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Old 11-09-2009, 07:53 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Here's mine

Keepers

Van der Sar 84
Foster 80
Kuszczak 76

Defenders

Neville 77
Ferdinand 87
Vidic 88
Evra 83/84 (84/85 when LWB)
Evans 80
Brown 80/81 (including at RB)
O'Shea 79
Rafael 74 (75 at RWB)
Fabio (74 at LWB)

Midfielders

Nani 81 (82 at LW/RW)
Valencia 82 (83 at RW)
Scholes 83 (lowish pace, tackling and stamina but his passing will be a great asset in this game )
Carrick 83 (again, his passing will make him very useful)
Anderson 82 (81 at CM)
Giggs 81 (even at CM), similar pace to Scholes, but his technique and experience will make him still very useful
Park 80 (improve his defensive skills! last game they were in the 50s )
Gibson 73 (good long shots, plenty of potential to be an 80ish player)
Fletcher 83 (at CDM or CM)
Hargreaves 82 (83 at CDM) (Live Season will make him lower)

Forwards

Rooney 87 (88 at CF/LF/RF)
Berbatov 85 (same at CF, 84 at CAM)
Owen 80 (79 at CF)
Welbeck 75
Macheda 75 (different attributes and strengths/weaknesses compared to Welbeck)
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Old 11-09-2009, 07:56 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Fletcher 81? I just don't get it.
Ah well... 80/81

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No way is Foster 80 nor Scholes 82. Scholes should be 79 and Foster 76.
Scholes 79?? Scholes 83/84
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87 - Wayne ROONEY
87 - Nemanja VIDIC
86 - Dimitar BERBATOV
86 - Edwin VAN DER SAR
86 - Rio FERDINAND
85 - Patrice EVRA
84 - Ryan GIGGS
83 - Paul SCHOLES
83 - Michael CARRICK
82 - Darren FLETCHER
82 - Owen HARGREAVES
82 - ANDERSON
82 - NANI
82 - Antonio VALENCIA
80 - Michael OWEN
79 - Wes BROWN
79 - Jonny EVANS
79 - John O'SHEA
78 - Ji Sung PARK
78 - Gary NEVILLE
78 - Ben FOSTER
76 - Tomasz KUSZCZAK
76 - RAFAEL
76 - FABIO
74 - Darron GIBSON
73 - Danny WELBECK
73 - Federico MACHEDA
73 - Ritchie DE LAET
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Most of you have over-rated most of your team.

With non red tinted glasses on this is how your team should be rated.

Van der Sar 84
Foster 74
Kuszczak 76

Defenders

Neville 77
Ferdinand 85
Vidic 88
Evra 84
Evans 79
Brown 79
O'Shea 79
Rafael 76
Fabio 76

Midfielders

Nani 79
Valencia 80
Scholes 82
Carrick 83
Anderson 81
Giggs 83
Park 77
Fletcher 82
Hargreaves ? (he's been out so long, not sure what he'll be like when he returns)

Forwards

Rooney 87
Berbatov 84
Owen 79

I think i've been fair.
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Old 27-10-2009, 11:40 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I think your low ratings for Foster, Ferdinand, Nani and Berbatov are media-driven opinions and not based upon actually watching them.
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I think your low ratings for Foster, Ferdinand, Nani and Berbatov are media-driven opinions and not based upon actually watching them.
I really don't rate Foster, last year United fans where raving about him replacing VDS this season or next after a few decent performances, and given the chance this season he's failed miserably. He was even shaky tonight against Barnsly. For me he hasn't done anything to warrant a high rating.

Ferdinand's rating might be harsh, but thats for his performances this season and the end of last, he's looked like a shadow of his former self and to be honest with the way he's been playing 85 is a generous rating. (Note that i don't think there's been any stand out defensive performances from any teams this season and Ferdinand is still one of the better defenders in the league, but he's no where near as dominant as he used to be.)

