Improvements For FIFA 08

[winstononions]

In manager mode i would like to see pre-season friendlies. Some leagues, like the Spanish, in fifa 07 start in September so you miss the transfer window but a pre-season fixture list would avoid this problem. Would allow your team to gel before the season starts and to experiment with players/formations. You could have perhaps 4 days allocated for friendlies and you would invite/be invited to play, who wants to play you depending on the prestige of your team. Could be in a single game friendly or perhaps a mini 4 team pre-season tournament kind of thing. Basically just an extension of kick-off mode and create a tournament mode but inside manager mode.

Be allowed to use practice mode also inside of manager mode. You buy new players you might want to test their abilities at free kicks etc.

More customisable formations, not just set ones. Should be able to tweak a players position on the pitch slightly to get him exactly where you want him, not just putting him in the general area. Missing formations like 3-2-3-2, 3-3-3-1 etc could be overcome by allowing you to select how many defenders you want, how many holding midfielders you want etc.

Would like to see in game goal flashes/alerts etc. For example in the ECC or EFA competitions when the group games are played simulaneously you may need a certain result to happen in the other game for your team to go through. Results from other games would flash up and a roar would go up around the stadium as the crowd reacts to the other game. This is the kind of excitment that fans experience in real life when they're watching their team but are hoping for results elsewhere. Also could be applied to league competitions in the last few weeks of the season and you're vying for the title or trying to stay up.
EDIT: when a goal is scored the group table showing how things stand at the moment could also show up.

In manager mode the Mexican, Brazilian and MLS leagues have very limited playability for people who don't really support a club from any of these countries - no offence meant to people who do support these teams by the way. Manager mode in these leagues basically consists of win the league and cup in a season or two then move on because there is nothing left to achieve or build for. To increase the playability of these leagues you seriously need to add maybe two teams from each South American country to the Rest of the World section so that there can be a Copa Libertadores competition in manager mode. This would enhance the playability of these leagues greatly by adding greater depth and variety. On the subject off adding teams there are a host of eastern european clubs who should be added to ROW aswell - Red Star, Kiev, Steau, Levski, CSKA are just a few very good clubs that deserve to be acknowledged. Would again give added variety to ECC and EFA competitions. I think you will find this request a lot when you go through this thread!

Another thing that people get annoyed about is the missing players and undone transfers when the game is released. I know there was a patch but when i (on the PS2) installed the roster update i was then unable to edit players. I had a choice between two features of the game - i could have updated squads but no editing capability or the ability to edit and have to update the squads manually and still be missing players. I should be able to do both, and not everyone has their PS2 hooked up online. To get around this there could be some sort of 'copy and paste' facility from international teams. For example i could be able to copy Sorin - missing this year from his club without the roster update - from the Argentina squad onto Hamburg so that he would then be on both squads. Players who are in the game only on their international team could then be allocated to a club team without the need to go online.

Goalkeepers are a bit better this year but not perfect. Sometimes, even on legendary difficulty, a long shot will be parried into the net by the keeper when it looks like it could easily have been caught. Keepers could be stickier when it comes to holding longer shots or they should punch more shots round the post or over the bar. I am glad that they do not seem to be knocking the ball out into the middle of the goal area straight to an attacker after a shot as often as they did in 06. This led to a cheap way of scoring last year.

Goals from crosses seem to be harder to score from. Thank you. In 06 it was way too easy to score from a crossed ball and i am glad this way of scoring requires much more skill.

The new manager mode features like the youth system, real money, realistic transfers were all good, greatly enhanced the game in my opinion. How about also being able to see results/tables/top scorer lists from leagues outside your own so you can see what players are on form etc to formulate transfer strategies? Perhaps also have the ability to offer a player plus cash or player swaps when conducting transfers?

There should be more controversy in the game. For instance the ball bounces down over the goal line and back out or is cleared by a defender from behind the line after a shot but the referees miss it and don't give the goal and vice versa for when a goal is given but all of the ball didn't cross the line. Also mistakes should happen in the offside rule. Players offside score and the goal is given etc. These things should also bring out a passionate reaction from the fans in the crowd. These things should happen in the game as in real life but should only happen only once in a while, not every game. Diving could also be introduced to the game. It would be a hard thing to time perfectly and to get away with and should be punished with a yellow card when spotted. EDIT: The player that dived to try and cheat could then be booed by opposition fans every time he touched the ball. Referees make mistakes and can be conned by players like this in real life and this human error factor should appear in the game.

