Is C. Ronaldo better than Rooney?

[trluk2k]

Agreed. He's like Banel Nicolita from Romania's national team (not class, but he is the second in the top of distance run/match at Euro till now): a guy who works hard, sacrifices himself, helps in defence, runs all the time... even though he is supposed to do other things. and is not about what his coach is asking from him, it's about what he can offer in matter of football skills

[Keating]

Originally Posted by Adam11111

Rooney sucks OK.

The English media found that talking about Owen was pointless now so they switched to Rooney. He is class. but there are at least 50 players in the world better than him.

YOUR A *iCK HeAD

[Miguel]

I'm a die-hard United fan, and have been all my life.
Even i admit that Ronaldo is a greedy, obnoxious little girl
I hope he goes to Real Madrid. Give a chance for other players to shine. You watch. WHEN Ronaldo goes, Rooney will be amazing.

[amenrah73]

Originally Posted by Mattius6969

I'm a die-hard United fan, and have been all my life.
Even i admit that Ronaldo is a greedy, obnoxious little girl
I hope he goes to Real Madrid. Give a chance for other players to shine. You watch. WHEN Ronaldo goes, Rooney will be amazing.

Rooney will have to be. But what if he's not?


What say you then?


Nobody has explained why they feel Rooney is better. Have you noticed? No facts, no goal comparison (he is a striker right), no real tagible reason.
But even speaking of Rooney, people that don't like Ronaldo just bash Ronoldo istead of providing evidence to explain why he's an inferior player.


The truth hurts.

[Keating]

He will be.He's so good,have any of you actually seen him play?

[amenrah73]

Originally Posted by Keating

He will be.He's so good,have any of you actually seen him play?

I have seen Rooney play a myriad of times. I see someone who had to learn to share the ball, since he was innately a ball hogger himself.


He's brash, hot headed, and not composed in pressure. He plays hard, but in a sport of required finesse, he's a bull in a china shop.

Rooney is to much British football instead of being a World Class Player. Laser shot and grit is great, but what happens when you have to out maneuver and out think your opponant? What happens to Rooney's game then?

And after several foot injuries, he isn't as fast- so what happens when all the physical gifts he started with begin fading...his ability to use his brain without emotion seems to elude him.

Rooney is one dimensional, even though he works hard for the team.


England bolstered his true abilities way to much.

[Miguel]

Originally Posted by amenrah73

Rooney will have to be. But what if he's not?


What say you then?


Nobody has explained why they feel Rooney is better. Have you noticed? No facts, no goal comparison (he is a striker right), no real tagible reason.
But even speaking of Rooney, people that don't like Ronaldo just bash Ronoldo istead of providing evidence to explain why he's an inferior player.


The truth hurts.

Have you actually watched Rooney play closely.. He works his *** off for United.
Heres why Rooney is better
When loses the ball -Rooney will chase.. Ronaldo will put hands on hips
When Losing -Rooney will defend.. Ronaldo will just stand around waiting for the ball
When attacking- Ronaldo will run on his own, going for glory.. Rooney will pass and run trying to work a goal.
When winning- Rooney tries for more goals.. Ronaldo dances around the ball
When the ball doesnt get to them -Again Rooney will chase.. Ronaldo throws his hands up in the air

Football isnt all about goals. Its about determination. Ronaldo has none. Rooney has buckets full

Is that enough evidence for you

[amenrah73]

Originally Posted by Mattius6969

Have you actually watched Rooney play closely.. He works his *** off for United.
Heres why Rooney is better
When loses the ball -Rooney will chase.. Ronaldo will put hands on hips
When Losing -Rooney will defend.. Ronaldo will just stand around waiting for the ball
When attacking- Ronaldo will run on his own, going for glory.. Rooney will pass and run trying to work a goal.
When winning- Rooney tries for more goals.. Ronaldo dances around the ball
When the ball doesnt get to them -Again Rooney will chase.. Ronaldo throws his hands up in the air

Football isnt all about goals. Its about determination. Ronaldo has none. Rooney has buckets full

Is that enough evidence for you

No it's not evidence. Evidence is on the final score sheet. You don't win the league without scoring- scoring a lot of goals. Something Ronaldo has provided in volumes.