I've always thought Berbatov was over rated and since he's joined United he hasn't really put in any world class performances, justified his transfer fee or scored enough goals. I also don't think him and Rooney are a good partnership up front, there's a statistic that they've only created a single goal for each other this season.
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Old 28-10-2009, 01:41 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I really don't rate Foster, last year United fans where raving about him replacing VDS this season or next after a few decent performances, and given the chance this season he's failed miserably. He was even shaky tonight against Barnsly. For me he hasn't done anything to warrant a high rating.

Ferdinand's rating might be harsh, but thats for his performances this season and the end of last, he's looked like a shadow of his former self and to be honest with the way he's been playing 85 is a generous rating. (Note that i don't think there's been any stand out defensive performances from any teams this season and Ferdinand is still one of the better defenders in the league, but he's no where near as dominant as he used to be.)

I've always thought Berbatov was over rated and since he's joined United he hasn't really put in any world class performances, justified his transfer fee or scored enough goals. I also don't think him and Rooney are a good partnership up front, there's a statistic that they've only created a single goal for each other this season.
Van der Sar is the second best 'keeper in United's history, of course Foster isn't expected to replace him just like that. I think Foster is one of the league's best shot-stoppers and his distribution is great, but he's made lots of blunders this season... but he's young and with experience he might be able to iron out those mistakes. Also he's English... I don't like having too many foreign players in the squad, don't want to end up like Liverpool or Arsenal.

I think the season before last Rio was probably the best defender in the world. Then he started struggling with back injuries and he's been unable to get a decent run in the team alongside Vidic to get his form back. Perhaps if he doesn't regain his form before the next update in February, a drop to 85 would be deserved, and 84 in the summer. But that's just pessimistic.

Personally I think Berbatov is underrated, everyone criticises him for being lazy, etc... he covered the fourth most distance in the United squad last season (yet his stamina on FIFA is something like 61). His passing is fantastic, he holds up the ball really well and creates lots of chances for others, has been productive in that sense so far this season. And of course his first touch is possibly the best in the league. Unless he goes on to win that Ballon D'or or something, he'll never justify his transfer fee and he will always get criticism for that. I admit, his finishing isn't what I thought it was, but then how many chances does he actually get? Not many at all. He makes the runs and gets in what look to be good positions but I guess he doesn't have that goalscorer's instinct. I do think he's United quality, and worthy of an 85+ rating; there are still question marks over whether he's the right type of player for United's style of play but still think he can fit in.
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My personal ratings:

VDS: 85
O'Shea: 80
Ferdinand: 85
Vidic: 86 (I'm gonna get hell for this one)
Evra: 83 RB (85 RWB)
Valencia: 81
Scholes: 83
Carrick: 83
Nani: 80
Berbatov: 86
Rooney: 87

Giggs: 82
Park: 79
Anderson: 81 CM/CAM
Brown: 80
Owen: 79 (high finishing, lowish skill)
Foster: 75 (No better than Dudek, Fabianski, Benaglio, Asenjo, etc.)
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Van der Sar is the second best 'keeper in United's history, of course Foster isn't expected to replace him just like that. I think Foster is one of the league's best shot-stoppers and his distribution is great, but he's made lots of blunders this season... but he's young and with experience he might be able to iron out those mistakes. Also he's English... I don't like having too many foreign players in the squad, don't want to end up like Liverpool or Arsenal.

I think the season before last Rio was probably the best defender in the world. Then he started struggling with back injuries and he's been unable to get a decent run in the team alongside Vidic to get his form back. Perhaps if he doesn't regain his form before the next update in February, a drop to 85 would be deserved, and 84 in the summer. But that's just pessimistic.

Personally I think Berbatov is underrated, everyone criticises him for being lazy, etc... he covered the fourth most distance in the United squad last season (yet his stamina on FIFA is something like 61). His passing is fantastic, he holds up the ball really well and creates lots of chances for others, has been productive in that sense so far this season. And of course his first touch is possibly the best in the league. Unless he goes on to win that Ballon D'or or something, he'll never justify his transfer fee and he will always get criticism for that. I admit, his finishing isn't what I thought it was, but then how many chances does he actually get? Not many at all. He makes the runs and gets in what look to be good positions but I guess he doesn't have that goalscorer's instinct. I do think he's United quality, and worthy of an 85+ rating; there are still question marks over whether he's the right type of player for United's style of play but still think he can fit in.
Yet funilly enough he was bought to score goals and there is only rooney doing that at the moment.

