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#52 (permalink) |
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OK, i’ve had another swim in my think tank and i have a tactical idea for runs off the ball. At the moment to get a player to make a run you have to be facing him and then press L1 to set him off on a run. However, this only sets that one single guy off on a run. In real life runs are more meaningful and effective when multiple players make runs at the same time, with one creating space for the other to move into and exploit.
My idea is that before each game in a tactical area of team management you assign your attacking players what runs you want them to make when you press L1 during the game. 1 – players who play in positions with attacking mentalities would be available to assign off the ball runs to - ie strikers, wingers, attacking midfielders and wing backs. 2 – the type of off the ball runs that could be assigned to these players could be – - drop deeper into the midfield (left/right/centrally) to collect the ball - overlap down the wing - move into space on the edge of the penalty area (l/r/c) - cut inside from the wing - hug the touchline - angled run between defenders into a certain area - direct run towards far/near post - default movement, if you can’t be bothered assigning a run to a player I’m sure there are more movements that can be included aswell. 3 – each individual attacker would have 3 slots into which a different style of off the ball run would be allocated. These 3 slots are kind of similar to how you could choose the pre-planned corner and free kick routines in Fifa 04 or 05, where at a corner or a free kick you chose before the game three options on how to take the set play. EDIT: you can also allocate the same movement to all 3 of a players slots. For example if all you ever want your wing back to do when you are attacking is to overlap then you set all 3 of his slots to overlap. That means whatever pattern of runs you choose to set in motion your wing back will always be overlapping. 4 – when you press the L1 button once, the players that you have assigned off the ball runs to would perform the movements allocated to them in the first slot. Press L2 twice and they perform the movements allocated to them in the second slot etc. This is basically similar to American Football where wide receivers all run their own patterns at the same time. For example imagine you are playing with 2 strikers and an attacking midfielder just behind them. Before the game you allocate your left strikers first slot to be to drop into the midfield. You allocate your right strikers first slot to be a run to the right side of the edge of the penalty area. You allocate your attacking midfielders first slot to be to run to the space at the centre of the penalty area. In the game when you press L1 these 3 players should make their runs at the same time. Here the left striker drops deeper, taking a defender out of position, while at the same time the right striker is running to the right edge of the penalty area, again dragging his defender with him. While the strikers are doing this the attacking midfielder is simultaneously running into the space that the strikers are creating for him at the edge of the penalty area so that he has a scoring opportunity. Another example could be that you set your wing backs third slot to be 'run an overlap' and set your wingers third slot to be 'cut inside'. On this occasion you would press L1 three times and these players would run these patterns. The winger comes inside, drawing the full back with him, while at the same time the wing back is charging down the wing to get into the free space that the winger has left behind him. This isn’t really like the off the ball runs that were in 04 or 05. In that game you activated one player to make a run and then had to manually move that player into position for a pass. This idea is to activate not just one, but several of your attacking players into making runs at the same time, and runs that don’t have to be carried out manually but are pre-planned. This should create a more fluid style of attacking gameplay where attackers function as a unit, creating space for each other and exploiting the space that somebody has made for them. EDIT: getting the ball to a player who has made an off the ball run should depend on the passing skill of the user. In 04 when you made a pass to a player making such a run the ball always went right to him - it shouldn't be like that. As you come up against different teams with different formations you may rethink your tactics before each game so that your attackers run patterns that can penetrate and expose different types of defences. As the manager this means having to put more thought into what types of off the ball runs are best suited to break down different opponents. I think this is a decent idea for more fluid attacking gameplay but i'm not sure i've explained it all that well.
