Improvements For FIFA 08

[SmartCanuck1988]

Originally Posted by Fifafan730

Kick takers: You should be able to set who takes the throw-ins.

j/k ... excellent idea ... we should be able to do the same thing as in corners or freekicks and pick a different guy to throw the ball.

also, on the subject of throw-ins, we should be able to change the positions of not just one player ... for example, on keyboard, maybe we can press Space and then (just like the old FIFAs) all players around the throw will either move further away (useful for long balls), or come closer (short throws).

[winstononions]

Another thing that could be done with free kicks is the ability to take a quick free kick. At the moment on free kicks the opposing team are all back in their positions for when a free kick is taken so you lose your momentum and attacking advantage. After you are fouled you could maybe have a couple of seconds to press a button to indicate that you want to take a quick one and the nearest player would take it.

Another thing that could be improved are bookings. Sometimes if you commit a foul the referee will play the advantage rule, which is good, but the next time play goes dead the referee should go back and book the player who committed the foul if it warrants a card, like in real life. At the moment you can commit bad fouls but escape a card if advantage is played.

[SmartCanuck1988]

Yep quick freekicks are one of the things many people have suggested in the past and hopefully we'll see them in FIFA 08

[Zabolxp86]

Please for Indoor Stadium like in FIFA 98...that was great

[Christophores]

As you wish sir...

Originally Posted by winstononions

Absoulutely. This seems to be a simple thing that we should be able to do. Add it to the improvements thread.

http://footballcommunity.ea.com/foru...er=asc&start=0

Posted in another thread and added on request

Hi folks!!

I'm speaking about the pc-version (don't know about other platforms) and I haven't crossed a single toppic about this (and I did a search), but I find it rather annoying that it is not possible to make substitutions at half-time.

This is so unreal to me... because what do you do at half-time in a real soccer game?...

• you have a good talk with your team if they have performed like "you know how" (in the game this means... you take a look at the stats, both individual and as a team)
  you switch player's position
  you switch the system you play at
  ...Go to the toilet and take a break you name it

As I stated... to me it's unreal they haven't implemented this. That a whole team can overlook such a simple thing is beyond my comprehension. Who is with me here? And who disagrees and why?

Greetz,
XtOf

[Turkey90Play]

yes yes

[kenooood]

im not sure what one it was but one of the old fifas had indoor 5 a side on it
BRING THIS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and you still havnt got the 3rd kits sorted, you should be able to use them online

[KezmanFB]

Originally Posted by Fifafan730

Kick takers: You should be able to set who takes the throw-ins.

I don't like the idea of selecting who does the throw-ins. In real life you have every single player doing throw-ins.


In real life you have one to two players per team that does long throw ins. e.g. in Newcastle there is Gary Speed who is a long throw-in specialist. He always takes a throw-in from the corner box and once speed throws the ball it reaches the six yard box or the ball lands in the penalty area.

So what i would like EA to implement is that if you would like to do a long throw in just at the edge of the corner box then all you have to do is press select then you have a player with the abilty to do a long throw-in, then you have 3-6 players in the penaltu box and all of them being marked.

[Thade2532]

more leagues and the 360 version to have much more in it!

[TDH14186]

The crowd should not look like cardboard cuttings, this definitely needs more realistic. Like crowds having 3-D bodies as well.

[Thade2532]

Originally Posted by SmartCanuck1988

*hopes somebody has posted before him so it's not a double-post* [EDIT: lalalala ]



Believe it or not everything (almost) I'll be mentioning here is possible to be edited on FIFA (for YEARS) by simply editing the database or using Creation Centre -so only PC users could do that.

You'll probably read this and say: "hey, you stole that from PES" ... Not really, this was in FIFA for years like I said, and IMO it should be in-game so that console users can enjoy those editing abilities.

You'll also say: "Why not just copy PES's editor?" ... IMO, it's a waste of time. You'll see that the options you can already edit on FIFA are alot already. I have WE9 (so it's not like I live under a rock ) and I have used the Team Editor there and IMO (just IMO) it's "too much" ... if you're gonna use that detailed Editor, might as well use a much better tool (photoshop for example) and save kits and stuff on option files. I'm just being realistic here, FIFA has no Team Editor and they can improve it later on, but at least add a basic one for now then argue on how to improve it later.

