Official PC Demo Feedback Thread

[The Doctor76]

Originally Posted by AlaaEG88

Guys that file goes to your fifa directory, that's all! Place it next to fifa09.exe

I changed the game speed line in the locale.ini file to 2 which is supposed to be fast, and wow the game is much more responsive now. Now I can say that I am starting to like this game despite all the old stuff in it!

You like that? It makes the game play like ping-pong! Still, if it improves the game for you, good for you!

[AlaaEG88]

Originally Posted by The Doctor76

You like that? It makes the game play like ping-pong! Still, if it improves the game for you, good for you!

I'd rather play ping-pong than die while watching my player trying to pass the ball.

[Jamielicious]

Originally Posted by The Doctor76

It doesn't really matter what PES brings, because we'll still be stuck with the same worn out Master League format and only six (or is it five) leagues!

True, but a decent PES on the PC could lead to a better Fifa. PES 2008 was not great but the gameplay felt "next-gen", it just lacked polish and features.

[The Doctor76]

Originally Posted by AlaaEG88

I suggest you all download the file attached here by Lupus:
Fifa 09 Demo 2x45 Minutes - Soccer Gaming Forums

Keepers are much better now.

It's good and a nice way to play on a proper level without risking that trojan, but is there a way to make each half about ten or five minutes? Real time Fifa's a bit much...

[BLaZiNgSPEED]

Although the graphics are good. But the graphics of the pitch looks like a Carpet
Its more like a snooker table then a football pitch
The colour isn't that real its supposed to be lime(ish) green not totally forest, dark green

[AlaaEG88]

Originally Posted by The Doctor76

It's good and a nice way to play on a proper level without risking that trojan, but is there a way to make each half about ten or five minutes? Real time Fifa's a bit much...

Just open the file with the notepad and change the 3 lines related to time. It is written in second so you just need to multiply your desired minutes by 60 and replace that 2700.

Here's my locale.ini:
RapidShare: Easy Filehosting

[The Doctor76]

Originally Posted by BLaZiNgSPEED

Although the graphics are good. But the graphics of the pitch looks like a Carpet
Its more like a snooker table then a football pitch
The colour isn't that real its supposed to be lime(ish) green not totally forest, dark green

It's nice if it's sunny, not too bad if overcast, but at night, it's far too dark.

Edit: After using the 'locale' file, the game seems a lot tougher, so that's good.

[AlaaEG88]

Originally Posted by BLaZiNgSPEED

Although the graphics are good. But the graphics of the pitch looks like a Carpet
Its more like a snooker table then a football pitch
The colour isn't that real its supposed to be lime(ish) green not totally forest, dark green

That's what my brother say all the time! But it looks cool, though. Hope they do anything about the night DARKNESS!

[AriseForLife]

Originally Posted by TheKingRH

There is nothing wrong with you preferring Fifa on 360 to PES. I actually think Fifa on the 360 is quite a good game as well. But anyway, it's not about one next gen game compared with the other. The discussion was to do with Fifa 09 on the PC compared with PES on PC. I haven't spoken too much about PES 2009 because the demo isn't even out yet. However, I have used PES 2008 for the comparison.

No, the discussion wasn't. Your reply was about PES on the PC, I wasn't talking about PES at all in my original posts. I don't care enough about PES to even bother mentioning it.

I still disagree with your definition of 'Next Gen' regarding PES 2008. But there's no point in us going round in circles over the same point. At the end of the day, compared to Fifa 09 on PC, the quality of PES 2008 is miles ahead.

You are entitled to your opinion.

Whether you choose to call it a Next Gen game or a Current Gen game, doesn't really matter, because whatever you class it as, Fifa on the PC is lalalala in comparison.

Again you are entitled to your opinion. I do not share your opinion.

However, the reason you seem 'brainwashed' or 'blinded' by EA Sports, leagues, licencing etc, is the way you defend Fifa 09 on the PC and then (without even joking) compare it to PES 2008 on PC.

I did FIFA a disservice comparing it to PES because PES 2008 is flat out lalalala, sorry my mistake. Never the less I am not about to get into an arguement over PES so consider that topic off limits to me.

If you can't see Pro Evolution's: blatant advanced physics; gameplay; graphics; stadiums; facial animations; player models that look and move more like humans instead of short zombies with robotic movement; 3D crowd; detailed stadiums; unpredictable ball deflections; fluid gameplay etc, then it proves my point about brainwashing. But that's fine, you don't have to like PES.

