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Old 14-09-2008, 06:56 AM   #226 (permalink)
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that bug was in Fifa 08 for the entirety of 08's life so far.

Overally, after playing the demo for a few hours. I can say with much happiness, that i think overall, 09 is better than the other versions

My main concern is has the way you replay a demo to turn it into a video file changed? As it's horrible at the moment, but better than nothing. Just wilalalala would stop being replayed in slow motion.
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Old 14-09-2008, 11:39 AM   #227 (permalink)
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Guys I think you should stop now. People are free to post their opinion about the game, and we collect this feedback (hence this thread) to the FIFA team. You do have the right to disagree with them, but you definitely don't have the right to call their observations/feedback "pointless and stupid."

Let's keep this thread about posting your own feedback about the game.
First send this feedback to producers : next year make FIFA 09 on PC exactly like FIFA 09 on Xbox 360 with NO DIFFERENCE , because many people want this...want a game near to reality not a pupets patch.And second , Ariseforlife shut up you say only foolish things, nonsenses, stupidities...
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Old 14-09-2008, 12:37 PM   #228 (permalink)
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Hi all, I will compaire the fifa09 Demo with fifa08 (EURO version) becouse that was the best fifa they made untill now.

The gameplay:

Keeper: In fifa08 It was awsome that you could play with the keeper, espeacialy on long shots, corners, free kicks, and atacks from the wings. Now, i can't find that option annymore, i can only press a key to let the keeper come out, but then he always run to the ball, and never to a player. so, you can't anticipate. so, my points for the keeper are:

EURO 08: 9/10 -- FIFA 09: 3/10

Long shots: I was never a big fan of the long shots, in atack it don't ask tacktickal play, when you defend well, you can chage the precisoin of the long shots, that's nice, but that was also in EURO 08. in fifa 09 I see the long shots are even more easy to do. so, my points for long shots are

EURO 08: 8/10 -- FIFA 09: 7/10

Passes: In the passes did not changed anything so far i can see, so, same points.

EURO 08: 9/10 -- FIFA 09: 9/10

Defending: For me, a defence is the moste importent thing in football, I love a good save, or a nice defence even more then a good goal, in fifa 06 (WK edition) the defence was wonderfull, now it went a bit down, but between EURO 08 and FIFA 09 I can't find a difference

EURO 08: 9/10 -- FIFA 09: 9/10

Players running in to each other: I love the new option, it was also possible in EURO 08, but know it's made much better

EURO 08: 5/10 -- FIFA 09: 7/10

REFERY : the refery changed also since fifa 08 i think, now he is waiting to see if the team still have the ball after a fold, I like it, i see it did not changed, so, good job

EURO 08: 9/10 -- FIFA 09: 9/10

GRAPHICS:
Well, a good gameplay covers graphics, when you have fun, you don't look annymore to the graphics, so, lhat the long distence graphics alsmoste are the same in EURO 08 and in FIFA 09 is no problem for me.

the graphics in the animations and in replays is much better in FIFA 09, I like the 3D grass, and the very nice drawn players. only the audience is not changed, and thay still be flat boarded people.

EURO 08: 14/20 -- FIFA 09: 18/20

OTHER THINGS
There are also some things that you can't see in a demo, how many teams would be in the game, are the players real, ... In EURO 08 i found out that some players just where fake, I hope in FIFA 09 they can fix that again.
I can't give points on the other things now, so i will give the same for bought games

EURO 08: 15/20 -- FIFA 09 15/20

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Conclusion

EURO 08: 78/100 -- FIFA 09 77/100

as you see, the final score is almoste the same for me, off course, you expect for a new game it will be better then the version before, and for me, it isn't.
If they can make the keeper playable just like in EURO 08, then the game would be wonderfull, and worth to buy i think.

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Old 14-09-2008, 01:06 PM   #229 (permalink)
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I like the Fifa 09 PC Demo.not bad but i hope the next fifa has better graphics(close to NG),player models and hopefully an arena mode. I also hope nets and ball physics are better....that's all i ask for.......
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Hi all, I will compaire the fifa09 Demo with fifa08 (EURO version) becouse that was the best fifa they made untill now.

The gameplay:

Keeper: In fifa08 It was awsome that you could play with the keeper, espeacialy on long shots, corners, free kicks, and atacks from the wings. Now, i can't find that option annymore, i can only press a key to let the keeper come out, but then he always run to the ball, and never to a player. so, you can't anticipate. so, my points for the keeper are:

EURO 08: 9/10 -- FIFA 09: 3/10

Long shots: I was never a big fan of the long shots, in atack it don't ask tacktickal play, when you defend well, you can chage the precisoin of the long shots, that's nice, but that was also in EURO 08. in fifa 09 I see the long shots are even more easy to do. so, my points for long shots are

EURO 08: 8/10 -- FIFA 09: 7/10

Passes: In the passes did not changed anything so far i can see, so, same points.

