EA 100 times better than Codemasters

earulescricket · 04-07-2005, 06:07 PM

First of all...Welcome to all...
We all know how good EA is in making Great Cricket games like cricket[2004,2002] and now Cricket 2005.I couldnt believe that a small company like codemasters which usually make arcade games is looking to challenge EA cricket2005 and not surprisingly when i played their much talked brian lara cricket2005 demo it was more like a DOS lalalalalalala game.They make their own cricket rules like for wides and do not care to simulate the real cricket rules/conditions and this is where EA is good .I m still surprised that many guys are still favouring codemasters even though cricket 2005 is a clear winner.Ahh .. Just by visiting their boring forum I already noticed that they are making Patches for the game even before the game is released..Now what kind of a game it is which is being patched which is just about to release?

And regarding bugs - Ea Cricket2005 has very minor bugs which donot require much attention.But when i played Brian lara cricket 2005 demo i noticed infinite bugs.I will list a few here
*Clouds don't move at all.It looks as if an image file moulded over the stadium where as in cricket2005 clouds move and we get different weather conditions during the play like clouds obstructing the sun for a brief period of time leading to overcast conditions.
*Bowler runs towards the ball like a dog.
*keepers don't wear hats.
*When u don't press any key to stop the no-ball marker before the no-ball line ,it is given as legitimate ball.
*Player models don't resemble the real players not even by 20% unlike EA player models.
and many more....(i don't wish to mention all as its just a mere waste of time)

Only one word -
[removed by Protagonist - watch the language]

EA is the way to go for future Cricket games.

DevilRayUK · 04-07-2005, 06:40 PM

Why do you not wait until both have had full releases then comment? If we are going by demo's then no one would have purchased cricket 05 as it was three overs of batting and that was it. Cricket 05 has many bugs as do lots of games, but some can be avoided. I assume you do not have an xbox or you would not have made your post.

SteveS3667 · 04-07-2005, 06:50 PM

Firstly...is there any need for foul language!!!!

The fact the clouds don't move, the keepers don't wear hats, the bowler runs up like a dog and the fact the players may not resemble their counterparts dosen't make the game useless and by the way these are not bugs....

Do you really think that a paying customer should put up with terrible bug ridden software three games on the trott???

C2002/2004 & 2005 all have bowlers bowling more than their alloted overs in a ODI...The developers were told but we're still getting it.

Rain, Line up and save game bugs in 2004.

The lack of a save feature in the XBOX 2005 - unforgivable mistake!!!

Players sliding along the ground in 2005.

Start of day 2 reverting back to Lunch on day 1 in tests - 2005.

Hard to bat in 2005!!!

Need I go on.... and you're having a stab a demo

Codemasters in fact are a big company!!!

Yeah the grafix, options and the like are in EA's efforts but useless if they don't work properly....

Steve S.

DevilRayUK · 04-07-2005, 06:57 PM

Codemasters titles

Consoles

Brian Lara
Worms
Toca Race driver
LMA MAnager
Operation flashpoint
Colin Mcrae Rally
Club football
Second sight
Indie Car
Snooker
Downhill Domination

PC

IGI
Wartime Command
Soldiers
Asherons Calls

These are just the current games alone. Some research is advised if you want to make a valid argument.

da premiership · 04-07-2005, 07:07 PM

Codemasters make some great games which are not arcadey. lalala2 on pc and consoles is a great racing game which is far from an arcade style.

mvaughan2005 · 04-07-2005, 07:18 PM

Cricket 2005 has minor bugs?

They have quite a few major bugs all of which have been listed on this very forum. Nothing beats the xbox bug, its in one word - pathetic!!

andy82 nufc · 04-07-2005, 08:50 PM

Now, What is your job at EA

Gafatasary · 04-07-2005, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by andy82 nufc

Now, What is your job at EA

EA BIG Games Designer, I'm on 140k A Year

SteveS3667 · 04-07-2005, 09:27 PM

Further to my earlier post and I don't want to alarm anyone but the bug ridden cricket saga doesn't begin at Cricket 2002....so to blame EA totally is probably a bit harsh.

Original BLC (Codemasters) was done by the producer of HB Studios and was actually the best one....

So with potentially two good Codemasters games surely the QA dept at HB should be questioned maybe EA to an extent....

Previous to that...

Brian Lara '96 (Audiogenic) same producer PC & Amiga versions had bugs...

