Database Feedback

Protagonist · 01-12-2006, 11:05 AM

We're interested in your feedback regarding the database.

Is the data accurate enough? Are there any stats which are just plain wrong? Please remember that there will always be some personal opinion differences in how people believe players should be rated, so a 1-5 point difference in skill could be seen as a personal opinion.

Your feedback will be directed to the studio for consideration.

TSchibli · 01-12-2006, 03:34 PM

The Australians are always underated

Joobieo · 01-12-2006, 04:21 PM

I feel that drogba is way to slow his speed is in the 70's, I mean he can't out run anyone and I know hes not that slow.

modbaraban · 01-12-2006, 05:00 PM

Please pay more attention to the players' appearances e.g. B.Leverkusen's Andriy (not Andrej btw) Voronin wears the same ponytail for years, but in the game he's very short haired (which was more than 5 years ago). Oleksandr Shovkovskyi (Ukraine national team GK#1) NEVER was red or blonde. Now in the game he's got short red hair. How come? See the real pic:

These are really few to mention. Some players tend to have unexpected moustaches

like A. Ferdinand. Some are black when they are not in real life. Things these may prevent the gamers from buying certain players in Career cos they want to keep their Manager Mode experience as realistic as possible.

Also about the ratings: S. Kalou is severely overrated as well as Beckham. W. Bridge is underrated. Ukrainian national team is all wrong done. I mean, no kits wrong ratings (e.g Milevskyi). etc.

there's an idea about making the international team players without a club (in FIFA07) available in Manager Mode as Free Agents. That would be more realistic than not having them at all. Please consider that.

Also, can you make M. Owen start the Manager Mode as severely injured? That would be realistic cos he keeps scoring in my career

I hope you will use more help from your local representatives to create/modify the database. You just can't do the whole football world right staying in Canada or in UK.

Thanks for making this sticky (finally). I hope we'll be heard.

Thanx.

TDH14186 · 01-12-2006, 08:09 PM

Rooney is rated too high. And Henry has had the same face for THREE YEARS! Can't he have some hair at least? Oh, and please don't underrate many players. Lauren and Hleb notably. And some Scottish League players.

Lauren didn't play for half a season and from 85 he dropped to 77! Hleb didn't have a superb season, but from 87 to 79? That's crazy!

And Henry, being one of the fastest strikers around? Speed slightly too low. His Acceleration is one of the quickest in the world, IMO.

perplekks · 01-12-2006, 09:18 PM

What I don't understand is:

Werder Bremen being in the Demo. So it's considered an European top team, right? Why the hell are like 50% of the players low detailed? Like no original faces... Tim Wiese (GK). Just an example. There's a lot other players in other teams I'd mention if I was asked.

Oh, and about the ratings: Don't cry... They'll never find a rating that satisfies everyone around here, right?

modbaraban · 01-12-2006, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by perplekks

Oh, and about the ratings: Don't cry... They'll never find a rating that satisfies everyone around here, right?

Cos they gotta give this job to the local ppl in every country (or region at least).
Like me.

perplekks · 02-12-2006, 02:10 AM

You'd rate players like YOU see them, right? But maybe I do see them differently. That's what I was pointing out.

modbaraban · 02-12-2006, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perplekks

You'd rate players like YOU see them, right? But maybe I do see them differently. That's what I was pointing out.

I meant that I would be given the job to rate only the players that you don't usually see at all. So I would evaluete them with some help of the local FIFA community and mr. Commonsense. Heard about him?

QcKSlv3r4 · 02-12-2006, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSchibli

The Australians are always underated

I second that

. Yeah Henry needs a face update.

ZineZizou2 · 02-12-2006, 03:53 PM

Make under 23 players have lower stats so they don't end up being 98 in manager mode.

TDH14186 · 02-12-2006, 04:05 PM

Or rather, restrict growth curves... That way they won't develop to 98 and be at least 93 when they max out.

perplekks · 02-12-2006, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by modbaraban

Quote:

Originally Posted by perplekks

You'd rate players like YOU see them, right? But maybe I do see them differently. That's what I was pointing out.

