Why is the gameplay not next-gen?

[Priend]

Just played fifa 09 on ps3. I preferred pc version for gameplay but 09 on next gen has convinced me that fifa 2010 has to be fully next gen. The gameplay is very fluid and fast like the pc and feels a lot more realistic. Graphics are way better as well, the grass on the next gen version is so much better. I want to experience the graphics and gameplay on pc as well now. Fifa 09 PC is good, Fifa 09 Next gen is just out of this world compared to pc version.

[SoccerPC]

Originally Posted by EAUK_Phenom

The PC version of FIFA 09 is different to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions because of the CPU processing power required for the architecture of the game.

The majority of gamer's PC's do not have enough CPU processing power for this architecture, so FIFA09 on PC has been built to have the best possible graphics and gameplay engine while still being accessible to as many fans of the game as possible. If the architecture was identical to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions, FIFA09 on PC would only be accessible to 1-3% of the PC systems on the market.

Having said that, FIFA09 on PC delivers a very deep gameplay engine, along with leading-edge visuals.

Phenom

what an outragious joke towards the PC gamers.You want a typist play fifa on his typing celeron pc ? go get a life dude , this is the biggest joke i ever heard . look at gear of war , bioshock , Call of duty 4 , mass effect , need for speed, grid taht runs perfectly on most pc. regarding high end pc reqs of crysis , people will always be buying crysis when they get a new graphics card or a new pc. so for long term crysis will be a commercially viable product as well.

Just tell the truth that we dont want to make a next gen fifa for pc because we only care about money.even if its by depriving millions of ligitimate uses .This is totally unfair.
meanwhile PES 209 is comming with a bang with True next gen graphics and gameplay on pc with champions league license. im sure fifa will be the looser this years with those pure robotic player movements and animations

[iwaitforfifa10]

Originally Posted by SoccerPC

what an outragious joke towards the PC gamers.You want a typist play fifa on his typing celeron pc ? go get a life dude , this is the biggest joke i ever heard . look at gear of war , bioshock , Call of duty 4 , mass effect , need for speed, grid taht runs perfectly on most pc. regarding high end pc reqs of crysis , people will always be buying crysis when they get a new graphics card or a new pc. so for long term crysis will be a commercially viable product as well.

Just tell the truth that we dont want to make a next gen fifa for pc because we only care about money.even if its by depriving millions of ligitimate uses .This is totally unfair.
meanwhile PES 209 is comming with a bang with True next gen graphics and gameplay on pc with champions league license. im sure fifa will be the looser this years with those pure robotic player movements and animations

sad but true

[Cikyu13]

because we gamers are stupid and buy the same game again....and again...and again....

[Spartan1948]

why don't you just download it from the internet?.... from the torrent

[Nefertari]

I agree with everything that has been said in this thread APART from the PC gameplay being ebtter than NG.

...oh and the community rep's atrocious political spin...no offence to him personally because I know those aren't his words...but still, shame on him for posting that on a PC forum...we're not console users who are easily fooled, we are true gamers...we know our stuff, at least most of us do...we are your target demographic...not the 40 year old businessman with 2.8 children who has time to play once a week.

[Priend]

Originally Posted by Nefertari

I agree with everything that has been said in this thread APART from the PC gameplay being ebtter than NG.

...oh and the community rep's atrocious political spin...no offence to him personally because I know those aren't his words...but still, shame on him for posting that on a PC forum...we're not console users who are easily fooled, we are true gamers...we know our stuff, at least most of us do...we are your target demographic...not the 40 year old businessman with 2.8 children who has time to play once a week.

I don't think the PC gameplays better anymore in terms of speed as fifa 09 next gen is a lot more fluid than 08. However fifa 09 pc is a step in the right direction. The question is how many more steps will there be needed for the game to be fully next gen so I can play the game the way its meant to be played .

Oh well at least Fifa 09 pc is unique like the Wii platform. Xbox 360 and PS3 are just generalized as one platform .

[BLaZiNgSPEED]

Aha, now I see why Crysis is better on PC!!! Because there is no PS3/Xbox 360 version of Crysis thats why they made a wonderfully graphically game like Crysis on PC!

I guess if FIFA is removed from the NG Consoles, then EA will produce a wonderful NG FIFA game on PC.
Because people bought NG consoles specially to play games thats why EA gave more respect to them. PC gamers are desrespected because a PC is not regarded as a gaming machine. Which I disagree, a PC is better than a console but EA decide to make the PC version poorly.