Graham Gooch World Class Cricket (Audiogenic) same producer, Amiga Version suffered a two year delay before a bug ridden game was released - The PC version was OK'ish still minor bugs...

Graham Gooch Test Cricket - (Spectrum & CBM 64 - Audiogenic) same producer, try getting the last two CPU batsmen out!!!!

So why should we be optimistic about Cricket 2006!!!

Steve.

JamesyJames3 · 04-07-2005, 10:12 PM

How can you say this game is good? its plain terrible! the batting in this game makes the One-day format basically impossible. I have also identified another potential bug, possibly not but I will share it anyways. The batsmen confidence. When I was batting I was going along nicely in a test match but it was refusing to go up, I had Justin Langer on 40 n.o. but he had 0 confidence. The once i got round to bowling Deon Embrahim had scored 7 of 60 deliveries yet had almost full confidence. Explain that?

saltiresfan · 04-07-2005, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by earulescricket

First of all...Welcome to all...
We all know how good EA is in making Great Cricket games like cricket[2004,2002] and now Cricket 2005

I'm assuming this is ironic... Have you actually played Cricket2002 or 4?

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Just by visiting their boring forum I already noticed that they are making Patches for the game even before the game is released..Now what kind of a game it is which is being patched which is just about to release?

Better than not patching the bugs at all as EA did for C2k2 anlalala4. Those bugs practically made the game unplayable and EA did nothing about it. I've got no idea how you can criticise Codies on this one - not only does their game have less bugs but they are attempting to fix them.

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EA is the way to go for future Cricket games.

Do you work for EA or does a close relative work there? You completely lose any credibility you might have had by the the antagonistic nature of your post where you've decided that shouting loudly is the thing to do when you have nothing worth saying. Show me a well-thought out and well-argued post and I'll respect it.
For the record I think that C2k5 has exceeded expectations but anyone who thinks there were no problems with the previous two releases needs their head examined. As someone who spent a lot of time and money patching the game and fixing the bugs I found your attitude totally pathetic. Of course Codemasters releasing a game is good for cricket gaming and competition. No, they probably won't get it perfect first time which is why they need our support as opposed to EA who released an unfinished game 6 months early to cut in the BLIC market.
Only after Codemasters have released BLIC will the comparisons be possible. Until then spare us the drivel.

earulescricket · 05-07-2005, 12:09 AM

Just one question dudes - Have you all played Cricket2005 thoroughly?
Well i don't think so.Ahh common ....this is the best simulation to real cricket life where u have to concentrate harder to get runs or to bowl well as in real cricket.Every motion capture in the game reflects a true repesentation of the action performed by the players.Just notice even the celebrations reflect a real cricket celebration and different players using different animations.This makes the game more realistic interms of the gaming experience and u would be immersed in a real cricketing experience.Just look at the strokes which were all made perfect taking suggestions from professional cricketers.This is what game developers should do instead of making their own cricketing shots and implementing their own new cricket rules.

Now coming to Brian Lara Cricket 2005 Demo Have you noticed anything which is closer to Cricket 2005.First of all it is a DOS game which is made in wrong time (2005).Wow Just flick the ball and get a six.None of the strokes reflect real cricketing shots.The commentators speak all bull*hit instead of talking about the current game.Cricket 2005 has the perfect commentatory to make the game more enjoyable though with slight errors.And is there any need for hawk-eye in an arcade game?They made it all wrong.

Well i can't say anything more than this .Ea have been developing cricket games from the past 10 years with atmost care and Im pleased with their games.Codemasters tried their best but this made me to go mad 'why are they attempting to make a cricket game to look like an silly arcade game?'

All i wanted to say is boycott 'Brian lara arcade cricket 2005' and get Cricket 2005

rashaba16 · 05-07-2005, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevilRayUK

Codemasters titles

Consoles

Brian Lara
Worms
Toca Race driver
LMA MAnager
Operation flashpoint
Colin Mcrae Rally
Club football
Second sight
Indie Car
Snooker
Downhill Domination

PC

IGI
Wartime Command
Soldiers
Asherons Calls

These are just the current games alone. Some research is advised if you want to make a valid argument.

WOW. Codemasters can challenge EA. HAH HA HAH. Nice joke. You want to bring EA and Codemasters games. Fifa-best selling football game EVER, Need for Speed, Madden, NBA Live, Sims,Battlefield 2, Burnout, and many more. Really Codemasters is no challenge for EA. especially in graphics!