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GK- Goal Kick PK- Penalty Kick FK- Free Kick CK- Corner Kick PES/WE- Pro Evoltuion Soccer/Winning Eleven First and foremost, Substitutions In the Fifa series, subs are done once the ball goes out of play. For example, if the ball is out of play for a throw in, a GK or even a FK. I want to make a substitution and it becomes effective immediately, instead of waiting until the ball is out of play again. (PES/WE does that well) I see that the computer makes subs but are these subs for tactical reasons or are they just putting players into the game. Since owning this game or even world cup game, the comp makes only one sub during games unless they get an injury. It would be nice to see if the computer is down a goal they would take off a defender to put on a attacker or the opposite... up a goal and want to ensure they hold on to the lead and take off an attacker or a midfielder to add an extra defender. Celebrations/Cutscenes They visuals in 07 are nice, very funny(yet to see the electric slide goal celebration as seen done by Lyon players). With regards to the celebrations, I want to see a trophy celebration where you see the Captain of your team receive his medal and lift the trophy with the rest of the team on the podium with confetti and fireworks. After, you see them parading around the field with the trophy and holding flags of their nationality. The goal celebrations could be a bit more realistic in the sense if you score a goal and the player doesn't run off to the corner flag the cutscene reflects where he is on the pitch. (PES/WE does a good job of this, not sayin copy their style). In a league, you guys wait til we have played the last game of the season to say we won the trophy even though with 5 games or more to go the point difference between first and second is so large. An example of what I mean... look two years ago when Chelsea played Bolton at The Reebok stadium and Lampard scored two wonderful goals and gave Chelsea the win to secure the League title and they had the trophy presentation on their opponents ground. That would be nice. Also let it apply if you are at home and you win a game to secure the title, even though it is not the last game of the season. With regards to a game that will determine if the title is yours... show the players walking past the trophy like they do in real life especially seen in the Champion's League Final. Do that for cup finals and games in the league where it decides if you win it. I think someone mention this earlier, Tidbits of Scores in other games.....just as in the world cup game where you could see the scores of other games in the group. that was a nice lil' feature I enjoyed bring that back for the domestic leagues and group competitions like EFA and ECC. With commentators mentioning the score like they did in World Cup Game Germany 2006. Players looks The producers of World Cup Germany 2006 did a good job with player faces. Drogba and Robinho were spot on in that game but look a tad bit bad in 07. Use the templates that were used in that game for Drogba and Robinho in Fifa 08. Adriano is face has been caught very well but his skin tone is a bit light. The complexion or tone he had in Fifa 06 was excellent. Incorporate skintone from 06 with how Adriano looks now in 07. Editing Kit Numbers In 06 and in 07 when you edit a number for a player why does it affect the numbering for that player on their country. The goal is if you edit a Joaquin(Valencia) who wears 17 for country and you change his number @ the club from 17 to 15... the number on spain changes to 15. That should not be so. Edit for country should be separate from edit for club. To combat this glitch, when I'm editing I look @ the player's nationality. if the country is included in the game.... I look at the squad selection if the player is on the squad, remove him, change the kit number for club and then put him back on the international squad so as to not change his number for the country. Some players wear the same number for country just like club. Example... Nicolas Anelka wears 39 for Bolton and France so changing his number wouldn't affect anything. Selection of Keeper why are we the fans unable to select our goal keeper to take FK or PK. I want to have the option to choose my keeper just like I can choose the other 10 players on the field to do the same. Leagues The Argentine league should be the next league introduced in Fifa 08 since it seems you add a league with each new installment. I liked that the Turkish League was introduced. You can think of the Greek League, Russian League, Romanian League or the Ukrainian League since a lot of teams seeming to be entering the european competitions from these countries. Stadiums If the Argentine league is included in 08 please put in La Bombanera (Boca Juniors) and El Monumental (Riverplate). I was bit disappointed that the biggest club in Germany - Bayern Munich did not have the Allianz Arena in the current gen version.... I think it is in next gen version (x-box 360). It would be nice to include it in 08. I was also wondering if you had it in the world cup game why were unable to put it in 07? Comments on this game (Fifa 07) The idea to be able to select any person you want to kick a CK or FK is excellent. The gameplay is much better but the players still don't move as they should especially if you are in the box and you want to make a pass to a player he doesn't come towards the ball enabling the computer to intercept and kick it out. Against human opponents the game plays much better. The game overall is much improved and the recommendations here along with what has already been written in this thread should enable Fifa 08 to be the King of Footie... putting pressure on PES/WE producers. I hope I have made a difference with my post for Fifa 08 [/u] |
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Don't know if somebody has said this but, at the end of every 2 seasons you could change the sponsor/colour on your home/away and keepers kit.
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Unfortunately this will probably not be possible because of licensing issues, but good idea nevertheless Maybe just for created-clubs we can have the sponsor on the shirt and then we can change it if we want to throughout the career. |
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good ideas.