Here's my theory (I'm using Kits as an example): There are different types of people ....
A. people who want 50-60% accuracy for their created/edited teams (just get the right colours on the kits and almost the right shirt style .. maybe the right font as well) ...
B. people who want 80-90% accuracy (get the kit very accurate .. but will ignore details like the logo is 2cm off to the left, or the font size is 1 or 2pts off ... maybe not even the same exact shade of colour -but still have several options of shades) ....
C. people who want 99%-100% accuracy ... will not accept anything but perfect!

IMO, the FIFA Editor will give you around 80-85% accuracy ... while the current WE9 editor will give you 95%

So, both editors will satisfy "people A" and "people B" ... "people C" will just go with making the kits on photoshop and get them exactly right, and then import them into the game.

So my theory is: why waste the time/effort on making the editor accuracy increase from 80% to 95%, if it will still satisfy the same group of people ... group C will never be satisfied, that's just reality. Maybe you can work on making the editor 95% accurate later on (when you have nothing better to do lol), but as a first step, get to 80%.


Anyways, I'll stop it with my theories now .... here's the "Team Editor" -which also used for Create-A-Team. I'll talk a bit more about Create-A-Team later on, but basically (when you're creating a team), the first steps will be entering basic information and choosing kits and stuff.. so the first few steps of Create-A-Team are identical (more or less) to the "Team Editor"


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^ add to that STARTING BUDGET



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Ah lalalala, I forgot "Collar Type/Style" for the Jersey



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phew

will all of that be on the xbox 360 version

[mazinya]

It would be nice if we could know who is the top goal scorers in every other league. that would help us choose players or atleast strikers better on transfer window

[winstononions]

Just thought of something else which would be good. In 06 whenever i played in the final of the ECC in manager mode i always played the final in the same stadium, the Ataturk. This was not realistic. I've not made it to the final yet so far in 07 so i don't know yet if it's the same.

If it's still the same format then what should happen for 08 is that the final of the ECC and EFA competitions should be played in a different 'real' stadium every season, like in real life.

The bigger capacity real stadiums like Wembley, the Nou Camp, Parc des Princes etc. should host the ECC finals while smaller capacity real stadiums like the Bay Arena, Bollaert, Constant Vanden Stock etc. would host the EFA final. This would make it a bit more authentic and varied, and that equals greater playability.

[MadHatter1885]

Hi theres been some great suggestions so far, here are some of mine..

1.When you've had your kit for 1 or 2 seasons in manager mode we should be able to edit the kits like adding a different layout e.g If the badge was on the top left of the kit move it to the middle and also combine the sponsoryou signed a contract with and add that to the kit and be able to move it to the position you want it.We should also be able to add badges and sponsors to goalie kits (like arsenal already have).

2.I'm not sure aobut the pc version but the ps2 version doesn't have a ref on the pitch but even it it did i still wouldn't be satisfied because there should be linesmen and the 4th official to, adding the linesmen will open up cutscenes and also add a bit more realism by sometimes getting decisions wrong and in the cutscenes players running over and aguing at the linesman, these are simple things that should have been added in previous fifa's.

3.Commentary names for many lower league players, what i mean is is that in the next fifa they should either add commentary to players who are not mentioned in the commentary or we can choose the commentary name in the edit/create a player mode this feature is in cricket 05 in which you can choose your players commentary name from a massive list of second names which also has a lot of rare ones to.

4.Another lower league suggestion (sometimes top-flight), we should be able to edit a players face because the faces look nothing like the ones in real life especially in the lower leagues and if this feature was added at least we could be able to have a go at editing the face to look like the real life player instead of fifas default ones, because all we can do at the moment is edit the players stats and accessories etc ... the only other option at this time to get a player to look more like him in real life is to create him from scratch which causes hassel and takes a lot of time.This would also keep the player up to date e.g if wayne rooney grows a beard lol then we can add a beard on his face without creating a whole new player not that anyone would do that anyway but a simple thing like that would solve the problem and make it more realistic.

I hope the makers listen to mine and all your great suggestions because these would simply make the game 10 times realistic and better than it is now .