Batting being to hard is a bug? Since when? O you want it to be easy, hence BLIC 2005, okay. I understand. Hit a six everyball then, so get BLIC, if you want a real batting feature get EA 2005. Bowling in BLIC, o I never knew bowlers could swing the ball like if they control it with a remote in real life-BLIC, EA swing is realistic.
BLIC IS AN ARCADE, EA IS A SIMULATION!!!!
Cricket illiterate people can play BLIC not Ea. Real cricket fans won't get BLIC, they'd get EA, if they wanted something REAL!

Asheyuk1 · 05-07-2005, 12:58 AM

i have to agree that cricket 2005 does look alot better than the screenshots of blic2005

i will be getting the lara game but only cause i wasimpressed with the last one that was out ages ago!! although somehow all my platers names went from being real to being made up!!

cricket 2005 does go more towards real cricket you cant just go in and get 100 straight away you have to work at it

as for confidence of batter i got my batters confidence up to nearly half of just over 2 overs but then got bowled!!

cricket 2005 is good but does have some poor bugs but looks better than lara

ea missed out on hawk eye it would be much better on this game i feel

mvaughan2005 · 05-07-2005, 09:00 AM

Dude I agree that the graphics and player animations in Cricket 2005 are mind blowing, and also some things like spin, swing and seam have been improved a great deal...but the gameplay....it sucks!!

And the bugs.....you cant play one test match properly because the game "shifts back" in time, and you practically gain extra sessions which basically prevents any chances of a drawn game. Also the fielding AI in Auto Fielding is just awful! Skidding all over the place, jumping in directions opposite to where the ball is moving from, and not making an attempt to chase balls that is going towards the boundary. Also the outfield seems to be frictionless. The Eden Garden's Stadium is less than half its actual size. The umpire signals byes every now and then for no reason. The commentary and statistics is incorrect. Right handed batsmen are shown as left handed and vice versa in the close ups between deliveries and bowlers bowling over the wicket are shown walking back to their run up from round the wicket in the close ups.

I dont know what you have found so good about Cricket 2005, that makes u completely rule out the chances of BLIC. I for one think Codies might just beat EA this year.

Mattbuck21 · 05-07-2005, 10:17 AM

I have to agree wick mick on all of his points. Saying that i still really like the game. The cosmetic bugs dont bother me to much.

Sentience · 05-07-2005, 11:03 AM

Guys, whether positive or negative we'll be passing on all the constructive feedback posted here. By all means continue to post your thoughts on the game, we do welcome and appreciate it.

aprofromuk · 05-07-2005, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Asheyuk1

i have to agree that cricket 2005 does look alot better than the screenshots of blic2005

i will be getting the lara game but only cause i wasimpressed with the last one that was out ages ago!!

Mate believe me you wont be dissappointed

aprofromuk · 05-07-2005, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rashaba16

Codemasters can challenge EA. HAH HA HAH. Nice joke. You want to bring EA and Codemasters games. Fifa-best selling football game EVER, Need for Speed, Madden, NBA Live, Sims,Battlefield 2, Burnout, and many more. Really Codemasters is no challenge for EA. especially in graphics!

Batting being to hard is a bug? Since when? O you want it to be easy, hence BLIC 2005, okay. I understand. Hit a six everyball then, so get BLIC, if you want a real batting feature get EA 2005. Bowling in BLIC, o I never knew bowlers could swing the ball like if they control it with a remote in real life-BLIC, EA swing is realistic.
BLIC IS AN ARCADE, EA IS A SIMULATION!!!!
Cricket illiterate people can play BLIC not Ea. Real cricket fans won't get BLIC, they'd get EA, if they wanted something REAL!

I dont really care much about the publisher or developer, and maybe according to your definition of a cricket fan I might be an amateur cause I think BLIC is heads above EA's Cricket series, though I must confess I played cricket at the professional level, now I would like to say a few things:

Graphically EA's cricket has better yet unrealistic player models, so dont know how ppl find that good cause I sure dont, actually the grounds look small cause of the gorillas-like players running around, animations are noything but smooth, everytime a fielder collects a ball it looks like a silverback on the safari, crowd is nowhere near BLIC (FIFA crowd doent work for cricket).

