Crucial FIFA improvements for next title.

[gusct]

Ive recently swapped boats from PES to FIFA after playing both of the latest instalments. In terms of gameplay FIFA 09 takes the cake although not without its many minor niggles. But in terms of variety of game modes and game depth PES is well ahead. For me a combination of the two titles would make for the ultimate football experience. The following are elements of FIFA that need to be improved on for the next title.

KEEPER AI: the goalkeepers in FIFA 09 make some ridiculous decisions and dont work very well with their defenders. Examples of the poor AI are when the keeper will not come out to the ball when it is passing right in front of him or watch as an opposition striker collects the ball from right under his nose before knocking it home. They also often come well out of their box and instead of clearing the ball control it and are challenged by the striker or worse colide with their own defender. PES keepers in general have a far better AI.

DEFENDER AI IN 4 STAR OR LESS TEAMS: in both the Be A Pro mode and normal gameplay i find that teams with 4 or less star ratings tend to have very poor defensive strategy that makes for unrealistic scorelines and inconsistent gameplay. i play on world class and when up against say a chelsea or man u i will mostly have tight matches which i either win by a small margin or draw and sometimes lose. but when matched against hull or bolton or even teams like man city or aston villa i tend to win by 4, 5 and sometimes upto 9 or 10 goals with most of the goals coming from through balls with my strikers basically walking through the defensive line of the opposition. this element of the game needs fixing because it makes for a slightly boring game which only gets thrilling for 2 or 3 fixtures in one season.

GAME DEPTH IN BE A PRO MODE: this for me is one of the most important areas of the game which needs improvement. there is so much potential in be a pro mode but in terms of depth PES's be a legend has far more to offer. in be a pro only playing for four seasons is far too short and it should span the entire career of the player. also you should play in not only the 'world cup' but also european cups etc with your national team. PES also have many individual awards like the Ballon d' Or etc and when playing for your club you play not only the league but also other cups.

CONTROL SYSTEM IN BE A PRO: the button for calling for a ball, calling more defenders and urging teammates to shoot should be different from the button for passing and or playing through balls. so many times ive been in the clear and pressed Y to call for a through ball but the computer got there first passing as i called which results in my player kicking the ball ahead of himself when it gets to him. another niggle in be a pro is your player wont move after he passes the ball until the ball has reached you team mate.

TOURNAMENT MODE NEEDS MORE VARIETY AND DEPTH: why is their no option to play european cups, world cups, asian cups etc with national teams?? this is really frustrating because to play those cups you have to set it up yourself which is very time consuming.

[BenDoverPlz]

Originally Posted by gusct

CONTROL SYSTEM IN BE A PRO: the button for calling for a ball, calling more defenders and urging teammates to shoot should be different from the button for passing and or playing through balls. so many times ive been in the clear and pressed Y to call for a through ball but the computer got there first passing as i called which results in my player kicking the ball ahead of himself when it gets to him. another niggle in be a pro is your player wont move after he passes the ball until the ball has reached you team mate.

i had actually noticed that myself, it would help if these sorts of things were fixed

[wladymeer]

Keeper AI is better in FIFA. They do have some strange glitches here and there, but you know that they will save the ball more easy than PES goalkeepers. They do a great positioning, better movement with ball and cannot be outrunned. As a matter of fact, I would like if FIFA could fix that problem so that goalkeepers don't have clairvoyant ability

Speaking of glitches, I find PES2009 goalkeepers really really dumb because of them. For example, lets mention half-court lob shots: Dailymotion - PES2009 BUG

[gusct]

no doubt both games have their problems with keepers. it is true that FIFA keepers have much better positioning for shot stopping but i would have to say that this is sometimes unrealistic, especially from free kicks or driven shots. the keepers are often already moving towards the shot before they could realistically have seen it e.g. the wall is in the way. i still feel though that the behaviour of keepers around the box could be improved in FIFA.

[BenDoverPlz]

IMO goalkeepers are way way way way too good at saving shots from medium skilled players from outside the box e.g. my strker for stockport jermaine beckford, he has 80+ shooting stats yet i cant score a single goal from outside the box :'{

[Owls_4_life91]

agree with you on the be a pro controls. i think its time they brought back saving replays to hdd too coz the eafw websites been pretty dodgy for me and you only get 5 slots.

[kvream]

Ya check pretty much all my older posts for my 2 cents.

[EAUK_Adroit]

Thanks for your comments.

Moved to the Feedback forum.

[Scottish N Proud]

Originally Posted by gusct

Ive recently swapped boats from PES to FIFA after playing both of the latest instalments. In terms of gameplay FIFA 09 takes the cake although not without its many minor niggles. But in terms of variety of game modes and game depth PES is well ahead. For me a combination of the two titles would make for the ultimate football experience. The following are elements of FIFA that need to be improved on for the next title.