[SmartCanuck1988]

@camarsenal07: Not sure what you mean. That is an idea I'm proposing for EA, not something that will actually be in the game. But yes I do hope that it'll be in all versions.

[gb01982]

Originally Posted by KezmanFB

I don't like the idea of selecting who does the throw-ins. In real life you have every single player doing throw-ins.


In real life you have one to two players per team that does long throw ins. e.g. in Newcastle there is Gary Speed who is a long throw-in specialist. He always takes a throw-in from the corner box and once speed throws the ball it reaches the six yard box or the ball lands in the penalty area.

So what i would like EA to implement is that if you would like to do a long throw in just at the edge of the corner box then all you have to do is press select then you have a player with the abilty to do a long throw-in, then you have 3-6 players in the penaltu box and all of them being marked.

Gary Speed plays for Bolton in real life!!!

[larssoni123]

1.Tactics

More tactic things, not only during gameplay. Like you could choose would your backs go support attacks or just they defend and like other striker is target and goes to far post and wingers could change for like couple mins to other side and more more different things. You could make your own kind of tactic how would your team plays like pressing up or keeping ball or long balls to strikers and more.
More formations or you could put players in field where do you want like in PES, like Cafu in Milan would be little higher than other defenders or you could put first 4-4-2 and then choose how would backs be in one line, midfield diamond or strikers other target and other running forward and so on. Or just should put more "missing" formations like 4-3-3 where two attacking and one defending midfield and 4-1-3-2, 3-3-4 and many others.
And you could choose your freekick,corner,throw-in,goalkick and other tatctics, like you choose who goes to corner. Usually fullbacks are good headplayers but in Fifa there is only midfield and strikers.

2.Gameplay

Its going to better put still there is so much to improve.Its still looks like fifa not football, players just keep their place and almost everything what they do they do it 100%, like would like to see not always succes tricks,passes and other.I hate when fifa 06 you couldnt run past defenders put in fifa 07 you almost everytime could run past them.
That is good like if you go with fullback to attack then someone take his place but sometimes they do stupid like leftback takes midfielders place.
Should improve throughpasses, they are very hard to do, L1+triangle is not so good . I would like to have like Lampard takes cross behind line. And in 07 the crosses are low, you could choose cross like other to take control or to use head/kick the ball.
Players should do their moves like in real football like shielding and passing and so on, now it look like they are machines who succes 100%.

3.Graphs//crowd/other and so on

Faces could improve to some players, like Zlatan face doesnt look at all Zlatan.More real faces and styles. More runningstyles and playingstyles, some players could be boneheads and go into every 1v1 110% but some just use skill and so on.More playingstyle, now everyone almost looks same only faces different, starplayers got style.
Crowd looks stupid and grass looks stupid, more improve. More real crowdchants and almost nonstop chanting/yelling like in real life.

Thats all for now, sorry for bad english writing.

[colm17]

put in real faces lalalala theyve made tommy smith (now in watford but in squads hes still at derby) a ginger when he has black hair in RL. They also have been making Stephen Reid White for about 4 years now when he is black in real life.

Give the crowd more chants that they do in real life and why do ea have to be so babyish not letting the crowd ever swear? what happened to the chant "the referee's a w***er!".

Also in amateur ur strikers get in good position for u to slip a thru ball to them so their in on goal but now they just stand behind the defenders from semi pro up

[KezmanFB]

Originally Posted by gb01982

Gary Speed plays for Bolton in real life!!!

Yeh i knew dat

[MalecPlayer]

id like to see more tricks...like those from fifa06 05 euro04 and fifa WC 2002(in FWC2002 you were able to juggling with the ball pressing Z for right leg and C for the left leg I'd like to see it again in fifa0and the new one's
freestyle mode...where we can do all the tricks like in the nike videos and etc.
id like to see 2 players mode on one keyboard
more animations
diffrent nets
50-60 kinds of boots
20-30 kinds of balls
new graphics : > that's all if you guys gonna do this it will be the best football game for me...

[SmartCanuck1988]

Creating tournaments is one of the things I enjoy the most on FIFA. I love making all sorta crazy tournaments and play them. Thankfull, there's a great utility called Tournament Master that allows me to do just that. However for console people, they're not that lucky. That said, there are few things that even Tournament Master cannot do.

