Ennlish Players OVER RATED!!!!!!!!!

[shelton1992]

Originally Posted by todda07-skate

ROONEY IS FOOTBALL!!

when Rooney plays he changes games - at both ends
he is much more than some flooky fast footed toe poker.

hmmm he changes game right well where was rooney in the game against burnley which his team lost 1-0 where was rooney in the game against ukraine in the 2010qualifiers and where was rooney in the champions league final against barcelona he does change game waw
and for me the best league for me is italian league not premier league because in italy the top4 our 5 is not the same team there is more challenge everyteam there is hard even teams like bari can beat inter juve etc they almost beat inter by the way and if you see in italy you never see score like 5-0 6-1 etc in england look man u 5-0 wigan that my opinion and italy they defend better there hard to score even team like juve will get hard agianst bari reggina etc no easy matches in italy you never know wat will happen in premier league always the same top4 man u chelsea arsenal liverpool maybe man city this year these will be the top4-5 and in england for example man u vs wigan you know man u will win not to much challenge for the top4-5 that my opinion please no bashing

[MaximumSOCCER]

I believe that the Premier League (and the other top leagues too) is overrated in FIFA..
Why do every player coming from a lesser league always get such a huge OVR boost just by moving to a Premier League club?

Caicedo's ovr was in the low 60s before he moved to City, then he suddenly got 72 OVR without playing any games...
Same thing with Bosingwa and Elm. Bosingwa had about 75 OVR before he moved to Chelsea, when he moved he directly got about 80 OVR. Elm had 65 OVR before he moved to Fulham, now he has 70 (which he shouldn't be close to, he hasn't played one single game...).
Vermaelen had about 75 OVR in 09, he'll probably have around 83 after the Winter Update..

Same thing happens when players move from a top league/club go to a lesser league/club.
Pantelic had 80/81 OVR at Hertha Berlin, then he moved to Ajax and now he has 78 OVR... how long would Sol Campbell keep his 78 OVR if he would have stayed at Notts County? I'm sure it would be in the low 70s after the Winter Update..

[virusman]

Originally Posted by shelton92

hmmm he changes game right well where was rooney in the game against burnley which his team lost 1-0 where was rooney in the game against ukraine in the 2010qualifiers and where was rooney in the champions league final against barcelona he does change game waw
and for me the best league for me is italian league not premier league because in italy the top4 our 5 is not the same team there is more challenge everyteam there is hard even teams like bari can beat inter juve etc they almost beat inter by the way and if you see in italy you never see score like 5-0 6-1 etc in england look man u 5-0 wigan that my opinion and italy they defend better there hard to score even team like juve will get hard agianst bari reggina etc no easy matches in italy you never know wat will happen in premier league always the same top4 man u chelsea arsenal liverpool maybe man city this year these will be the top4-5 and in england for example man u vs wigan you know man u will win not to much challenge for the top4-5 that my opinion please no bashing

Hold on as you just stated man utd lost to burnley but yet later on your saying that you know who would win over man utd and wigan im sure you would of said that about man utd and burnley before that match so you just canceled out your point about knowing who would win against the big 4 clubs and the other clubs.

Maybe (this is my opinion) the reason why sometimes we get high scores in games is because EPL plays football alot faster then Italian League so it would be alot harder to defend against then the Italian league.

[shelton1992]

wait wait virusman the game that i was talking about man u lost 1-0 was the say that rooney is not so good as the other guy said before that he said change game at both read before you post my friend fast paced our no fast paced italy is better then england in italy no team are easy to beat every team there is hard that wat i mean so i prefer to watch a leaque where there challenge no 6-0 games

[virusman]

Originally Posted by shelton92

wait wait virusman the game that i was talking about man u lost 1-0 was the say that rooney is not so good as the other guy said before that he said change game at both read before you post my friend fast paced our no fast paced italy is better then england in italy no team are easy to beat every team there is hard that wat i mean so i prefer to watch a leaque where there challenge no 6-0 games

I know you was talking about Rooney but im just stating the point about you saying you know who would win when you come up against the top 4 when before when you was talking about man utd what is a top 4 club losing to a lower club so that should just show you that you wont know the outcome when a club comes up against the top 4 clubs.
I would prefer the English Spanish and German leagues better then the Italian league just because i don't like slow football i like passing football with speed.
FYI this season in the EPL has become the highest scoring season so far that's why your seeing the high amount of goals but matches aint really that high scoring usually.
I understand what your saying and the main problem with the EPL is that its always the same clubs in the top 4 but i can guarantee that in 1 or 2 more years it is going to change.

[Super-manc]

Originally Posted by DeadlyBenzema

Has Rooney ever done skills?

You don't know what skills are, if someone showed you a video of George Best or Diego Maradona you'd probably think Alexis Sanchez had more skills, silly rainbow flicks and juggling tricks are just party pieces put in the game for little kids.

[shelton1992]

ok virusman everyone has his taste is good that you like fast paced not that i dont like it i watch serie a spansih league and premier league here in my country i love wacthing alot of football games but i like the italian league i dont actually worry alot with pace our style i just like it that in italy serie a the teams there even small team give big clubs a challenge look inter lost 1-0 to sampdoria bari draw newly promote to serie a they draw with inter and ac milan palermo who is in the bottom table beat juventus a big club 2-0 i like that there challenge in the league in england high score no challenge small club get beaten alot look burnley tottenham 6-1 our sometime like that

[novaats]

Ea are so biased

Quoted for inacuracy. The premier league teams have absolutely dominated the champions league in the last few years so it's deserved.

Rooney 87 Villa 87

Villa is overrated here as far as I'm concerned as for me he's nowhere near Torres. Rooney's rating here is ok for me as he's not at the level of the best players in the world currently.