Advanced physics my a**. Graphics, character models, everything about PES is utter lalalala and if you can't see that then God help you. PES 2006, 2007, were bad, but 2008 was universally a failure. The more and more you talk about PES the more and more obvious that you are a PES fanboy for sure. You are the only person I have ever met that can't see the short comings that PES had, hell even the the dev at Konami said the game was a disappointment and they would be aiming higher in 2009. PES's stadium are no where near the level of detail of FIFAs, the player animiation and character models in FIFA are also leaps and bounds better than FIFA, but you are so stuck on PES I think you need to look in the mirror whenit comes to calling someone brainwashed.

But now you have gone on to say:

Quote: "Far behind is a matter of opinion. The only thing that 360 and PS3 offers is visual advancements and a different animation engine."

You're trying to play down the blatant gameplay and graphical advances that Fifa Next Gen has over the new PC version. I don't know how you can play Fifa on your 360 and then play it on PC, then claim the PC version is not far behind. But that's fine. That's your opinion.

I'm not playing down anything, I'm just not making such a big deal over it like the rest of you. The graphics on FIFA-PC are excellent this year, and its blatantly obvious that the visuals of the 360 version are excellent also. Gameplay wise the 306 version is not far ahead of FIFA-PC. After I do my edits the gameplay of the PC version is on par with the 360 version and many people that have grabbed my patches in past versions (06, 07, (didn't do one in 0) have said as much also.

Then you say, quote: "..and yes making FIFA NG on the PC would be a waste of time in my opinion. l: You're not brainwashed. Fine. Your opinion.

Explain how thinking that EA Sports (who makes both games mind you) making FIFA-PC NG is being brainwashed when its the same company that makes the game. Stop being a a moron about it.

Regarding you points about Blu Ray, it still makes no sense at all.

If you had Crysis level graphical stadiums on Fifa 09 PC, yes it WOULD fit on a standard DVD ROM. But what's that got to do with the issue in the first place. It's not about having Crysis type of detailed graphics for Fifa on PC. It's about having the 360 version of Fifa graphics on the PC. The graphics on Fifa 360 is nothing special anyway. But it's miles ahead of Fifa PC version.

I will explain is simple terms so you can understand. If you want FIFA PC to be a next gen game then you will have individually modelled stadiums instead of reskinned stadiums which is what current FIFA uses. Crysis dosen't come on a standard DVD, its on a DVD-9 where as FIFA-PC is on a DVD-5. Crysis' zones are all individually modeled but would not be as detailed as a stadium with a full crowd (who would all have there own animations), flowing banners, 3D grass, etc. Crysis has over 1.5GB of texture data alone and FIFA would use 3 time that data in doing stadiums, etc. Now if you are talking about a direct port of the 306 version that is a different story, but even that is not on the level of Crysis which is what I have been talking about this entire time. I understand you mean 360 level graphics, but if you look at what I have been talking about before you even bothered responding to me I am responding to those who are talkinga bout Crysis level graphics, not Xbox. The player models of the 360 version are not miles ahead of current 09 models, but yes they are slightly ahead.

The reason people are bringing up games like Crysis on the PC is to purposely compare games that have BETTER graphics than Fifa Next Gen in order to prove a point about the brainwashing.

That is not the reason people are bringing up Crysis, DMC, Call of Duty, etc. They are bringiing it up because they want a FIFA game that takes advantage of there custom PCs. You are the only spounting this lala about brainwashing.

[AriseForLife]

Originally Posted by EastCoastSnipa8U

PC NA Version does not allow a practice session. Xbox 360 does allow practice session

What do you need to practice?

PC NA version doesn't properly show xbox 360 control nor can you choose settings of your liking

You do realize this is a demo, right? I mean you can't possibly think you just downloaded the full game.

PC NA version does not have difficulty settings. Xbox360 does have difficulty settings.

See the above statement.

I had a horrible experience with the PC version of Fifa09 demo. Specially when you have to set resolution and input device options each time I play the demo. Fifa09 NA does not save any settings. I can change very few settings in game overall.

Dawg for f**ksakes its a demo you can't expect all the bells and whistles in a damn demo.

[The Doctor76]

I'm not playing down anything, I'm just not making such a big deal over it like the rest of you. The graphics on FIFA-PC are excellent this year, and its blatantly obvious that the visuals of the 360 version are excellent also. Gameplay wise the 306 version is not far ahead of FIFA-PC. After I do my edits the gameplay of the PC version is on par with the 360 version and many people that have grabbed my patches in past versions (06, 07, (didn't do one in 0) have said as much also.