The 3D grass on FIFA 09 is a total lie by Hossack.
Theres only 3d grass near the goal kick area & near corner flags. Everywhere else has absolutely no 3D grass! Thats an absolute betray! Yes I like the graphics, but still the 3d grass is very limited and are only seen on particular camera views and cutscenes.

[Nefertari]

All Konami has to do is make a full NG PES game graphics and AI wise...you just watch how quickly NG Fifa comes out on the PC, with some atrocious lie about how they have some miracle coding that allowed them to finally bless us with NG.

And that miracle coding is called...competition. Konami have such a huge chance to grab a massive chunk of the PC market...but I fear they'll mess it up

[Priend]

The funny thing about 3d grass is that it does not look realistic at all. Certainly an improvement from fifa 08 pc but if you compare the 3d grass to the next gen 09 demo, you will notice there is a day and night difference. I couldn't believe all the hype given about the 3d grass by ea yet it looks rubbish compared to the next gen graphics engine.

It would be good if pes 2009 has a huge improvement in graphics. It will give good competition. They are already running the next gen ai on the pc since 2008 I think.

Its funny how ea think that the next gen version is better than pes by saying the processor power needed for it is too great for pcs but can run on low end consoles cpus. So thats like saying I can run it on lalalala but not on good hardware. PES 2008 developers however put the full next gen version on pc, not only because it saves cost of developing as one ai over more platforms is better and same for the graphics engine. Anyway everyone knows that PES 2008 runs a lot better on PC than say a PS3, I own the game on both and can say the ps3 runs jittery at 1280*720 with serious lag as it can't handle the game engine/ graphics engine while my pc runs it on 1280*800 @60fps and also at 1680*1050 @ 60fps with better graphics and more fluid gameplay, not broken up like on the ps3. Either the Fifa PC team haven't got a clue about the fact pcs processors are faster or they still are using 1.6ghz p4s and celerons for game development which are just slightly slower than the consoles processors. The PS3 cell has only 1 dedicated core while my quad core has 4 dedicated cores. I reckon one of my cores is greater than the complete cell processor with all its spes in use.

[redevilO7]

i had an old pc which could run call of duty 4 smoothly, so i dont see why fifa 09 in next gen cant... cmon ea.... PC's are much powerful than consoles. its true that maybe a guy who is having an old P4 with some crappy ram and outdated gpu cant run the game but he know that he must upgrade his machine to be up-to-date with the latest tech. So u people just make fifa 2010 next gen. im sure there will be people who willbuy this game and yes, majority of those humans who have lame cpu's play they pirated version

[Stoyanis]

Originally Posted by dranzergiggs

Phenom, dont think of us as the people EA has fooled yet again. Miharuhk is absolutely right, they names he has mentioned are the best sellers of last year. Hear that ?? LAST YEAR !!!. We thought EA would do something after getting so many complains from us, the hardcore fans of FIFA but yet again we have been disappointed.

We entered into an era of dual core processors 2 years ago. Now almost every 2nd computer is a dual core. When you refer to the term "gamers", kindly understand that we are the people have the most updated and high end rigs because we want to play games like CRYSIS on the highest detail.

You talk about better visuals when you have only used Shader Model 2.0 while a mediocre gaming card these days even has Shadel Model 4.0.

Kindly do not think of us as fools. The gameplay is a mixture of 07 and 08, only slowed down to make a little more realistic.

PES is gonna beat the lalalala out of FIFA on pc yet again.

FIFA 09 Pc doesnt even stand up against the 08 of 360 and PS3.

signed

[Anubis2612]

fifa 09 is lalalala!! and EA must think that we, PC gamers, are all stupid!

[adamsmith1903]

Originally Posted by EAUK_Phenom

The PC version of FIFA 09 is different to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions because of the CPU processing power required for the architecture of the game.

The majority of gamer's PC's do not have enough CPU processing power for this architecture, so FIFA09 on PC has been built to have the best possible graphics and gameplay engine while still being accessible to as many fans of the game as possible. If the architecture was identical to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions, FIFA09 on PC would only be accessible to 1-3% of the PC systems on the market.

Having said that, FIFA09 on PC delivers a very deep gameplay engine, along with leading-edge visuals.

Phenom

LOL. Are you serious?