EURO 08: 9/10 -- FIFA 09: 9/10

Defending: For me, a defence is the moste importent thing in football, I love a good save, or a nice defence even more then a good goal, in fifa 06 (WK edition) the defence was wonderfull, now it went a bit down, but between EURO 08 and FIFA 09 I can't find a difference

EURO 08: 9/10 -- FIFA 09: 9/10

Players running in to each other: I love the new option, it was also possible in EURO 08, but know it's made much better

EURO 08: 5/10 -- FIFA 09: 7/10

REFERY : the refery changed also since fifa 08 i think, now he is waiting to see if the team still have the ball after a fold, I like it, i see it did not changed, so, good job

EURO 08: 9/10 -- FIFA 09: 9/10

GRAPHICS:
Well, a good gameplay covers graphics, when you have fun, you don't look annymore to the graphics, so, lhat the long distence graphics alsmoste are the same in EURO 08 and in FIFA 09 is no problem for me.

the graphics in the animations and in replays is much better in FIFA 09, I like the 3D grass, and the very nice drawn players. only the audience is not changed, and thay still be flat boarded people.

EURO 08: 14/20 -- FIFA 09: 18/20

OTHER THINGS
There are also some things that you can't see in a demo, how many teams would be in the game, are the players real, ... In EURO 08 i found out that some players just where fake, I hope in FIFA 09 they can fix that again.
I can't give points on the other things now, so i will give the same for bought games

EURO 08: 15/20 -- FIFA 09 15/20

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Conclusion

EURO 08: 78/100 -- FIFA 09 77/100

as you see, the final score is almoste the same for me, off course, you expect for a new game it will be better then the version before, and for me, it isn't.
If they can make the keeper playable just like in EURO 08, then the game would be wonderfull, and worth to buy i think.

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hey man u are comparing a demo to a full version game
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Old 14-09-2008, 01:53 PM   #231 (permalink)
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yeah it would be really nice to have arena mode on pc
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Old 14-09-2008, 03:07 PM   #232 (permalink)
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I have a problem

Can't run the game full screen. Only in a window.
My PC specs are fine. I belive it has to do with my monitor:

SAMSUNG SyncMaster 740mw
supported resolutions:
800x600
960x600
1280x720

btw, anyone know how to increase the number of resolutions available?
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Old 14-09-2008, 03:53 PM   #233 (permalink)
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hey man u are comparing a demo to a full version game
Well, i need to tell, i don't see mcuh differents between the demo and the full game most of the times. the things where i talk aboud will probably not change annymore
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Old 14-09-2008, 03:57 PM   #234 (permalink)
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Fifa's graphics is really improved if we compare with older versions. Except the graphics i dont see a very huge change..

I played the demo for 4 times and look what happend to me:

and only ea can make such a bug like this!!(look at the radar haha):
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Old 14-09-2008, 04:01 PM   #235 (permalink)
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My 2 cents about mouse movement

I'm really excited about the mouse finally being an important part of FIFA. But mouse movement bothers me a bit.

In the demo, the players move in the direction of the cursor. So if my cursor is at the top-left corner of the screen and I want to make my player turn back, I have to drag the mouse halfway through the screen and this takes way too much time.

I think movement should be handled like skill moves - we should be able to "draw" (as you call it in the tips) the players moves with the mouse. If I just move the mouse in any direction, the player should turn in that direction.

I hope it's not too late to consider this or at least add it as an option in a patch.

It would be a much, much... much more intuitive way to move the players with the mouse.
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Old 14-09-2008, 04:10 PM   #236 (permalink)
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I think it would have been better and wiser to SCALE DOWN the 360 version rather than to SCALE UP the ps2 version.
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Fifa's graphics is really improved if we compare with older versions. Except the graphics i dont see a very huge change..

I played the demo for 4 times and look what happend to me:

and only ea can make such a bug like this!!(look at the radar haha):
FIFA 09 = A BIG Bug
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when will we know new leagues in fifa 09 !
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1. Colour of field seems too deep at night.

2. Goalkeeper caught the ball before net in continues negative.
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No new leagues in FIFA 09!
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Old 14-09-2008, 10:32 PM   #241 (permalink)
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I wouldn't say that 09 looks better then 08. Just looks different. Players has some kind of gloss and looks like they are made of some plastic. Wet plastic will be closest description. 3D grass? Well, for me 2D grass looks much more realistic then 3D. Crowd? They looks same as in 08, 07, 06...
So I don't see what is so great about new graphics in 09. 08 looks OK. If you import 2g kits and adds its looks better and more realistic then 09 in original version.
And ball should be smaller. It looks ridiculous.

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It is hard to compare 08 and 09 when in 09 demo only amateur level is available. Only what I can say is that I can score from 20m with closed eyes.