Which patches would they be then? Have you actually found a way to improve the gameplay of Fifa in general and maybe Fifa 09 as well? Things like ball physics and so on?
Because that's the thing that Konami have nailed for years, so if a Fifa game could do likewise, I'd definitely d/l your patches. Keep us posted!

[AriseForLife]

Originally Posted by The Doctor76

Which patches would they be then? Have you actually found a way to improve the gameplay of Fifa in general and maybe Fifa 09 as well? Things like ball physics and so on?
Because that's the thing that Konami have nailed for years, so if a Fifa game could do likewise, I'd definitely d/l your patches. Keep us posted!

Each season I change major thing that impact gameplay.

My last patch corrected CPU tactics, made 8-way directional running work since it was completely screwed up out of the box. I wasn't able to figure out the ball-coding but I did tinker with the passing system and that was fine tuned and made a lot tigher, except in 08 it was pretty good for the most part. My goalkeeper mods where next to perfect and that was the one thing that people wanted most and I delivered. I did not do a patch for FIFA 08 because I was too busy, but my 06 and 07 patches worked in 08 with a little tweaking.

I don't assume there will be any difficulty modding 09 since each game year after year uses the same base progaming. Thats one reason that modders love the PC version so much.

Alot of what I do is focused on making the game more realistic.

[The Doctor76]

Good stuff, I look forwards to seeing your work.

[Waddaa13]

Originally Posted by The Doctor76

It's nice if it's sunny, not too bad if overcast, but at night, it's far too dark.

Edit: After using the 'locale' file, the game seems a lot tougher, so that's good.

were to put local.ini

[TheKingRH]

Originally Posted by AriseForLife

Each season I change major thing that impact gameplay.

My last patch corrected CPU tactics, made 8-way directional running work since it was completely screwed up out of the box. I wasn't able to figure out the ball-coding but I did tinker with the passing system and that was fine tuned and made a lot tigher, except in 08 it was pretty good for the most part. My goalkeeper mods where next to perfect and that was the one thing that people wanted most and I delivered. I did not do a patch for FIFA 08 because I was too busy, but my 06 and 07 patches worked in 08 with a little tweaking.

I don't assume there will be any difficulty modding 09 since each game year after year uses the same base progaming. Thats one reason that modders love the PC version so much.

Alot of what I do is focused on making the game more realistic.

So I understand now..

Your big fear about Fifa on the PC being a port from the 360 is that you think it means you will no longer be able to mod the game.

So that explains why you are so ferociously against the idea of Fifa Next Gen on PC. It also explains how you can post so much unbelievable lalalala about the 360 version not being much better than the PC version. Then trying to create a smokescreen over the real issues by talking about Crysis details and Blu Ray. Lol.

No need to worry....

Don't you realize that if the 360 engine is ported to the PC, as it is now a PC game, it WILL be modable. Just like every other PC game. It doesn't mean you won't be able to mod it anymore.

Also, as I said before, if the PC game was Next Gen, then you wouldn't need to waste so much time modding gameplay, ball physics or graphics. The fact you spend so much time modding Fifa proves that the game is far from realistic to begin with.

Modders always prefer PC versions of video games. True. But that doesn't mean the PC version is any good to begin with.

But don't worry: Fifa Next Gen on PC would still be moddable. Now the benefit to modders and PC gamers, in general, is that the core game would be so relatively good that it would drastically reduce the amount of modding necessary. A good example is ball physics on the 360 version which is miles more realistic than the current PC version.

Regarding your opinions on PES: I won't follow you into your never ending argument cycle. You have your opinion and I have mine. But the more I listen to you, is the more I'm finding out about the route cause of your odd opinions.

Quote: "Alot of what I do is focused on making the game more realistic."

Quote: "I am glad that its not nextgen because editors like myself are greatful since we can edit the code of the game to make it more realistic."

[AriseForLife]

Originally Posted by TheKingRH

So I understand now..

Your big fear about Fifa on the PC being a port from the 360 is that you think it means you will no longer be able to mod the game.

Actually that has nothing to do with it.

So that explains why you are so ferociously against the idea of Fifa Next Gen on PC. It also explains how you can post so much unbelievable lalalala about the 360 version not being much better than the PC version. Then trying to create a smokescreen over the real issues by talking about Crysis details and Blu Ray. Lol.

No need to worry....

...blah blah blah thats all I see when I read your posts. You are entitled to your opinion which means nothing to me.