A Young 84 Gourcouff 85

Both overrated for me there. Young is unproven and sporadic, Gourcouff is fine as the big fish in the little pond but he couldn't make it on the big stage - maybe he will given time but that's what's happened so far.

Douglas Costa 2 stars???

He's totally unproven as he's playing in a vastly sub-par league and has even had limited games for the first team. Which is why United balked at the ridiculous asking price. Not all "next big things" work out - see Kerlon.

Rooney 5 stars

Got something personal against Rooney? Just Google for interviews of other players regarding Rooney and you will see how highly thought of he is in the game.

SORT IT OUT

How about watch some football outside of Youtube, or maybe even go to some games and get a clue about football in the real world.

[1nsan1ty91]

Villa is overrated here as far as I'm concerned as for me he's nowhere near Torres. Rooney's rating here is ok for me as he's not at the level of the best players in the world currently.


haha, no where near Torres, he's better than Torres.

[chadov]

im not degrading rooney's skills but he's no where near being better than villa, just under IMO, plus i dont think ratings actually state which player is better as they apply on seperate attributes so rooney and villa are fine as long as villa is a better finisher

young and gourcuff i agree, gourcuff is top class

Originally Posted by virusman

Englands first 11 players are all based in england so i dont kno what your talking about.
actually all of the england squad but 1 is based in england shame it took you so long to reply back to your own thread and you failed.

but you have to admit, per team, you rarely see any english players in the starting 11, especially in the top ones. plus in the national team they take a max of 4 english out of every team because that all that team has, in italy every team has atleast 5 italians in the starting 11, that is if you dont count merdazzurri scum

[Epic_Red]

look at the attributes and work it out and i think Fifa did the skill stars on some players who are fast so that means they would have quick feet what would enable them to do 5 star moves im not sure though.
Yes but how the lalalala can agbonlahor and rooney do them yet gourcuff cant!

It is bias in some aspects though not all but I do agree that agbonlahor should be in the late 70's because up until recentley he had barely scored. I also feel its disgracefull that rooney gets the same rating as villa given that villa is probably the best striker in the world.

[virusman]

Originally Posted by chadov

im not degrading rooney's skills but he's no where near being better than villa, just under IMO, plus i dont think ratings actually state which player is better as they apply on seperate attributes so rooney and villa are fine as long as villa is a better finisher

young and gourcuff i agree, gourcuff is top class



but you have to admit, per team, you rarely see any english players in the starting 11, especially in the top ones. plus in the national team they take a max of 4 english out of every team because that all that team has, in italy every team has atleast 5 italians in the starting 11, that is if you dont count merdazzurri scum

If you think about it its only really the big 4 clubs what dont have that much Englishmen and i can even say out of the top for clubs its only like 2 of them who aint really got that much English players in there squad(Arsenal and Liverpool) but the other 18 clubs has a few English players (more then 5) plus next year there is going to be a quota on how much English bass players you have to have in your squad.

Originally Posted by shelton92

ok virusman everyone has his taste is good that you like fast paced not that i dont like it i watch serie a spansih league and premier league here in my country i love wacthing alot of football games but i like the italian league i dont actually worry alot with pace our style i just like it that in italy serie a the teams there even small team give big clubs a challenge look inter lost 1-0 to sampdoria bari draw newly promote to serie a they draw with inter and ac milan palermo who is in the bottom table beat juventus a big club 2-0 i like that there challenge in the league in england high score no challenge small club get beaten alot look burnley tottenham 6-1 our sometime like that

Yh i agree with you on that but you can look at it as being the Italian league is weak thats why most of the teams can challenge your big clubs or you can look at it as the Italian league being strong because every club has a chance of beating the bigger clubs but it all depends on how you look at it but i agree with you about the gap between the top clubs and the bottom clubs are big.

[Epic_Red]

Originally Posted by novaats

Quoted for inacuracy. The premier league teams have absolutely dominated the champions league in the last few years so it's deserved.



Villa is overrated here as far as I'm concerned as for me he's nowhere near Torres. Rooney's rating here is ok for me as he's not at the level of the best players in the world currently.

As for gourcuff If that big fish in a small pond thing was true then he wouldnt be playing so well for the national team would he?

Both overrated for me there. Young is unproven and sporadic, Gourcouff is fine as the big fish in the little pond but he couldn't make it on the big stage - maybe he will given time but that's what's happened so far.



He's totally unproven as he's playing in a vastly sub-par league and has even had limited games for the first team. Which is why United balked at the ridiculous asking price. Not all "next big things" work out - see Kerlon.



Got something personal against Rooney? Just Google for interviews of other players regarding Rooney and you will see how highly thought of he is in the game.



How about watch some football outside of Youtube, or maybe even go to some games and get a clue about football in the real world.

Id just say that villa is not overated, hes the best striker in the world and has a far better goal to game ration than rooney at both club and national level.

[Strange Pirate]

I think Rooney is as good as Villa and what 3-4 years younger than him?

[Epic_Red]

Originally Posted by Strange Pirate

I think Rooney is as good as Villa and what 3-4 years younger than him?

Well when rooney can go on near a 30 game scoring streak then he may be better.

[parraboi1]

I don't think the EPL is over-rated, tho i will say that some players and whole leagues are not rated accurately.

I think the problem is the fact that other leagues aren't looked at closely enough, a premier league player might have his ratings changed every month on data base whereas a player playing in the Polish league might only have his stats changed once or twice in the lead up to launch.

Fact is the Premier league is the centre piece of the game and probably club football therefor unless a player proves he is better than some in the EPL he will not be rated higher, something a premier league player doesn't have to do to be rated higher than a player from a lesser league.