I meant that I would be given the job to rate only the players that you don't usually see at all. So I would evaluete them with some help of the local FIFA community and mr. Commonsense. Heard about him?

What would lead to a rating made by a small group of people. Even though people usually have no idea of a player they start crying he's under/overrated. That's what's gonna happen... no matter who makes the ratings. That's all I meant. End of this. Thanks.

NickCaputo69 · 02-12-2006, 11:20 PM

add more fringe/reserve and senior players e.g song on arsenal, dudley cambell at birmingham... also add free agent pool like pes so that u can remove players from clubs, and players without clubs that are on national teams can be somewhere; therefore lots of the big name players can be in the game if u want to transfer or add them to a team. for example if a player leaves its club to a club not in the game in january u can move him to the free agent pool which keeps him in the game. beter than eas patch that deleates the player altogether. this would also mean players like dong fangzhao could b moved to man united in january as he is not in a club in fifa 07 but hes on the china national team. this would also mean these players could b bought in the manager mode. players lik ray ray okacha could be available as hes on nigeria but not on a club

modbaraban · 02-12-2006, 11:25 PM

FACE BUGS THREAD

NickCaputo69 · 02-12-2006, 11:46 PM

need to add xavier abel to middlesborough too and no fake player names anymore, we dont want valerio for materazzi or petrovei for mutu or eric collin for djorkaeff etc

KevKool1690 · 03-12-2006, 12:30 AM

For rangers alan mcgregor charlie adam nacho novo and lee martin are rated way too low they all have ratings about 40-60 and are playing amazing for rangers right now unlike some of the other players who have been given high ratings. Klos is given the highest goal keeper rating and he hasn't played for us in over a year and can't even get a place on the bench. Yet other players who have shown they are now good players like mcgregor and adam have way too low ratings for it to be anything like lifelike.

shep000000001 · 03-12-2006, 06:34 AM

Brett Emerton for the Blackburn Rovers skill level needs to be higher..he is only 50 something should be near 75
also his face and most of the Australia team faces

MaHelland07 · 03-12-2006, 03:40 PM

I think you should get a new Louis Saha face. He has not long hair anymore.

And why does only Rooney, Ferdinand, Park, Solskjær and Ronaldo got Nike boots in Manchester United, when Silvestre, Saha, Evra, Scholes also has Nike boots.

Also I think you should have a unlockable like in the World Cup game where you could unlock shoes.

I think also classic shirts was a great unlockable in the World Cup game. In FIFA you could have like the Manchester United Champions League shirt from 1999 and of course some national shirts.

I hope you will concider some of these ideas for FIFA 08.

NickCaputo69 · 03-12-2006, 09:24 PM

The following players should be on the classic team with faces
as well as what is already on the team:

Diego Maradona
Pele (Brazil)
Gascoigne
Bobby Charlton
Jack Charlton
Gary Linker
Peter Schmeichael
Zinedine Zidane
George Best
Marco Van Basten
Michel Platini
Jurgen Klinsmann
Ruud Gullit
Frank Rijkaard
Geoff Hurst
Gordon Banks
Dino Zoff
Ian Wright
Roy Keane
Alan Shearer
Marcel Desiey (cant spell,french, played for chelsea)

modbaraban · 03-12-2006, 10:23 PM

Guys plz. when you feal that some players are under/overrated (or have completely wrong looks or data) be more exact in your comments. I'll be looking at this topic while making my own version of database and your info is much appreciated.
Thanx.

PS:
U can also send your requests by email (under my signature).

modbaraban · 03-12-2006, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickCaputo69

Marcel Desiey (cant spell,french, played for chelsea)

Marcel Desailly

MORE:
Oleg Blokhin (ST)
Eusébio (ST)
Lew Yashin (GK)

and more... (I'm not too good at football history)

KevKool1690 · 03-12-2006, 10:42 PM

Robert Huth still in Chelsea squad now plays for...middlesborough?

TDH14186 · 04-12-2006, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by modbaraban

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickCaputo69

Gascoigne
Marcel Desiey (cant spell,french, played for chelsea)

Paul Gascoyne

Actually it's Paul Gascoigne. He spelt it right.

Bobby Charlton and Gary Lineker and also err... the retired Shearer and Bergkamp should be added in as well.