BLIC is the first video game which has made bowling real fun, I mean I enjoy bowling as much as batting, now I agree with arcade feel about batting in BLIC, but then again its just a demo on easy settings and its not the final code, but I wud give them a try for few more years b4 writing them off, but I have to say I am very confident that in two to three renditions BLIC will be the PES of cricket, as for EA well it might be the FIFA of the cricket world and am sure there will be certain people lining up to buy the game, who care more about clouds than the real game.

And finally regarding FIFA and NBA Live series, ever heard of PES or the 2K Sports series, need I say more.

GattbWarne4 · 05-07-2005, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EAUK_Sentience

Guys, whether positive or negative we'll be passing on all the constructive feedback posted here. By all means continue to post your thoughts on the game, we do welcome and appreciate it.

Hi EAUK_Sentience,

Contrary to the mass of "This game is rubbish" type rants on this forum, IMHO, I think C2005 is a definite improvement on C2004, and, after several days play, quite enjoyable. My thanks to the dev team

However, I've experienced some problems with the PC version (I can't comment on the Xbox/PS2 versions); could you confirm whether a patch for the following issues (or any others I haven't noticed) is under consideration/in the pipeline ?

- Miscalculation of extras figure displayed on scorecard, though the actual innings total is correct (particularly one-day & county championship games).
- Commentary misquoting player/team/partnership scores, scoring shots (e.g. taking a single & Richie announcing "that's the first boundary for..."
- Occasional instances of the CPU team celebrating taking a "non-wicket"; I think it was for catching a ball that only hit the batsman's pads.
- Occasional crash back to desktop (had just saved mid-test match, went out to main menu, then was selecting teams under the Play Now option).
- When CPU bowler switches to round the wicket, he will only bowl the first ball from that side before reverting to over the wicket for the rest of the over.
- When a runout decision is referred to the third umpire, the resulting score is displayed before the umpire's decision, spoiling any tension in waiting for the red/green light !
- A few strange cutscenes; at fall of wicket occasionally shows wrong batsman departing; left-handed batsmen shown standing right-handed.

To be honest, I haven't noticed anything else that other posts have mentioned as yet (certainly no showstoppers that were present in C2004). Yes, there are some foibles with the gameplay, but I don't really think people can seriously comment without spending a fair bit of time playing at each of the skill levels against various opponents on various pitches in various conditions; only then can you identify real issues. When I've played it for a few weeks, I may be able to comment further.

Anyway, any comment on the likelihood of a patch would be much appreciated.

Many thanks.

Mattbuck21 · 05-07-2005, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GattbWarne4

Quote:

Originally Posted by EAUK_Sentience

Guys, whether positive or negative we'll be passing on all the constructive feedback posted here. By all means continue to post your thoughts on the game, we do welcome and appreciate it.

Hi EAUK_Sentience,

Contrary to the mass of "This game is rubbish" type rants on this forum, IMHO, I think C2005 is a definite improvement on C2004, and, after several days play, quite enjoyable. My thanks to the dev team

However, I've experienced some problems with the PC version (I can't comment on the Xbox/PS2 versions); could you confirm whether a patch for the following issues (or any others I haven't noticed) is under consideration/in the pipeline ?

- Miscalculation of extras figure displayed on scorecard, though the actual innings total is correct (particularly one-day & county championship games).
- Commentary misquoting player/team/partnership scores, scoring shots (e.g. taking a single & Richie announcing "that's the first boundary for..."
- Occasional instances of the CPU team celebrating taking a "non-wicket"; I think it was for catching a ball that only hit the batsman's pads.
- Occasional crash back to desktop (had just saved mid-test match, went out to main menu, then was selecting teams under the Play Now option).
- When CPU bowler switches to round the wicket, he will only bowl the first ball from that side before reverting to over the wicket for the rest of the over.
- When a runout decision is referred to the third umpire, the resulting score is displayed before the umpire's decision, spoiling any tension in waiting for the red/green light !
- A few strange cutscenes; at fall of wicket occasionally shows wrong batsman departing; left-handed batsmen shown standing right-handed.

To be honest, I haven't noticed anything else that other posts have mentioned as yet (certainly no showstoppers that were present in C2004). Yes, there are some foibles with the gameplay, but I don't really think people can seriously comment without spending a fair bit of time playing at each of the skill levels against various opponents on various pitches in various conditions; only then can you identify real issues. When I've played it for a few weeks, I may be able to comment further.

Anyway, any comment on the likelihood of a patch would be much appreciated.

Many thanks.