EA's excuses are getting worse every year. Pathetic.

[GDM184]

I think now EA will shut up, at least on this topic.

[EAUK_Phenom]

Before I go on, I'd like to point out that Graphics power and CPU power are two very different technical parameters, and it's because of the CPU power that FIFA09 on PC can not (and does not) have the same architecture as the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions. The Graphics are a separate matter, and FIFA09 on PC has leading-edge graphics.

With that said, please allow me to further explain what I said earlier in this thread, as I believe that some of you may have misunderstood;

Originally Posted by EAUK_Phenom

The PC version of FIFA 09 is different to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions because of the CPU processing power required for the architecture of the game.

The majority of gamers PC system's do not have enough CPU processing power[1] for this architecture[2], so FIFA09 on PC has been built to have the best possible graphics and gameplay engine while still being accessible to as many fans of the game as possible[3]. If the architecture was identical to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions, FIFA09 on PC would only be accessible to 1-3% of the PC systems on the market.[4]

Having said that, FIFA09 on PC delivers a very deep gameplay engine, along with leading-edge visuals.

[1] I am aware that some PC systems are as capable as the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 (and that some are even more capable than them), but the majority of PC systems aren't (see [4]).

[2] The fact that a PC system can run Gears of War, Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, etc. is irrelevant: the gameplay architecture of FIFA09 can not be compared to games of a different genre, and it is a fact that the majority of PC systems do not have enough CPU processing power for FIFA09 on PC to be the same as the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions.

[3] This means that, although some of your PC's may be able to 'handle' a better gameplay architecture, only 1-3% of PC systems on the market could 'handle' the same gameplay architecture as FIFA09 on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 (see [4]).

[4] "If the architecture was identical to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions, FIFA09 on PC would only be accessible to 1-3% of the PC systems on the market." That is a fact.

However, because the PC continues to benefit from constant graphics and performance increases (and always will), the FIFA series on the PC will continue to improve each year, and it's architecture will, in time, 'surpass/exceed' the Xbox 360 and the PlayStation 3 versions.
I didn't say that FIFA 2010 on PC will (or won't) be the same as the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions of the game (because I do not know whether it will (or won't) be, at this moment in time).


Thank you for the constructive feedback that most of you have provided on this subject, so far.

Phenom

[iwaitforfifa10]

Originally Posted by EAUK_Phenom

Before I go on, I'd like to point out that Graphics power and CPU power are two very different technical parameters, and it's because of the CPU power that FIFA09 on PC can not (and does not) have the same architecture as the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions. The Graphics are a separate matter, and FIFA09 on PC has leading-edge graphics.

With that said, please allow me to further explain what I said earlier in this thread, as I believe that some of you may have misunderstood;



[1] I am aware that some PC systems are as capable as the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 (and that some are even more capable than them), but the majority of PC systems aren't (see [4]).

[2] The fact that a PC system can run Gears of War, Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, etc. is irrelevant: the gameplay architecture of FIFA09 can not be compared to games of a different genre, and it is a fact that the majority of PC systems do not have enough CPU processing power for FIFA09 on PC to be the same as the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions.

[3] This means that, although some of your PC's may be able to 'handle' a better gameplay architecture, only 1-3% of PC systems on the market could 'handle' the same gameplay architecture that FIFA09 on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 have (see [4]).

[4] "If the architecture was identical to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions, FIFA09 on PC would only be accessible to 1-3% of the PC systems on the market." That is a fact.

However, because the PC continues to benefit from constant graphics and performance increases (and always will), the FIFA series on the PC will continue to improve each year, and it's architecture will, in time, 'surpass/exceed' the Xbox 360 and the PlayStation 3 versions.


Thank you for the constructive feedback that most of you have provided on this subject, so far.

Phenom

"WILL in time 'surprass/exceed'the xbox 360 and ps3" NO fifa 2010 no next-gen for pc

[EAUK_Phenom]

I didn't say that FIFA 2010 on PC will (or won't) be the same as the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions of the game (because I do not know whether it will or not, at this moment in time).

Phenom

[Anubis2612]

ok, i understand that our CPU isn't good enough, but what about the graphics? on ps3 and xbox360 the game looks much much better....why is that?

i want to know why the console versions are so much more advanced in terms of graphics, than the PC version?

please respond Phenom.