Also, realistic morale stats in Manager Mode. It's not fair that I have to rotate my squad like Rafa Benitez does...

modbaraban · 04-12-2006, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDH14186

Quote:

Originally Posted by modbaraban

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickCaputo69

Gascoigne
Marcel Desiey (cant spell,french, played for chelsea)

Paul Gascoyne

Actually it's Paul Gascoigne. He spelt it right.

Bobby Charlton and Gary Lineker and also err... the retired Shearer and Bergkamp should be added in as well.

Thanx for correcting me. I mixed the spelling with Mike Gascoyne, the Spyker-MF1 Chief Technical Officer.

I completely agree about Shearer and Bergkamp.

01-12-2006, 11:05 AM	#1 (permalink)
Protagonist Retired Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,136	Database Feedback We're interested in your feedback regarding the database. Is the data accurate enough? Are there any stats which are just plain wrong? Please remember that there will always be some personal opinion differences in how people believe players should be rated, so a 1-5 point difference in skill could be seen as a personal opinion. Your feedback will be directed to the studio for consideration. __________________ Protagonist Community Manager EA SPORTS BIG

01-12-2006, 04:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
Joobieo Forum Junkie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ohio, USA* Age: 20 Posts: 3,343	I feel that drogba is way to slow his speed is in the 70's, I mean he can't out run anyone and I know hes not that slow. __________________ Online Account : * Joobieo * * Level 1 * *Record 0-0* Fifa 2009 Level 17 105-51 Madden 09 ( Xbox 360 )

01-12-2006, 05:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
modbaraban Forum Guru Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,276	Please pay more attention to the players' appearances e.g. B.Leverkusen's Andriy (not Andrej btw) Voronin wears the same ponytail for years, but in the game he's very short haired (which was more than 5 years ago). Oleksandr Shovkovskyi (Ukraine national team GK#1) NEVER was red or blonde. Now in the game he's got short red hair. How come? See the real pic: These are really few to mention. Some players tend to have unexpected moustaches like A. Ferdinand. Some are black when they are not in real life. Things these may prevent the gamers from buying certain players in Career cos they want to keep their Manager Mode experience as realistic as possible. Also about the ratings: S. Kalou is severely overrated as well as Beckham. W. Bridge is underrated. Ukrainian national team is all wrong done. I mean, no kits wrong ratings (e.g Milevskyi). etc. there's an idea about making the international team players without a club (in FIFA07) available in Manager Mode as Free Agents. That would be more realistic than not having them at all. Please consider that. Also, can you make M. Owen start the Manager Mode as severely injured? That would be realistic cos he keeps scoring in my career I hope you will use more help from your local representatives to create/modify the database. You just can't do the whole football world right staying in Canada or in UK. Thanks for making this sticky (finally). I hope we'll be heard. Thanx. __________________

01-12-2006, 09:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
perplekks Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bath, UK Age: 25 Gender: Male Posts: 846	What I don't understand is: Werder Bremen being in the Demo. So it's considered an European top team, right? Why the hell are like 50% of the players low detailed? Like no original faces... Tim Wiese (GK). Just an example. There's a lot other players in other teams I'd mention if I was asked. Oh, and about the ratings: Don't cry... They'll never find a rating that satisfies everyone around here, right? __________________ Watch dese! www.youtube.com/perplekks

02-12-2006, 02:10 AM	#8 (permalink)
perplekks Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bath, UK Age: 25 Gender: Male Posts: 846	You'd rate players like YOU see them, right? But maybe I do see them differently. That's what I was pointing out. __________________ Watch dese! www.youtube.com/perplekks

01-12-2006, 03:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
TSchibli Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 29	The Australians are always underated

01-12-2006, 08:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
TDH14186 Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 595	Rooney is rated too high. And Henry has had the same face for THREE YEARS! Can't he have some hair at least? Oh, and please don't underrate many players. Lauren and Hleb notably. And some Scottish League players. Lauren didn't play for half a season and from 85 he dropped to 77! Hleb didn't have a superb season, but from 87 to 79? That's crazy! And Henry, being one of the fastest strikers around? Speed slightly too low. His Acceleration is one of the quickest in the world, IMO.