More to follow...

[Joobieo]

Another one of my suggestions, is tone down the level of dribbling the offence can do the game is so one sided now its a little bit unrealstic.

[bobonam04]

I think we should actually see the subs warming up in a diferent screen like many baseball games. If they warmup too long. they get tired.They should have a bar. When warmep at just right, full energy and plays better! Could very improve the fans.

[SmartCanuck1988]

lol i just posted that idea then i took it out cuz the pics were too big ... here it is again (with resized pics)



I use ppt2007 to draw some diagrams .. and i thought i'd use it to present my ideas for FIFA


NOTE: This was originally "Cancel Subs & Player Warm-Up", but forget about the "Cancel Subs" thing since it's already in FIFA 07 -I made this before FIFA 07 came out.

The ability to warm-up bench players before they come on the field would be a really cool feature as it adds alot to realism as well as "strategy". It'll increase the feel of you being a manager of a team. If people don't like that idea, they can simply turn it off (as I'll explain later).


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Add an in-game indicator of the status of the players warming up .... user can hold SELECT for example and he sees the status. This will not interrupt the play so the user doesn't have to pause the game every time he needs to check if a sub is ready.

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Another thing I wanna mention is that if a player stays on the warm-up for too long after his energy level reaches 100%, he'll start to get tired. That will prevent managers from just putting random ppl on the warm-up and then subbing them whenever they need -which takes away from the "strategy" part.









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[mazinya]

1. like said before, i wanna be able to have the option to change the formation the way i want. so if for example i would want 4 strikers standing in a row, ill be able to do that and not just 2 strikers and another 2 beyond them etc.

2. When i play in cups and there are 2 legs, i wanna know how many goals i need if any so i can go to the next stage.

3. I want the goalkeeper to be more realistic and have a realistic AI. i dont want him to be a superman and i want to be able to score, but yet he has to be more realistic in his decisions.

4. When there is a national game for the country that i manage in its league, like this year, i wanna be able to manage and play the game and not just see the score after that. that would be fantastic if EA can do that.

5. More national teams and i wanna have some kind of competition or a challange that includs those teams.

6. In general, manager mode is great. If EA could make it with even more depth and add more featurs, that would be even greater.

7. It is not suppose to be that easy to win on WC difficulty so that has to change. and fatigue issue this year was exaggerated. fatigue is fine, but not dead tird players after 1 or 2 games.

8. when transfer window is closed, i wanna be able to see the last negotiation.

9. For penalties, add the power bar.

10. More celebrations after winning a cup or the league and better commentary.

11. Better AI for the rest of the team that i play with. I want them to be more active on the field and look for open spaces so i can pass them or give them a through ball. same goes for the defence- when i play on PR option, then want them to put more pressure on the ball and realy feel like there is a pressure(unlike now).

And SmartCanuck, your idea is great. EA should definitely add that.

thats it for.. ill think of more and add later if ill have

[bobonam04]

luv it! Maybe they could add ad screen actually doing teh warmup! U can see him running and jumping

[SmartCanuck1988]

Excellent ideas there winstononions & mazinya


@bobonam04: yep that's a great idea too ... maybe show a cutscene when the ball goes out of play (say a throw in) and they show the players warming up.



Excellent ideas guys


i'll post some more soon, just need to resize the damn pics --why cudnt we have a wider skin for crying out loud

[SmartCanuck1988]

*hopes somebody has posted before him so it's not a double-post* [EDIT: lalalala ]



Believe it or not everything (almost) I'll be mentioning here is possible to be edited on FIFA (for YEARS) by simply editing the database or using Creation Centre -so only PC users could do that.

You'll probably read this and say: "hey, you stole that from PES" ... Not really, this was in FIFA for years like I said, and IMO it should be in-game so that console users can enjoy those editing abilities.