This is an excellent post, i am going to pm the admin to ask that he replies to this.

rubbergenius · 05-07-2005, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by earulescricket

First of all...Welcome to all...
We all know how good EA is in making Great Cricket games like cricket[2004,2002] and now Cricket 2005.I couldnt believe that a small company like codemasters which usually make arcade games is looking to challenge EA cricket2005 and not surprisingly when i played their much talked brian lara cricket2005 demo it was more like a DOS lalalalalalala game.They make their own cricket rules like for wides and do not care to simulate the real cricket rules/conditions and this is where EA is good .I m still surprised that many guys are still favouring codemasters even though cricket 2005 is a clear winner.Ahh .. Just by visiting their boring forum I already noticed that they are making Patches for the game even before the game is released..Now what kind of a game it is which is being patched which is just about to release?

And regarding bugs - Ea Cricket2005 has very minor bugs which donot require much attention.But when i played Brian lara cricket 2005 demo i noticed infinite bugs.I will list a few here
*Clouds don't move at all.It looks as if an image file moulded over the stadium where as in cricket2005 clouds move and we get different weather conditions during the play like clouds obstructing the sun for a brief period of time leading to overcast conditions.
*Bowler runs towards the ball like a dog.
*keepers don't wear hats.
*When u don't press any key to stop the no-ball marker before the no-ball line ,it is given as legitimate ball.
*Player models don't resemble the real players not even by 20% unlike EA player models.
and many more....(i don't wish to mention all as its just a mere waste of time)

Only one word -
[removed by Protagonist - watch the language]

EA is the way to go for future Cricket games.

You are fantastic 'earulescricket' - great posts, keep up the good work. Really told me and Codies a thing or two! What were we at Codemasters thinking?! Promise we won't stand in EA's way again!

/Apologies to Protagonist and Sentience.

GattbWarne4 · 05-07-2005, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattbuck21

This is an excellent post, i am going to pm the admin to ask that he replies to this.

Cheers mate; I'm just so fed up of coming to these forums (& Planetcricket) and reading ill-conceived, ill-informed, un-spellchecked rants in text-speak. Yes, if you've experienced problems with the game, set them out & ask for a response; just saying "This game is sh**e" isn't contructive & most likely won't get you a reply from admin/the developers.

Just because of the relative anonymity of posting on a forum, doesn't mean you can't be constructive & civil. After all, if you walk into a shop to complain about a product or service, you don't start shouting & swearing (at least I don't

) without first putting your concerns across rationally and waiting for a response. Of course, if a reasonable response isn't forthcoming...

And anyway, credit where credit is due; in my experience, this game is pretty good.

GattbWarne4 · 05-07-2005, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rubbergenius

Quote:

Originally Posted by earulescricket

First of all...Welcome to all...
We all know how good EA is in making Great Cricket games like cricket[2004,2002] and now Cricket 2005.I couldnt believe that a small company like codemasters which usually make arcade games is looking to challenge EA cricket2005 and not surprisingly when i played their much talked brian lara cricket2005 demo it was more like a DOS lalalalalalala game.They make their own cricket rules like for wides and do not care to simulate the real cricket rules/conditions and this is where EA is good .I m still surprised that many guys are still favouring codemasters even though cricket 2005 is a clear winner.Ahh .. Just by visiting their boring forum I already noticed that they are making Patches for the game even before the game is released..Now what kind of a game it is which is being patched which is just about to release?

And regarding bugs - Ea Cricket2005 has very minor bugs which donot require much attention.But when i played Brian lara cricket 2005 demo i noticed infinite bugs.I will list a few here
*Clouds don't move at all.It looks as if an image file moulded over the stadium where as in cricket2005 clouds move and we get different weather conditions during the play like clouds obstructing the sun for a brief period of time leading to overcast conditions.
*Bowler runs towards the ball like a dog.
*keepers don't wear hats.
*When u don't press any key to stop the no-ball marker before the no-ball line ,it is given as legitimate ball.
*Player models don't resemble the real players not even by 20% unlike EA player models.
and many more....(i don't wish to mention all as its just a mere waste of time)

Only one word -
[removed by Protagonist - watch the language]

EA is the way to go for future Cricket games.

You are fantastic 'earulescricket' - great posts, keep up the good work. Really told me and Codies a thing or two! What were we at Codemasters thinking?! Promise we won't stand in EA's way again!

/Apologies to Protagonist and Sentience.