If the villa rumours are true then its good for them as it beens the can shift berbaflop.
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Van der Sar is the second best 'keeper in United's history, of course Foster isn't expected to replace him just like that. I think Foster is one of the league's best shot-stoppers and his distribution is great, but he's made lots of blunders this season... but he's young and with experience he might be able to iron out those mistakes.
He's 26.
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Berbatov is massively overrated, 90 finishing, what the hell?????????????

should have about 85 finishing, if that to be honest, i don't get it what has he done to get 90 finishing.
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Berbatov is massively overrated, 90 finishing, what the hell?????????????

should have about 85 finishing, if that to be honest, i don't get it what has he done to get 90 finishing.
the odd fancy flick every 10 games or so. Probably rated by a bias manc as the whole squad lookes overated to me.
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He's 26.
Van der Sar's 39.

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Berbatov is massively overrated, 90 finishing, what the hell?????????????

should have about 85 finishing, if that to be honest, i don't get it what has he done to get 90 finishing.
His finishing is good, he just did't get a lot of chances to finish last season. 90 is possibly too high based on last season alone. But attributes aren't based on one season.

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the odd fancy flick every 10 games or so. Probably rated by a bias manc as the whole squad lookes overated to me.
They're apparently rated by some German who by his ratings appears to not even watch our games. And they would look overrated to you. Because YOU'RE biased.
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One shocking stat on it is Anderson's finishing..

It's like 54 or something along those lines.. I know he hasn't score many at all but it doesn't mean he's inept when it comes to finishing..

I find playing, Carrick, Giggs & Scholes in the middle of the park a treat.. not much pace but their positioning/passing is top stuff.
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Fletcher is underrated, Rooney has no pace in teh game its pathetic, Evra is underrated and not enough strenght/aggression. I think that is the main concerns right now for this fifa 10 along with VDS being underrated. He won goalie of hte year and drops from an 85 to 83? oh btw, 21 games without a goal or was it 22?
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One shocking stat on it is Anderson's finishing..

It's like 54 or something along those lines.. I know he hasn't score many at all but it doesn't mean he's inept when it comes to finishing..

I find playing, Carrick, Giggs & Scholes in the middle of the park a treat.. not much pace but their positioning/passing is top stuff.

who do you play on hte wings? Valencia seems USELESS in this game and Nani can't shoot for lalalala.

I go default 4/2/2 and I have problems with Berbatov's speed and the Wing players. Those are my main problem with Man U in this game, I can't find a good combo in those spots.
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My advice to the above poster: speed and strength aren't everything, otherwise Paul Scholes would be useless. Try to be more creative in possession. And regarding Valencia, I wouldn't say any player in FIFA is useless. A player is only as useless as the person pressing the buttons on the controller.

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One shocking stat on it is Anderson's finishing..

I find playing, Carrick, Giggs & Scholes in the middle of the park a treat.. not much pace but their positioning/passing is top stuff.
Yeah I don't think Ando's right at all... too lightweight IMO. Shielding the ball with his huge ar*e is a big part of his game in real life and it's harder to do in-game.

That formation is good, Scholes and Carrick deeper and Giggsy AM, but only against weaker opposition. I need Fletcher or Hargreaves against the big teams to break things up. Liverpool used to be my bogie team on FIFA but now I play a deep 433 and play on the counter. Still manage to get majority possession.
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One shocking stat on it is Anderson's finishing..

It's like 54 or something along those lines.. I know he hasn't score many at all but it doesn't mean he's inept when it comes to finishing..