[PlayFifajo]

Originally Posted by EAUK_Phenom

Before I go on, I'd like to point out that Graphics power and CPU power are two very different technical parameters, and it's because of the CPU power that FIFA09 on PC can not (and does not) have the same architecture as the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions. The Graphics are a separate matter, and FIFA09 on PC has leading-edge graphics.

With that said, please allow me to further explain what I said earlier in this thread, as I believe that some of you may have misunderstood;



[1] I am aware that some PC systems are as capable as the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 (and that some are even more capable than them), but the majority of PC systems aren't (see [4]).

[2] The fact that a PC system can run Gears of War, Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, etc. is irrelevant: the gameplay architecture of FIFA09 can not be compared to games of a different genre, and it is a fact that the majority of PC systems do not have enough CPU processing power for FIFA09 on PC to be the same as the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions.

[3] This means that, although some of your PC's may be able to 'handle' a better gameplay architecture, only 1-3% of PC systems on the market could 'handle' the same gameplay architecture that FIFA09 on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 have (see [4]).

[4] "If the architecture was identical to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions, FIFA09 on PC would only be accessible to 1-3% of the PC systems on the market." That is a fact.

However, because the PC continues to benefit from constant graphics and performance increases (and always will), the FIFA series on the PC will continue to improve each year, and it's architecture will, in time, 'surpass/exceed' the Xbox 360 and the PlayStation 3 versions.
I didn't say that FIFA 2010 on PC will (or won't) be the same as the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions of the game (because I do not know whether it will (or won't) be, at this moment in time).


Thank you for the constructive feedback that most of you have provided on this subject, so far.

Phenom

Phenom you don't need a NASA computer to play FIFA next gen .Look at the strategy games , there you need good CPU and nobody sais only 1-3% can play it. If EA has good programators the game don't need a computer with more than dual core processor.And they better will make a game like on Xbox360/Ps3 next year or many will be dissapointed again [Removed by Phenom]!

[ForzAShevA]

as for meny of you you saw this and i came with a question
what pcs are the using to make the game low end pcs because
it looks like it




the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions because of the CPU processing power required for the architecture of the game.

only accessible to 1-3% of the PC systems on the market.

Having said that, FIFA09 on PC delivers a very deep gameplay engine, along with leading-edge visuals

[EAUK_Phenom]

Originally Posted by Anubis2612

ok, i understand that our CPU isn't good enough, but what about the graphics? on ps3 and xbox360 the game looks much much better....why is that?

i want to know why the console versions are so much more advanced in terms of graphics, than the PC version?

please respond Phenom.

I wouldn't say that FIFA09 on Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 has "much, much better graphics" than FIFA09 on PC, but that's a matter of opinion.

FIFA09 on PC was optimized so that it has the best possible graphics and gameplay engine, while still being accessible to as many fans of the game as possible (so if the game had better graphics, it would require a better graphics card, and it wouldn't be as accessible to the fans of the game).

Originally Posted by PlayFifajo

Phenom you don't need a NASA computer to play FIFA next gen .Look at the strategy games , there you need good CPU and nobody sais only 1-3% can play it. If EA has good programators the game don't need a computer with more than dual core processor.And they better will make a game like on Xbox360/Ps3 next year or many will be dissapointed again [Removed by Phenom]!

The next FIFA on PC will benefit from the graphics and performance increases of the PC platform, but I do not know whether it will have the same graphics and gameplay as the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions of the game.

Phenom

[PlayFifajo]

Still i don't understand why EA cannot take example from PES wich they make all versions be the same.

[Anubis2612]

Phenom, please take a look at Pro Evo and you will notice that the graphics are way better than fifa 09 PC!

shader model 2 is lalalala for a game developed and released in 2008! don't you think?

[DjokoPeridlaka]

Originally Posted by EAUK_Phenom

The PC version of FIFA 09 is different to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions because of the CPU processing power required for the architecture of the game.

The majority of gamer's PC's do not have enough CPU processing power for this architecture, so FIFA09 on PC has been built to have the best possible graphics and gameplay engine while still being accessible to as many fans of the game as possible. If the architecture was identical to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions, FIFA09 on PC would only be accessible to 1-3% of the PC systems on the market.

Having said that, FIFA09 on PC delivers a very deep gameplay engine, along with leading-edge visuals.

Phenom

So, what exactly those low-powered CPUs can't chew? I want tech data, really. Not this PR bull.