You'll also say: "Why not just copy PES's editor?" ... IMO, it's a waste of time. You'll see that the options you can already edit on FIFA are alot already. I have WE9 (so it's not like I live under a rock ) and I have used the Team Editor there and IMO (just IMO) it's "too much" ... if you're gonna use that detailed Editor, might as well use a much better tool (photoshop for example) and save kits and stuff on option files. I'm just being realistic here, FIFA has no Team Editor and they can improve it later on, but at least add a basic one for now then argue on how to improve it later.

Here's my theory (I'm using Kits as an example): There are different types of people ....
A. people who want 50-60% accuracy for their created/edited teams (just get the right colours on the kits and almost the right shirt style .. maybe the right font as well) ...
B. people who want 80-90% accuracy (get the kit very accurate .. but will ignore details like the logo is 2cm off to the left, or the font size is 1 or 2pts off ... maybe not even the same exact shade of colour -but still have several options of shades) ....
C. people who want 99%-100% accuracy ... will not accept anything but perfect!

IMO, the FIFA Editor will give you around 80-85% accuracy ... while the current WE9 editor will give you 95%

So, both editors will satisfy "people A" and "people B" ... "people C" will just go with making the kits on photoshop and get them exactly right, and then import them into the game.

So my theory is: why waste the time/effort on making the editor accuracy increase from 80% to 95%, if it will still satisfy the same group of people ... group C will never be satisfied, that's just reality. Maybe you can work on making the editor 95% accurate later on (when you have nothing better to do lol), but as a first step, get to 80%.


Anyways, I'll stop it with my theories now .... here's the "Team Editor" -which also used for Create-A-Team. I'll talk a bit more about Create-A-Team later on, but basically (when you're creating a team), the first steps will be entering basic information and choosing kits and stuff.. so the first few steps of Create-A-Team are identical (more or less) to the "Team Editor"


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[LilPancho86]

There should be more real player faces... If the FIFA series could be improved to add more realism, then there should be more dedication to make not just a handful of real faces, but loads of them...

The players who play for leagues not in the game should be in a 'free agent' list, so that we may edit and/or transfer him... It's a pain not being able to actually 'use' players like Jose Cardozo, Jared Borgetti, etc...

Add more international teams...

Allow an infinite number of player edits... and make the edit feature more useful, so that we can edit player body type, hair color/type, facial hair, etc...

[nurran0698]

Rename this thread "Liverpool freaks"

[ethosgfc11]

we need the game to cover the world eg we need the a-league which is the autralian league heaps of stars. and africa and asia.

[rikhermenss]

- Netherland!

- More competitions in Interactive League

-Something like Training Missions, where you learn some tricks and free kicks. Now we have to look the tricks on internet.

- And maybe make the post a bit smaller (not very important )

[winstononions]

SmartCanuck, I like your idea about warming up players on the subs bench. Gives you more to think about as a manager which can only enhance the game.

Perhaps you could also send out your subs to warm up at half time if you plan on making a substitution at the start of the 2nd half.

Also maybe the fans could influence the energy levels of players warming up? If you have a player warming up who has not been playing well in recent weeks and has a low average match rating then the fans could get on his back about this while he is warming up. This would affect his morale level and mean it will take longer for him to get his energy levels up. The opposite would happen for players who are playing well and are idolised by the fans – they would receive praise from the fans as they warmed up and their morale would be higher, allowing their energy levels to increase more rapidly.

[WanDerSar]

I want
- more balcanian teams (SLOVENIAN TEAM!!!!)
- lot's more stadiums
- more animations (more different), when player get inyured the medics come with medical kit and take him away with strechers or even "golf" cars when they have them
- better graphic
- better AI
- more, more realistic crowd (more chants,flags,more real..)
- when you choose on manager mode 1st season with Chelsea or any other good club, then in the 2nd season you can't take good clubs?? You should be able to took any club you want in anytime
- i play on amateur and i wanna have full stadium of people not 20000 (On Bernabeu) but 80000.
- when your player is substituted it should show the animation anytime not just when you foul or ball goes to out, but also iof there is a corner or goal kick
- superstar modes (like in fifa 06, nhl 07, nba 06&07)
- easier driblings
- mini games
- preseason games (on manager mode)
- i want too see manager on the pitch (i want him moving, screamin on players, jumping, crying or even kicking bottles of water
- i also want too see players training next to the line
This is what I want and I would like you to write if you like this or not!!??