Determination is great, so is chasing the ball down field. But there are many lesser quality players that can do that job. I call that a role player, every team needs them. But every team needs a star as well.

And Ronaldo is the brightest one on Manchester right now. The rarer, of the two qualities mentioned- the role player versus the star. I'll pick the star first always. Since I can throw a meagerly 3 millions pounds for a ball chaser way more often, before I land the World FIFA Player of the world. Get it?

Yes Rooney is a star in his own right, but he's not the brightest on his team to date. That's Ronaldo. You just can't argue that. And in my opinion- the real reason why the two never got along well.

You need the ball chaser no doubt...but then the ball chaser always gives it to the playmaker...and if you think the bigger playmaker is Rooney...it doesn't show up on the score card. But you can see the tangible, affect with Ronaldo.


That's when rubber hits the road, Tevez and Rooney are the same...but you wouldn't compare Tevez surely to Ronaldo. Would you?


Keep the bias down and look at things objectively.


Ronaldo is the World Player of the Year. You don't get that by rolling on the ground, and having your hands constantly on your hips. Even though I think he does spend way to much time crying to officials and eating salad on the pitch.

[Miguel]

Originally Posted by amenrah73

No it's not evidence. Evidence is on the final score sheet. You don't win the league without scoring- scoring a lot of goals. Something Ronaldo has provided in volumes.

Determination is great, so is chasing the ball down field. But there are many lesser quality players that can do that job. I call that a role player, every team needs them. But every team needs a star as well.

And Ronaldo is the brightest one on Manchester right now. The rarer, of the two qualities mentioned- the role player versus the star. I'll pick the star first always. Since I can throw a meagerly 3 millions pounds for a ball chaser way more often, before I land the World FIFA Player of the world. Get it?

Yes Rooney is a star in his own right, but he's not the brightest on his team to date. That's Ronaldo. You just can't argue that. And in my opinion- the real reason why the two never got along well.

You need the ball chaser no doubt...but then the ball chaser always gives it to the playmaker...and if you think the bigger playmaker is Rooney...it doesn't show up on the score card. But you can see the tangible, affect with Ronaldo.


That's when rubber hits the road, Tevez and Rooney are the same...but you wouldn't compare Tevez surely to Ronaldo. Would you?


Keep the bias down and look at things objectively.


Ronaldo is the World Player of the Year. You don't get that by rolling on the ground, and having your hands constantly on your hips. Even though I think he does spend way to much time crying to officials and eating salad on the pitch.

Yeah you are right to a certain extent.. But thats my opinion.
I'm not biased atall. Ronaldo is an EXCELLENT player. But if i was Sir Al. I would much prefer team play, than just one player robbing all the glory. And that's what Ronaldo is doing. When was the last time any other attacking player in the United squad got any PROPPER credit. Because i can't remember for the life of me.

And yes the bigger playmaker out of the two is Rooney. If you look at the stats. Ronaldo only offered 9 assists this season. When Rooney achieved 13. And if you've got Rooney threading in passes into the box like he normally does. It really isn't hard to score

And the reason Rooney hasn't had one of his best seasons to date. Is the fact he's been played out of position. Ronaldo came to United as a striker. And is being played as a wide-right striker. Rooney came to United as a striker. And is being played as an attacking-midfielder/left-winger; Not his natural position

Wayne Rooney Goal 1-1 Chelsea vs Manchester United | Euro 2008 highlights, wallpapers, goals, animations, pictures, avatars!
Would Ronaldo be able to do that inured ?
I greatly doubt it. He would be sat on the floor crying.

[amenrah73]

Originally Posted by Mattius6969

Yeah you are right to a certain extent.. But thats my opinion.
I'm not biased atall. Ronaldo is an EXCELLENT player. But if i was Sir Al. I would much prefer team play, than just one player robbing all the glory. And that's what Ronaldo is doing. When was the last time any other attacking player in the United squad got any PROPPER credit. Because i can't remember for the life of me.