KEEPER AI: the goalkeepers in FIFA 09 make some ridiculous decisions and dont work very well with their defenders. Examples of the poor AI are when the keeper will not come out to the ball when it is passing right in front of him or watch as an opposition striker collects the ball from right under his nose before knocking it home. They also often come well out of their box and instead of clearing the ball control it and are challenged by the striker or worse colide with their own defender. PES keepers in general have a far better AI.

DEFENDER AI IN 4 STAR OR LESS TEAMS: in both the Be A Pro mode and normal gameplay i find that teams with 4 or less star ratings tend to have very poor defensive strategy that makes for unrealistic scorelines and inconsistent gameplay. i play on world class and when up against say a chelsea or man u i will mostly have tight matches which i either win by a small margin or draw and sometimes lose. but when matched against hull or bolton or even teams like man city or aston villa i tend to win by 4, 5 and sometimes upto 9 or 10 goals with most of the goals coming from through balls with my strikers basically walking through the defensive line of the opposition. this element of the game needs fixing because it makes for a slightly boring game which only gets thrilling for 2 or 3 fixtures in one season.

GAME DEPTH IN BE A PRO MODE: this for me is one of the most important areas of the game which needs improvement. there is so much potential in be a pro mode but in terms of depth PES's be a legend has far more to offer. in be a pro only playing for four seasons is far too short and it should span the entire career of the player. also you should play in not only the 'world cup' but also european cups etc with your national team. PES also have many individual awards like the Ballon d' Or etc and when playing for your club you play not only the league but also other cups.

CONTROL SYSTEM IN BE A PRO: the button for calling for a ball, calling more defenders and urging teammates to shoot should be different from the button for passing and or playing through balls. so many times ive been in the clear and pressed Y to call for a through ball but the computer got there first passing as i called which results in my player kicking the ball ahead of himself when it gets to him. another niggle in be a pro is your player wont move after he passes the ball until the ball has reached you team mate.

TOURNAMENT MODE NEEDS MORE VARIETY AND DEPTH: why is their no option to play european cups, world cups, asian cups etc with national teams?? this is really frustrating because to play those cups you have to set it up yourself which is very time consuming.

You didnt include the referee,
Everytime i play a game, the ref gets in the way, For 2010' EA should get rid of the ref like they did on fifa 08

[cooler08]

Originally Posted by TheRealAdriano

You didnt include the referee,
Everytime i play a game, the ref gets in the way, For 2010' EA should get rid of the ref like they did on fifa 08

They shouldnt get rid of the ref, they should just improve his AI so he jumps, moves out the way, etc... when the ball is coming in his direction. EA can program this, im sure.

The Goal Keepers decision making can be quite awful. Playing on Worldclass against Everton, the ball was knocked forward into the penalty area and no Everton players were there to clear it and the Goal Keeper just stands on his line without even attempting to run towards the ball to clear it. then i just run forward with Alves to score an easy goal.

[Heartless1888]

well the next fifa 10 or the anniversary edition, special decade of being lalalala for years then the ultimate football game edition, or what ever its called needs some things

fifa 09 is the best fifa in years, better now than pro evolution which seems to be a misplaced game title as pro evo has took steps BACKWARDS! and hasnt evolved!

so fifa needs some minor touches and features

like ......a proper training mode, so we who use manual controls and those who just some manual things can practice,as the arena is all assited and does not reflect your control method even when its all on manual

were we can set up walls for free kicks,corner practice and what ever else you feel like doing

and better squad line up saving, say we go a team and set up our favourite selection of players and save the line up, so we can go online with that structure, and why isnt captain and marking not on in onlines modes? it should be fixed

more addidas live leagues, scottish spl! for a starter if a mexican league is there so should the spl and other leagues

more stadia, like parkhead, glasgow celtics ground AKA "PARADISE" and even mordor aka ibrox! celtic park is a massive 60,000 all seater stadium and mordor is a 50,000 one, even smelly hampden 53,000 capacity so more stadiums

better transfers and growth system, more youth devolpment

and for online games, more options for custom controls, not just assisted or manual, but your preferance for you and your opponent like say, manual shooting,passing,and assited through balls,semi lob ect ect, as playing manual i enjoy but sometimes you play guys who just quit after their pass goes astray


and please take the tiny delay from shooting and passing away!!!the slight delay is there! its tiny, but it is some times annoying, you get ball and want an instant pass, but in 09 you need to charge a bar, sure most games have a bar, but one for passing? instand controls and passing please!