When you win a cup, players should be seen awarded the cup, given winners medals vice versa and at the end could all throw their shirts into the stands. I would like to see more detailed transfers like if hes going to be used as backup or rotation ect. And when the deal is all but done, you should have to sign a contract like with sponsers except stating that you have permission to complete the transfer of who-ever. Better graphics. More realistic and detailed AI More Create a player and edit options More celebrations When you increase your stadium sizre, you should see where it has been increased while playing ie taller tiers or filled corners. The option to be approached by clubs to manage them The option to be approached by continental outfits to manage them aswell as internationals. A way to sign assistant managers, sporting directors, ect More realistic league tables like Chelsea and Man U dominating and the likes of Charlton and Middlesbro struggling. BUG FREE! More animations and more famous sponsers ie (Voderfone, Nokia, T Mobile, thomson, Thomas Cook, LOL thats me finished! |
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More injuries. No i'm serious. I've only had one so far this season (currently Jan 07). Not big injuries but you should get small injuries all the time.
Also at the start of the game in career mode occasionally you should be informed that one of your players has been injured in the warm up and that you need to choose one of your subs to replace them. This would add another aspect of realism. Can't be hard to implement either. Just randomly picks a player in a certain percentage of games.
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HERE ARE MY IDEAS
things in black color are for FIFA 08 things in red are for FIFA 2108 1. GOAL NETS ----- -nets should move better and diffrent for difrent teams (on San Siro the nets are not tight but they are "jus hangin"and the ball crashes into them very beautifully but in stamford bridge they are very tight and the ball bounces off them) -for diffrent stadiums diffrent frames (in Santiago Bernabeu the nets are deep (3 meters) but on Stamford Bridge they are 1 meter. Or in training the nets in the old style (without the roof) 2. WEATHER -ok for crying out loud SNOW, not all stadiums have warm grass, moreand more snow when you pick heavy snow, and the reffery has to stop the game because there is too much snow -Rain is pretty good, but sometimes when the rain is heavy the ball should stop or players should fall - FOG, that would be pretty good (where to pass ??!?!?) 3. BETTER CREATE A TEAM - no comment 4.DETAILS -like people walking around the pitch -manager running around the bench 5.CRAZY - crazy fans running into the stadium (1,2) and throwing banana skins and and..... and thats it 6.NETS NETS NETS PLEASE |
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I want to see big goalkeeper improvements I am sick of all the goalkeepers diving and saving all the same way should allow individuality for each goalkeeper. I want to see an occasional miss kick and keepers bringing players down inside the box. Keepers should get booked and injured like any other player also I have just played the fifa 2007 demo and the keepers can only kick it to half way
this is a bit silly considering keepers can kick a ball the full length of the pitch. Keepers should be able to come up for corners when you are losing and time is running out maybe hold keeper charge untill your keeper gets into the box then continue with corner. Also maybe introduce yellow cards for players who kick the ball away after the whistle has gone. I want better commentary not stupid thick ***** who dont have a clue. The commentary team should have knowledge of changes to your team. They should point out how many goals a player has scored in the league, cup and last game etc. Point out how many goals they have gone without scoring and point out that a player has just come back from suspension. If you have just bought a player the commentary team should mention this also. There is loads of improvments in the commentary section needed but unfortunatley I dont have all day to talk about them. REPLAYS!!! why the **** cant I watch my replays online scored some beauties online but you ***** stop me from watching them. I cant really comment on this new online league thingy but I bet you wont have a online transfer market. You should have manager of the month awards and goals should be saved and uploaded to your servers for a goal of the month competition. How about pitch invasion when you have been promoted or won the league etc. You should have a real honours list for all clubs and competitions that you can add too once you have won something. Also you should be able to expand your stadium and choose your sponsors. I have many more ideas but cant be bothered writing them but serious you should add some of these because your far away from creating a perfect football game. You should have me on your development team I would make your game twice as nice!!! p.s where has the 4-2-4 formation gone in the new fifa |
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It's great that we can change tactics in-game on the fly, but why can't we change them in Team Management?
Especially for say the FTL when we're doing CPU vs CPU matches, we cannot enable/disable tactics for the CPU. Being able to choose the tactics the team starts with would be really useful. Plus we don't have to change them on the fly everytime we start a match. Here's what I mean: (Don't worry this is not another 7-slide presentation )![]() That's it ... all I'm asking for is that little Tactics box where we can switch the "Starting tactics" on/off. Plus selecting Team Mentality (attack, defence, neutral). On the topic of Team Management, it doesn't make sense that "Man Marking" is in a separate screen outside Team Management (I'm talking about the in-game menus). Also under Team Management (on the main menu), you have separate screens for Squads and Kick Takers. Would make more sense if these are all under one screen (Squads). I'm not saying that this is a huge deal (not at all). But all they do is make the menus longer (something that isn't necessarily a good thing) and it's alot neater if they are under one screen. Just a thought
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Thought of a few things since writing that post.
