven't played the game yet but treading this thread everyone has their own opinion. Some say the gameplay is great and others say it rubbish compared to next gen. I can't wait until the demo downloads so i cantry it

[Priend]

Finally Intel is the biggest processor manufacturer with the most advanced technologies. So ea are basically trying to say a 2004 developed 90nm IBM powerpc triple core is as fast as my 45nm 2008 quad core made by Intel, dream on. IBM powerpc processors are renowned for not living up to expectations, hence why Apple moved to Intel core 2 duo/quad. The powerpc in the g5 was being hyped by IBM to beat the fastest pentiums and athlons out at the time yet which supposed to beat everything got beaten by the majority of budget athlons and pentiums out, no wonder why Apple switched. They probably couldn't afford to get embarrased any longer of why their macs were so slow compared to windows computers although the os was not the issue just the over hyped slow hardware. I hope the ps4 and the new xbox will move on to intel processors as well as better graphics cards as no wonder why most games can't run at 1280*720 at 30fps on the ps3.

EA like IBM are over hyping the consoles outdated processors saying 3-4 year old IBM's processors are faster than the best offerings of the biggest processor manufacturer intel. Intel are starting to make their first major supercomputer now which will overtake the IBM's fastest number 1 supercomputer by 2012 and using about 280 000 processors less. No wonder why Nasa went with Intel. IBM have been making supercomputers for ages yet they are going to get overtaken by newcomers intel very quickly by the use of the current xeon quad cores and soon xeon nehalem quad cores.

Now ea most people who play the latest games on pc have a cpu made after 2006 which is two years newer than the next gen consoles cpus. Most people who play crysis don't use slow p4s, but core 2 duo or above with good mid range graphics cards that are over 3x times more powerful than say a ps3 graphics card.

Now you tell me why we can't run next gen?
I guess you will say that the processors in the console are designed to run games while Intel/AMD processors are for general pc tasks and not dedicated gaming cpus.
So why is it then the actual game developers complain about developing games for consoles as they feel limited in what performance they can achieve out of it after coding for pc games. The only people in EA who think it won't run are the people who represent EA publically in public relations. However if you ask the actual developers/coders they will say to you the majority of pc gamers computers can run next gen gameplay and graphics with ease.

[BLaZiNgSPEED]

I also agree with those statements about PC being more powerful. Although I am so impressed with FIFA 09, infact I am not that impressed because I was actually surprised! I didn't know that the lazy developers will suddenly make that step forward on the PC! Many years its been the same.
But I disagree with PC not being equalled to the NG consoles. Because if you compare the graphics of Crysis, Call of Duty 4 with FIFA 09 they're still more superior.
Some of the things such as curling the ball, new commentary with new commentators and a much different gameplay will do it. Or add step by step elements of NG consoles gameplay into the PC and see how it goes. Like 3 or 4 features of NG into PC in FIFA 2010, 2011 another 3, 4 that increases and eventually it will become fully next generation

[Rhipz]

Arrrgh People annoy me so much. I disregard that comment made by jahanpana or something, yes he's probably an aggravated 8 year old.

Why does the community rep say, it will be accessible to 1-3 % of the market. What you just said is; We r gona not keer bout nexgen fifa on pc coz like evn doe 360 haz lessa powr den stndrd pc 91-97 parcent pc's are stil 5 yr old n we wont as muhc moniz az posibul so we gona maik out we chnge fingz eech yr n keep 2005 gmeplaiz. Have you looked around the market you speak of nowadays? Pc's are being sold with cpu's more powerful than EA's beloved consoles, yes Fifa requires a great deal of CPU power than other games, but the in GPU-CPU ratio GPU does and always will win. Another thing, I can guarantee, GTA IV requires so much more CPU power than Fifa. Yet it arrives on PC's in November, what does that say about money hungry EA?

I wonder why EA can't admit it, Fifa 09 on the PC is a flop. No amount of graphical updates, 3d grass and 'widgets' (***....) will make the gameplay better.

[MUFC_Rocks]

1-3 % I somehow doubt that, the fact of the matter is that EA don't give a damn about PC Gamer. Why is Crysis only made for PC? Because that's the only machine that will run the game. A gaming PC is well better than any next gen console. Also the most important factor in determining how well your PC will run is the graphics card. If you have an GeForce 8600GT or more and around 1GB or RAM and a goodish CPU then you should be able to run FIFA 09 without many problems.

[Priend]

If ea make the players move more than 8 directions then it would look better and if there is fully next graphics then fifa 2010 will be good. I don't mind the fact that there is no "next gen" gameplay in the pc version as I prefer the pc version but I am annoyed about the fact that ea are insulting pc owners by saying our processors are not fast enough. Core 2 duo and better processors are more common and it is starting to become the norm. I think there is more people than 1-3% who have dual core processors or greater.

[AlaaEG88]

You know... I was thinking about buying FIFA this year just to enjoy the graphics and play online. After this EA comment, I am probably going to ignore this version! :s