Don't you realize that if the 360 engine is ported to the PC, as it is now a PC game, it WILL be modable. Just like every other PC game. It doesn't mean you won't be able to mod it anymore.

No really Einstein. Tell me something I don't already know. I never said that it would not be modifiable.

[EastCoastSnipa8U]

Originally Posted by AriseForLife

What do you need to practice?

[quote[PC NA version doesn't properly show xbox 360 control nor can you choose settings of your liking

You do realize this is a demo, right? I mean you can't possibly think you just downloaded the full game.



See the above statement.



Dawg for f**ksakes its a demo you can't expect all the bells and whistles in a damn demo.[/QUOTE]

You are not to bright are you? Those were my observations of the demo between the PC and xbox 360. So there is no need to suggest it's a demo when I am commenting on the demo, duh! Rabid fanboy responses don't help the mods/admins read through the posts and doesn't help the community.

[AriseForLife]

...but the observations you were making were pointless and stupid. Reread what I typed and look at your last reply and tell me that what you typed actually needed to be said.

For example, you talk about your experience with the PC demo and not being able to save settings and that is what drew the response I typed.

[EastCoastSnipa8U]

Originally Posted by AriseForLife

...but the observations you were making were pointless and stupid. Reread what I typed and look at your last reply and tell me that what you typed actually needed to be said.

For example, you talk about your experience with the PC demo and not being able to save settings and that is what drew the response I typed.

The only thing stupid are your rapid responses to my feedback in the Official PC Demo Feedback Thread. Instead of trying to convince me to read what I already comprehend; you need to exit out and read the title of this stickied thread. My post is on topic to the objective of why this thread was created. Your opinion means nothing!

[SmartCanuck1988]

Guys I think you should stop now. People are free to post their opinion about the game, and we collect this feedback (hence this thread) to the FIFA team. You do have the right to disagree with them, but you definitely don't have the right to call their observations/feedback "pointless and stupid."

Let's keep this thread about posting your own feedback about the game.

[EastCoastSnipa8U]

Originally Posted by SmartCanuck1988

Guys I think you should stop now. People are free to post their opinion about the game, and we collect this feedback (hence this thread) to the FIFA team. You do have the right to disagree with them, but you definitely don't have the right to call their observations/feedback "pointless and stupid."

Let's keep this thread about posting your own feedback about the game.

thanks!

[The Doctor76]

Now that I've seen the game at higher levels, I've decided it's worth getting (even though the one area I wanted improved wasn't touched, you know what I mean ). At higher levels, the AI is very good and uses various ways to attack you, it doesn't just come straight up the middle, and it's not as easy to shoot either. In fact, getting into a good shooting position is a job to start with (like real football), so when you get a goal, you feel as though you earned it. Thank God for that locale file, otherwise I doubt if I would've got the PC version, since I found the demo 'out of the box' far too easy. And with the chance that the gameplay can be improved with fan made patches, we should be kept happy until Fifa 2010.

Edit: Has anyone been able to get the demo running under Shader 3? My card supports it, but the settings only go as high as Shader 2.

I hope the game comes with a decent manual, because I can't figure out how to use shielding properly.

Edit: Just seen a cinematics bug. During a pushing and shoving session, the Real Madrid players were pushing and shoving...their own player. Sort that out eh, EA?

[ghaxaq]

Definitely EA did not convince with the released demo, that is basically the error they made.

There is a great chance that the full game will be better polished.

Edit: After downloading the ini file and changing some settings I got to know the game better and it seems more fluent especially when increasing the game speed.

I also found a bug though



and it was a goal!!

[The Doctor76]

Originally Posted by ghaxaq

Definitely EA did not convince with the released demo, that is basically the error they made.

There is a great chance that the full game will be better polished.

Edit: After downloading the ini file and changing some settings I got to know the game better and it seems more fluent especially when increasing the game speed.

I also found a bug though



and it was a goal!!

Ah. Not good.

Edit: When Fifa 08 demo came out, was it representative of the final game, or was the final game slightly better?

[Waddaa13]

Originally Posted by ghaxaq

Definitely EA did not convince with the released demo, that is basically the error they made.

There is a great chance that the full game will be better polished.

Edit: After downloading the ini file and changing some settings I got to know the game better and it seems more fluent especially when increasing the game speed.

I also found a bug though



and it was a goal!!

the same bug happend to me also in casilas and the shooter was anelka from about 25 yard
if i took the screen shot it will be exact match ur screen shot in the same place the ball go through the bar