And yes the bigger playmaker out of the two is Rooney. If you look at the stats. Ronaldo only offered 9 assists this season. When Rooney achieved 13. And if you've got Rooney threading in passes into the box like he normally does. It really isn't hard to score

And the reason Rooney hasn't had one of his best seasons to date. Is the fact he's been played out of position. Ronaldo came to United as a striker. And is being played as a wide-right striker. Rooney came to United as a striker. And is being played as an attacking-midfielder/left-winger; Not his natural position

Wayne Rooney Goal 1-1 Chelsea vs Manchester United | Euro 2008 highlights, wallpapers, goals, animations, pictures, avatars!
Would Ronaldo be able to do that inured ?
I greatly doubt it. He would be sat on the floor crying.

You just mentioned yourself, that both players play out of position. And that Rooney doesn't do well, and Ronaldo obviously won World Player of the Year.


You have made my arguemet for me.

[Miguel]

Originally Posted by amenrah73

You just mentioned yourself, that both players play out of position. And that Rooney doesn't do well, and Ronaldo obviously won World Player of the Year.


You have made my arguemet for me.

If you read my text properly. I said Ronaldo is playing as a Wide STRIKER.

[Keating]

I really like Ronaldo.Class Act.But he doesn't do anything for United in defence.Rooney tracks back and does as much as he can for the team,he is not just thinking about himself.

[amenrah73]

Originally Posted by Mattius6969

If you read my text properly. I said Ronaldo is playing as a Wide STRIKER.

You mean they put him as a winger, and for certain games Fergie puts him as a wide right striker.


So he has been playing mainly out of position...much like Rooney.


I know what you wrote...but that doesn't make it fact.


Again, Ronaldo can adapt...while Rooney can't.

[amenrah73]

Originally Posted by Keating

I really like Ronaldo.Class Act.But he doesn't do anything for United in defence.Rooney tracks back and does as much as he can for the team,he is not just thinking about himself.

So when he scores for the "team" and the "team" wins...its just all for Ronaldo?


You're are not serious.

[Miguel]

Tbh for most of the games he plays a striker role.
Rooney almost always drops back
Its a fact. End of conversation.

[klashnekoff nth]

Originally Posted by amenrah73

You just mentioned yourself, that both players play out of position. And that Rooney doesn't do well, and Ronaldo obviously won World Player of the Year.


You have made my arguemet for me.

9 assists?

remember 3 of those came in 1 game vs villa (the 4-0 at old trafford)

[amenrah73]

Originally Posted by Mattius6969

Tbh for most of the games he plays a striker role.
Rooney almost always drops back
Its a fact. End of conversation.

That's not how he's played all these years with Manchester.

It's Rooney who can't adapt. He's the lesser player when he gets pushed back for a winger!

[amenrah73]

Originally Posted by klashnekoff nth

9 assists?

remember 3 of those came in 1 game vs villa (the 4-0 at old trafford)

So you are claiming that Rooney is better than Ronaldo because he has provided more assists?


Man what is Fifa thinking not making Rooney the World Player of the year then! What are they thinking!

[stankefa90]

Ronaldo of course..

[alfootballadic]

Originally Posted by uruwow

Ronaldo has no balls, I watched the final of champions league and missed his penalty shot, no balls I tell you.

were u watching d same final as me! ronaldo scored a brillant goal and made great runs and crossed and proved 2 douters that he can preform on the big stage!

also u said he has no balls cos he missed a peno. any1 can miss a penelty,look how many he has finished this year! if ronaldo has no balls cos cech saved his peno Terry must hav a frickin vigania!

[Adam11111]

Originally Posted by Svenboss160

The problem with this arguement is although I hate the little S***e Rooney, he is better. Rooney sacrifices himself for the team where as Ronaldo is greedy. Take Rooney out of Man U and put him as the star of the team then he will shine. Rooney should have never left Everton, how can you shine with greedy players who all want to be the star?

Almost a mouthpiece for the English media.

[DimluvsSVWB]

if Rooney is 90, then why is messi 89 and klose 86?

[Incendiere]

Originally Posted by amenrah73

he has finally silenced the critics.

No he hasn't, he just proved at euro that he can not play in big games, he will just disappear.

[masterfile]

ronaldo is better

no doubt

[CowRonaldo]

Originally Posted by DimluvsSVWB

if Rooney is 90, then why is messi 89 and klose 86?

Rooney isn't 90 after the winter update.

You're still playing that CG lalalala?