[thuda1991]

- better knowledge about teams (lineup, bench) from smaller leagues (like Denmark only one team (lalala) has their basic lineup as basic lineup in the game)

- all transfers in the game

- Holland

- more real faces

- pre-season friendlies

- training mode in manager mode

[SmartCanuck1988]

Originally Posted by winstononions

SmartCanuck, I like your idea about warming up players on the subs bench. Gives you more to think about as a manager which can only enhance the game.

Perhaps you could also send out your subs to warm up at half time if you plan on making a substitution at the start of the 2nd half.

Also maybe the fans could influence the energy levels of players warming up? If you have a player warming up who has not been playing well in recent weeks and has a low average match rating then the fans could get on his back about this while he is warming up. This would affect his morale level and mean it will take longer for him to get his energy levels up. The opposite would happen for players who are playing well and are idolised by the fans – they would receive praise from the fans as they warmed up and their morale would be higher, allowing their energy levels to increase more rapidly.

interesting stuff ... i like the effect of fans on morale and shud give even more realism in the game (and ultimately more things to consider as a manager so its not the throw-any-player-in style of play).

[Adzsouthorn2004]

You're thinking Fifa 2107 here

If Fifa do ever decide to have warm up, it'll probably be automatic, so you don't control it but sometimes you could see animated players running up the touchline and the longer they're on the bench the more tired they get.

But I'm all for having all that technical jargle in the next game, if they so put it in then yippeeeeeee

[SmartCanuck1988]

Originally Posted by Adzsouthorn2004

You're thinking Fifa 2107 here

If Fifa do ever decide to have warm up, it'll probably be automatic, so you don't control it but sometimes you could see animated players running up the touchline and the longer they're on the bench the more tired they get.

But I'm all for having all that technical jargle in the next game, if they so put it in then yippeeeeeee

well its better to propose the idea now so they can look at it and try to implement it

plus the "concept" is kinda easy ... instead of having subs with energy level at max, you start at zero .. and then u put a sub in "warmup" status and his energy starts to increase, u take him out of "warmup" status and his energy increase stops and then starts to fall slowly.

thats pretty much it. (with the addition of showing a cutscene (like any cutscene of say a goal celebration) when the ball is out of play).

[Adzsouthorn2004]

Yeah but how many times have easy ideas that would give a massive boost to an EA game happened, well it's quite rare, the ideas great though, and yeah I supposed if it's hyped up alot on here they could fit it in.

I think there's major issues to be put forward from the fifa07 next gen game though instead, not league wise but still gameplay wise. It never gave me a controlling feel. If that's all well and done then they should definately try and put warm ups in 09

[SmartCanuck1988]

Originally Posted by Adzsouthorn2004

Yeah but how many times have easy ideas that would give a massive boost to an EA game happened, well it's quite rare, the ideas great though, and yeah I supposed if it's hyped up alot on here they could fit it in.

I think there's major issues to be put forward from the fifa07 next gen game though instead, not league wise but still gameplay wise. It never gave me a controlling feel. If that's all well and done then they should definately try and put warm ups in 09

again, there's nothing wrong with proposing any idea no matter how complicated or "big" it sounds ... if we all just say: "oh no chance EA is adding this next year", then such ideas will never be proposed.

EA added a big feature like Interactive Leagues to FIFA 07, but they still managed to improve the gameplay alot and made it less scripted and its more enjoyable than before. So I don't see why EA can't do the same for next year or future years.

[graham198125]

What a mess about all that warm up stuff sounds, leave it out!!!

[Fifafan730]

Exeter City/The Conference.

Sort out create a team kits so you can customise the colour of the names on the back of the shirts.

4-1-3-2 formation.

[graham198125]

you can customise name and numner colour cant you?

[SmartCanuck1988]

Originally Posted by graham198125

What a mess about all that warm up stuff sounds, leave it out!!!

Which is exactly why i said to add an option to enable it or disable it. Over the few years that I've been on these forums, many people thought about player warm-ups and many people would love to see this feature in the game. But of course (like i said in my post) not everyone will like it and then they can just turn it off in Game Settings

[Fifafan730]

Originally Posted by graham198125

you can customise name and numner colour cant you?

For created kits both home and away on my ps2 game you can only chance the colour of the number. The name is orange.