and a great random team selection button, or euro all star team vs world allstar online game, and even a random squad game, where the game picks a squad of 24 from the games player database for a game which is truelly random!

a few other things like more boots and stuff, and the option to change the color of the boots from ea

we will see in august september time, so roll on fifa 2010/fifa decades

or just FIFA soccer or FIFA,EVOLVED SOCCER

[dickybird747]

Originally Posted by gusct

GAME DEPTH IN BE A PRO MODE: this for me is one of the most important areas of the game which needs improvement. there is so much potential in be a pro mode but in terms of depth PES's be a legend has far more to offer. in be a pro only playing for four seasons is far too short and it should span the entire career of the player. also you should play in not only the 'world cup' but also european cups etc with your national team. PES also have many individual awards like the Ballon d' Or etc and when playing for your club you play not only the league but also other cups.

CONTROL SYSTEM IN BE A PRO: the button for calling for a ball, calling more defenders and urging teammates to shoot should be different from the button for passing and or playing through balls. so many times ive been in the clear and pressed Y to call for a through ball but the computer got there first passing as i called which results in my player kicking the ball ahead of himself when it gets to him. another niggle in be a pro is your player wont move after he passes the ball until the ball has reached you team mate.
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Agree with both of these wholeheartedly. Be a Pro Mode is already becoming a slog after two seasons - some cup matches would help add variety.

Also, why is there no facility to keep track of (or even register) assists? Would make much more sense for an AM to be judged on how many assists he gets, rather than the current (and rather silly) 'take x number of shots' or whatever.

Also also, and apologies for going on a bit, the formula for calculating a player's reputation in the Be a Pro mode seems a bit squiffy; a striker who's scored over a hundred goals in two seasons puts in two mediocre performances and sees his reputation drop by 10-15 points? Okay, it's not that important in the scheme of things, but it does seem a little weird.

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like ......a proper training mode, so we who use manual controls and those who just some manual things can practice,as the arena is all assited and does not reflect your control method even when its all on manual

were we can set up walls for free kicks,corner practice and what ever else you feel like doing

Also fully agree with this. Seems like a missed opporunity for '09, given how many of us have jumped ship from Pro Evo this year.

[s33k3rGR197]

Originally Posted by Heartless1888

like ......a proper training mode, so we who use manual controls and those who just some manual things can practice,as the arena is all assited and does not reflect your control method even when its all on manual

You can loolalalaA Live 09 Academy feature. Make an "Academy" in Fifa.

[cooler08]

Originally Posted by gusct

TOURNAMENT MODE NEEDS MORE VARIETY AND DEPTH: why is their no option to play european cups, world cups, asian cups etc with national teams?? this is really frustrating because to play those cups you have to set it up yourself which is very time consuming.

Agree there, hopefully EA will include FA Cup Replays in Fifa 10. it would be easy and they are an important part of keeping the "FA Cup magic" alive. ie, if your a small club playing away at Old Trafford and you earn a draw you should be able to battle it out again with them on your own turf.

EA release seperate games for the European Championships and the World Cup so this is why they arent on Fifa and probably never will be.

In Tournament mode, i suppose EA could add a setting which enables you to save the Tournament structure. So once you have filled in the details such as selecting the number of teams, named the Tournament, etc... you can save this 'template' so next time you can select this without having the hassle of setting it all up again.

[AjaxRulezzz]

All the BUGS need FIXED. EA don't sleep and fix that ******* BUGS!!!

[FERNAND0TORRES]

DEFENDER AI IN 4 STAR OR LESS TEAMS: in both the Be A Pro mode and normal gameplay i find that teams with 4 or less star ratings tend to have very poor defensive strategy that makes for unrealistic scorelines and inconsistent gameplay. i play on world class and when up against say a chelsea or man u i will mostly have tight matches which i either win by a small margin or draw and sometimes lose. but when matched against hull or bolton or even teams like man city or aston villa i tend to win by 4, 5 and sometimes upto 9 or 10 goals with most of the goals coming from through balls with my strikers basically walking through the defensive line of the opposition. this element of the game needs fixing because it makes for a slightly boring game which only gets thrilling for 2 or 3 fixtures in one season.

That's cause your proberly Barcelona or Man United

Fifa 09 is 10x better than PES I don't know why people even play PES it's just lalalala PES has never been ahead of Fifa and it will never be. Although I think Fifa can be made better this year. Make the Champions League matches at night and like most spanish games at night (on manager mode) I know that this is nothing but it will make it more realistic. On penalty kicks somtimes the goal keeper moves to one side and it's really annoying and Finally on be a pro seasons it should go up to more seasons, 4 is not enough its really annoying.