02-12-2006, 03:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
ZineZizou2 Forum Guru Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,049	Make under 23 players have lower stats so they don't end up being 98 in manager mode. __________________

02-12-2006, 04:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
TDH14186 Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 595	Or rather, restrict growth curves... That way they won't develop to 98 and be at least 93 when they max out.

02-12-2006, 11:20 PM	#14 (permalink)
NickCaputo69 Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cornwall ENGLAND!!! team: man utd player: fernando torres Posts: 581	add more fringe/reserve and senior players e.g song on arsenal, dudley cambell at birmingham... also add free agent pool like pes so that u can remove players from clubs, and players without clubs that are on national teams can be somewhere; therefore lots of the big name players can be in the game if u want to transfer or add them to a team. for example if a player leaves its club to a club not in the game in january u can move him to the free agent pool which keeps him in the game. beter than eas patch that deleates the player altogether. this would also mean players like dong fangzhao could b moved to man united in january as he is not in a club in fifa 07 but hes on the china national team. this would also mean these players could b bought in the manager mode. players lik ray ray okacha could be available as hes on nigeria but not on a club

02-12-2006, 11:25 PM	#15 (permalink)
modbaraban Forum Guru Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,276	FACE BUGS THREAD

02-12-2006, 11:46 PM	#16 (permalink)
NickCaputo69 Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cornwall ENGLAND!!! team: man utd player: fernando torres Posts: 581	need to add xavier abel to middlesborough too and no fake player names anymore, we dont want valerio for materazzi or petrovei for mutu or eric collin for djorkaeff etc

03-12-2006, 12:30 AM	#17 (permalink)
KevKool1690 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 15	For rangers alan mcgregor charlie adam nacho novo and lee martin are rated way too low they all have ratings about 40-60 and are playing amazing for rangers right now unlike some of the other players who have been given high ratings. Klos is given the highest goal keeper rating and he hasn't played for us in over a year and can't even get a place on the bench. Yet other players who have shown they are now good players like mcgregor and adam have way too low ratings for it to be anything like lifelike.

03-12-2006, 06:34 AM	#18 (permalink)
shep000000001 Forum Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia Posts: 675	Brett Emerton for the Blackburn Rovers skill level needs to be higher..he is only 50 something should be near 75 also his face and most of the Australia team faces __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05-oRoCe4BM

03-12-2006, 03:40 PM	#19 (permalink)
MaHelland07 Forum Guru Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 1,105	I think you should get a new Louis Saha face. He has not long hair anymore. And why does only Rooney, Ferdinand, Park, Solskjær and Ronaldo got Nike boots in Manchester United, when Silvestre, Saha, Evra, Scholes also has Nike boots. Also I think you should have a unlockable like in the World Cup game where you could unlock shoes. I think also classic shirts was a great unlockable in the World Cup game. In FIFA you could have like the Manchester United Champions League shirt from 1999 and of course some national shirts. I hope you will concider some of these ideas for FIFA 08.

03-12-2006, 09:24 PM	#20 (permalink)
NickCaputo69 Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cornwall ENGLAND!!! team: man utd player: fernando torres Posts: 581	The following players should be on the classic team with faces as well as what is already on the team: Diego Maradona Pele (Brazil) Gascoigne Bobby Charlton Jack Charlton Gary Linker Peter Schmeichael Zinedine Zidane George Best Marco Van Basten Michel Platini Jurgen Klinsmann Ruud Gullit Frank Rijkaard Geoff Hurst Gordon Banks Dino Zoff Ian Wright Roy Keane Alan Shearer Marcel Desiey (cant spell,french, played for chelsea)

03-12-2006, 10:23 PM	#21 (permalink)
modbaraban Forum Guru Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,276	Guys plz. when you feal that some players are under/overrated (or have completely wrong looks or data) be more exact in your comments. I'll be looking at this topic while making my own version of database and your info is much appreciated. Thanx. PS: U can also send your requests by email (under my signature). __________________

03-12-2006, 10:42 PM	#23 (permalink)
KevKool1690 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 15	Robert Huth still in Chelsea squad now plays for...middlesborough?