Just one note tho, no i'm not saying that I want create-a-tournament to be as complicated as it is on Tournament Master because frankly that's just a big waste of time as there are more important aspects of the game to worry about. However that doesn't mean we should stay with the same create-a-tournament system for years.



So, this is how I think the Create-A-Tournament system should be like...

















One of the new comments about FIFA 07 was that Juventus started with 0pts although they should've started with a negative number of points. So this idea came to me, allow teams to have different starting 'pts' (and also goals for/against) and it would be both a way to "fix" the 'juventus problem' and also a way of designing "scenarios" that people can make themselves and play around with.











Now back to the Save As Template thingie:







Alternatively, the "Save As Template" can be replaced with just saving the entire tournament along with the teams and everything else (just like FIFA 2002) ... However I thought saving the template only is a better way for sharing such creations since people don't have to share the teams as well (if they're using created teams and what not). (Maybe let us be able to do both ... ie: first let us save the tournament, and then we pick if we want to save it as "Full Tournament" or "Template Only" ... yea that sounds better lol)



Anyway, that's my idea ... Tournament Master is still way more complicated and more customizable than this, but like I said before, if you want a deeper tournament creator then you'd prolly use Tournament Master anyway. However that doesn't mean we have to stay with the current create-a-tournament system because it's rather limited imo plus there are things that we can't do on Tournament Master anyway.

[bdweeres]

I would love to see the ability to redo the last 30 or so seconds. There are many times I do something and wonder what the result would have been if I had made a different decision. By pressing the redo button the game would reposition itself back in time 30 seconds and you start playing over from that point. The time to go back / redo should be configurable; 20 sec., 30, etc.

There are a few options for playing the redo. This should probably be configurable at the various different levels; game, season, etc.

1. Once you have started the redo you can only play for the duration you went back and then the game resets back to the state it was prior to you initiating the redo. This would allow you to redo without actually affecting the game result. You could redo that last 30 seconds many times to see what happens with different choices.
2. The redo becomes part of the game and the game just continues after the redo period is over.
3. A popup is presented after the redo period asking if you want to reset to the state prior to initiating the redo, continue the game including the redo results or try another redo.

[SmartCanuck1988]

Originally Posted by bdweeres

I would love to see the ability to redo the last 30 or so seconds. There are many times I do something and wonder what the result would have been if I had made a different decision. By pressing the redo button the game would reposition itself back in time 30 seconds and you start playing over from that point. The time to go back / redo should be configurable; 20 sec., 30, etc.

There are a few options for playing the redo. This should probably be configurable at the various different levels; game, season, etc.

1. Once you have started the redo you can only play for the duration you went back and then the game resets back to the state it was prior to you initiating the redo. This would allow you to redo without actually affecting the game result. You could redo that last 30 seconds many times to see what happens with different choices.
2. The redo becomes part of the game and the game just continues after the redo period is over.
3. A popup is presented after the redo period asking if you want to reset to the state prior to initiating the redo, continue the game including the redo results or try another redo.

Interesting idea.

[qu1nch0]

Personally, I don't like it, because it would a lot of realism to the game

[gb01982]

Originally Posted by bdweeres

I would love to see the ability to redo the last 30 or so seconds. There are many times I do something and wonder what the result would have been if I had made a different decision. By pressing the redo button the game would reposition itself back in time 30 seconds and you start playing over from that point. The time to go back / redo should be configurable; 20 sec., 30, etc.

There are a few options for playing the redo. This should probably be configurable at the various different levels; game, season, etc.

1. Once you have started the redo you can only play for the duration you went back and then the game resets back to the state it was prior to you initiating the redo. This would allow you to redo without actually affecting the game result. You could redo that last 30 seconds many times to see what happens with different choices.
2. The redo becomes part of the game and the game just continues after the redo period is over.
3. A popup is presented after the redo period asking if you want to reset to the state prior to initiating the redo, continue the game including the redo results or try another redo.

wouldnt that be cheating!!! I think that would spoil the game completley its not all about winning plus fifa is easy you should win anyway