Shoe Purchase In World Cup 06, we were able to unlock shoes and put them on our favourite players. In 07, these shoes are in the game but only given to the respective ball players who wear these shoes. If I create a player why can't I give him Ronaldinho or Wayne Rooney shoes. Bring the purchasing of the shoes back. A player like Thierry Henry shouldn't have to wear the generic EA boots, the Mercurial Vapours boots (the white with red or the white with yellow) were in World cup and I gave it to him. Add this feature in 08 Change of Kits In Fifa 06, using Bayern Munich(Their home kit was Red shirt & white shorts) and I thought to myself why doesn't Bayern have the full red kit. In 07, you brought the full red kit but I want to be able to make the jersey look like it did in 06. It would be nice if you could mix the kits... example Bayern Munich - Red Shirt & White shorts or White shirt & red shorts and have Full red kit (Home kit ) and the white kit (Away Kit). The Third kits are lovely in 07. AC Milan is another team that plays the dark shirt with white shorts. Captaincy Assignment In squad management, we are able to assign the captain armband to a player. In the event of fixing up the squad before playing a game whether it be in kick off or manager mode or any section where you can play a match, if you remove the person who is the captain.... the armband by default goes to the right back or sometimes the keeper. We should be able to assign any player the captain armband just before a match or even during a match. I own a PS2 so in squad management....square is to assign the captain. Whilst playing a match and if I'm using Barcelona and Puyol is the captain.... I substitute him I want to assign the band to Ronaldinho or Xavi, but I can't. It would be nice if the armband could be changed around like how you implement the changes for taking a FK, CK and PK. The Armband To stay with the armband, I wonder if more details could be implemented with the armband. For example, Barcelona's armband is red & yellow stripes. Lyon and Real Madrid actually have their crests on the armband. If this is too much to do, at least make the armband different colours. I mean it is quite ridiculous using Manchester United away kit which happens to be white and the armband is white as well. The colours you use for finger tape and ankle tape could be used the armband. The Ultimate Question I look on teams like Valencia who should have Mario Reguiero of Uruguay and Atletico Madrid who should have Maniche of Portugal. These player are on the squad list for the country, but not their club team. Why is this so??? I mean the fact that they are in the game we should be able to put them on the club. If the developers miss out on putting players on a club but have them for the country give us the option to bring them to the club. Comments on Fifa 07 Manager Mode is excellent, much improved. The real currency adds to the authenticity of the game. The minor details of the nike emblem on jersey The dynamic weather is wonderful. To see you start a game and 15 mins into the match it begins to pour and you see it affects the field and how the ball moves along the pitch. I heard persons asking for snow and implement it to fall during the winter season. |
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FANS ONLY MOVE WHEN TEAM SCORES, INCLUDING AWAY FANS
PLAYERS CLAPPING THE CROWD, AND ALSO AWAY PLAYERS GOING OVER TO AWAY SUPPORTERS AND CLAPPING SEE THE SUBS COME OFF,THE 3RD OFFICIAL HOLDING THE BOARD UP ALSO THE ANNOUNCER SAYING THE PLAYER GOING OFF AND THE ONES COMING ON, AND ALSO CALLIN THE TEAMS OUT AT THE BEGGINING OF THE MATCH AND THE CROWD CHEERING EACH NAME DIFFERENT NETTING, LIKE LOWER LEAGUE CLUBS JUST HAVE THE LEANING NETS WHERE PREMIERSHIP HAVE THE TWO POLES BEHIND, DIFFERENT COLOURS ASWELL WEATHER EFFECTS, SNOW AND ALSO WIND, POSSIBLY FOG AND HAVE CITY OF MANCHESTER STADIUM ON OF COURSE
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Kick takers: You should be able to set who takes the throw-ins.
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shudnt we be approached by other clubs in manager mode
ok.nxt idea's a bit farfetched.wen we upgrade stadium,we can edit in anyway we want to.ie.not completely,but some tiers,corners etc.and a option for makin a new stadium for a club. and cant we change sponsors on the kits,after we change a sponsor ok leave that,at least editin a kit after everry 1-2 seasons |
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1. Err... unlockable boots, like in the World Cup 2006 game. Then created players would have the option to select those boots. But if it's not possible then it's all right.
2. Ability to change to positions of the player in formations manually. Then we can have a more variated formation. 3. Increased acceleration effect. This year's acceleration effect has improved, but I'd like to see some more difference between players with great acceleration and poor ones. That's all I can think of for now. |
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