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I think the graphics are much better, but gameplay isn't much different! Less variation if we compare to the next-gen versions (PS3 and Xbox 360) (I know PC is like next-gen now in graphics)
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Guys I think you should stop now. People are free to post their opinion about the game, and we collect this feedback (hence this thread) to the FIFA team. You do have the right to disagree with them, but you definitely don't have the right to call their observations/feedback "pointless and stupid."

Let's keep this thread about posting your own feedback about the game.
i totally agree with smartcanuck , justify with logical reasons..but not vent ur anger on the feedback..furthermore..after u said some negative stuffs..what does it benefits you then?
its all abt the feedback here...we're all friends and we should share our game expriences together instead of becoming enemies..
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I wouldn't say that 09 looks better then 08. Just looks different. Players has some kind of gloss and looks like they are made of some plastic. Wet plastic will be closest description. 3D grass? Well, for me 2D grass looks much more realistic then 3D. Crowd? They looks same as in 08, 07, 06...
So I don't see what is so great about new graphics in 09. 08 looks OK. If you import 2g kits and adds its looks better and more realistic then 09 in original version.
And ball should be smaller. It looks ridiculous.

Gameplay
It is hard to compare 08 and 09 when in 09 demo only amateur level is available. Only what I can say is that I can score from 20m with closed eyes.

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I disagree about graphics. Moreover I think that a grass like this is the best I have ever seen in football games. For the gloss of players you have only to set the antialiasing of your video card. I'm a FIFA editer/modder from FIFA 2002 and I disagree also when you say that FIFA 08 edited is better than FIFA 09: this is not possible man. Then, if you prefer the real plastic hair of FIFA 08 go back playing FIFA 08... I prefer these hair:





Moreover, for the first time in all these years, yesterday I had the doubt whether to use kits made by editors and kits made by EA SPORTS because I have to admit that EA SPORTS has done a lot of work about kits and they have even learnt how to do seams. So, except for the colours that are a bit faded, FIFA 09 original kits are far better than FIFA 08 kits.
About the gameplay I'm very happy with it but let's wait for the final version...

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yea wait for the final version...
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After playing / examining a lot of matches in the demo. Here's a detailed feedback of mine.

Pros:
+ Generally, graphics are definately an improvement over previous releases.
+ Collision system is nice, but needs some optimization.
+ Offensive AI looks improved. Attackers run through empty areas. That's a nice thing.

Cons:
- Crowd is graphically horrible. As i mentioned before, make them human-being or at least colorful.
- The worst impact on the gameplay is 8-directional-movement. Players immediately change their direction while dribbling, it looks sharp and robotic. So bad.
- Player Defensive AI is bad. I always get caught by 1 attacker with 3 defenders in the box, but defenders stay still right there doing nothing. So then? A score by the attacker. So then? I'm going mad.
- Collision detection sometimes makes players confused. I mean, when i dribble towards my teammate, instead he should go away, he just stands there and make a collision. That's weird.
- Goalkeepers are stupid even with worldclass difficulty. Some goalkeeper animations appear automatically, but unnecessarily.

If you fix the "cons" above, this game is definately a must-buy.

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Great improvement graphics-wise, but (I dunno if this has to do with my PC specs or such) play's choppy, I have to go for almost-2D graphics for smooth play.
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My opinions on demo:

Graphics looks much better now, what's a great step up. Tho some thing that annoys me is that players are too shiny/glossy, like they were made of glass.

What i am not happy about that crowd is still very ugly. Make them feel alive or something. Not 2d, even 2d can be done much better.

I like the 3D grass, but i think it could have been made even better and more natural...

Why i can't control my goalkeeper anymore, like i could in UEFA 2008, i liked it really. So I'm bit sad here.

Seems like there haven't been many changes in overall gameplay, if you play long enough it feels like fifa08. Though in some parts it feels smoother and more natural and real. (Collision system looks good, but needs some improvements/fixing)

And there seems to be one bug with goal bar. I hit the bar and ball went over bar and out of play, but second after it was inside the goal... Mystery, it should not have been.

I really dislike that i can basically move in 8 directions. I want to have 360 degree movement possibility. So it would feel more natural and real.

Also, how can i make tricks with keyboard only, it's mostly impossible. Only can do some step overs and 1 time out of 10 it does something more special, but then it fails hard, because i don't have full control over. So i don't feel that keyboard is fully supported.

Why can't fps go over 60? It's like locked. (I know consoles can't go over 60 frames per second.)

Overall, based on demo 7.5/10 Like the graphics improvements (and hope to see it even more improved in future), gameplay still feels like it was fifa08 only with minor updates...

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What still irritates me in this game is that, when I play against human opponents they have the ability to take the ball with a standing tackle from behind my player!! Why can't we shield the ball while running/jogging? How does the defender's leg get through my player's back in the first place?

Edit: And why is Ronaldinho so fast?!!!!!!!1
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