I find playing, Carrick, Giggs & Scholes in the middle of the park a treat.. not much pace but their positioning/passing is top stuff.
Ando has had plenty of chances to open his account earlier in his United career but screwed them all up, and he does lack confidence in front of goal hence his poor finishing rating. If he took his chances better in real life then you accuse his rating as being bad.
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who do you play on hte wings? Valencia seems USELESS in this game and Nani can't shoot for lalalala.

I go default 4/2/2 and I have problems with Berbatov's speed and the Wing players. Those are my main problem with Man U in this game, I can't find a good combo in those spots.
I play atm;

Van Der Sar
Hargreaves Ferdinand Vidic Evra
Carrick
Giggs Scholes
Nani Berbatov Rooney

This is with Barca's 4-3-3, but Carrick as a CDM & not a CM.. with Giggs being the deeper of the two CM's.. as he's got more pace and strength compared to Scholes, so he's more of a box-to-box player for me, with Scholes just drifting in the middle.

Sometimes I feel like I'm wasting Rooney on the left, but I find Berbatov's quality on the game so it's the only place I can fit him in.

I sometimes play 4-2-3-1 when I'm playing my friend who uses 4-3-3 well, but find it doesn't seem to suite United too well, but in that instance I play;

Van Der Sar
Hargreaves Ferdinand Vidic Evra
Carrick Fletcher
Giggs Rooney Anderson
Berbatov
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I play atm;

Van Der Sar
Hargreaves Ferdinand Vidic Evra
Carrick
Giggs Scholes
Nani Berbatov Rooney

This is with Barca's 4-3-3, but Carrick as a CDM & not a CM.. with Giggs being the deeper of the two CM's.. as he's got more pace and strength compared to Scholes, so he's more of a box-to-box player for me, with Scholes just drifting in the middle.

Sometimes I feel like I'm wasting Rooney on the left, but I find Berbatov's quality on the game so it's the only place I can fit him in.

I sometimes play 4-2-3-1 when I'm playing my friend who uses 4-3-3 well, but find it doesn't seem to suite United too well, but in that instance I play;

Van Der Sar
Hargreaves Ferdinand Vidic Evra
Carrick Fletcher
Giggs Rooney Anderson
Berbatov
TO get Barca's 4/3/3 do you go into edit and try to get the players positions and direcitn tehy run (the arrows) the same urself or u can literally use the Barca 4/3/3 like u can in madden using a different formation or playbook.
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TO get Barca's 4/3/3 do you go into edit and try to get the players positions and direcitn tehy run (the arrows) the same urself or u can literally use the Barca 4/3/3 like u can in madden using a different formation or playbook.
I go into Barca on the Team Management page, go to their formation, and edit their default formation.

I move the deeper of the three CM's to a CDM, then I save it as a custom formation.

Then I go to the United page, and set their formation as custom 4-3-3.
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that worked thanks man! u have no idea the lalalala i would do to get this done loll it would take at least 25 min the way i did i tbefore .
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Im being realistic here Fletcher wont be higher than Scholes, I just cant see EA doing that... Valencia maybe 1 or 2 higher yes and unfortunately Rooney never seems to get above 87

Overall, minor differences here and there.
His overall was 91 or 93 in FIFA 06 or 07
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His finishing is good, he just did't get a lot of chances to finish last season. 90 is possibly too high based on last season alone. But attributes aren't based on one season.



They're apparently rated by some German who by his ratings appears to not even watch our games. And they would look overrated to you. Because YOU'RE biased.
haha lol. Im probably one of the least bias reds out there. Look at the squad anderson 80? berbaflop 85 or is it 86? rooney 87? o'shea 80?

Hows that not overated, anderson is the understated flop of the club a new kleberson if you like, berbatov is like the striking equivalent of juan sebastian veron a few good touches and pieces of genuis but all in all a player that falls short. Now dont get me wrong rooneys a great striker but as good as villa (who went on a 20game national scoring streak) and better than forlan (who was the pichichi YET AGAIN) please.
And john oshea, good utility player but has zero talent yet he gets the same rating as glen johnson (im pretty sure john is 80, if not then im sorry).
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