Great timing Rubbergenius; the post you've quoted just proves my point above ! BTW, looking forward to BLIC; the demo looks very good. Good times for cricket gaming at last; it'll be interesting to see which game I spend more time with...

earulescricket · 06-07-2005, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by aprofromuk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asheyuk1

i have to agree that cricket 2005 does look alot better than the screenshots of blic2005

i will be getting the lara game but only cause i wasimpressed with the last one that was out ages ago!!

Mate believe me you wont be dissappointed

What the Hell!!!Just compare the strokes in both games and you will realise how realistic the Cricket 2005's strokes are ,which is the key factor for any cricket game and yes u have to play proper shots to bat properly with full confidence which means the user has to concentrate more while choosing the shots just like real life.And Look at BLIC strokes !They look as if they were made by some street gully cricketerlalalala six or out'! this is what they made!

Not only that Cricket 2005 has the perfect AI which bats alike to real cricket and the AI can set the fields according to the situation which depends on the Team's Captain i.e.for the first time captaincy factor is included in a cricket game.Different captains have different capabilities for setting fields to contain the batsman.This is why its difficult to bat against AUS and easy to bat against minnows.

What more can u expect from a cricket game?

04-07-2005, 06:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
earulescricket Rookie Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 15	EA 100 times better than Codemasters First of all...Welcome to all... We all know how good EA is in making Great Cricket games like cricket[2004,2002] and now Cricket 2005.I couldnt believe that a small company like codemasters which usually make arcade games is looking to challenge EA cricket2005 and not surprisingly when i played their much talked brian lara cricket2005 demo it was more like a DOS lalalalalalala game.They make their own cricket rules like for wides and do not care to simulate the real cricket rules/conditions and this is where EA is good .I m still surprised that many guys are still favouring codemasters even though cricket 2005 is a clear winner.Ahh .. Just by visiting their boring forum I already noticed that they are making Patches for the game even before the game is released..Now what kind of a game it is which is being patched which is just about to release? And regarding bugs - Ea Cricket2005 has very minor bugs which donot require much attention.But when i played Brian lara cricket 2005 demo i noticed infinite bugs.I will list a few here Clouds don't move at all.It looks as if an image file moulded over the stadium where as in cricket2005 clouds move and we get different weather conditions during the play like clouds obstructing the sun for a brief period of time leading to overcast conditions. Bowler runs towards the ball like a dog. keepers don't wear hats. When u don't press any key to stop the no-ball marker before the no-ball line ,it is given as legitimate ball. *Player models don't resemble the real players not even by 20% unlike EA player models. and many more....(i don't wish to mention all as its just a mere waste of time) Only one word - [removed by Protagonist - watch the language] EA is the way to go for future Cricket games.

04-07-2005, 07:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
da premiership EA Veteran Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 19,679	Codemasters make some great games which are not arcadey. lalala2 on pc and consoles is a great racing game which is far from an arcade style. __________________ EAUK FIFA Forum Moderator

04-07-2005, 10:12 PM	#10 (permalink)
JamesyJames3 Rookie Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 79	EA>Codemasters? Errrr, no How can you say this game is good? its plain terrible! the batting in this game makes the One-day format basically impossible. I have also identified another potential bug, possibly not but I will share it anyways. The batsmen confidence. When I was batting I was going along nicely in a test match but it was refusing to go up, I had Justin Langer on 40 n.o. but he had 0 confidence. The once i got round to bowling Deon Embrahim had scored 7 of 60 deliveries yet had almost full confidence. Explain that?

04-07-2005, 06:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
DevilRayUK Rookie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 19	Why do you not wait until both have had full releases then comment? If we are going by demo's then no one would have purchased cricket 05 as it was three overs of batting and that was it. Cricket 05 has many bugs as do lots of games, but some can be avoided. I assume you do not have an xbox or you would not have made your post.

04-07-2005, 06:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
SteveS3667 Rookie Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 32	Firstly...is there any need for foul language!!!! The fact the clouds don't move, the keepers don't wear hats, the bowler runs up like a dog and the fact the players may not resemble their counterparts dosen't make the game useless and by the way these are not bugs.... Do you really think that a paying customer should put up with terrible bug ridden software three games on the trott??? C2002/2004 & 2005 all have bowlers bowling more than their alloted overs in a ODI...The developers were told but we're still getting it. Rain, Line up and save game bugs in 2004. The lack of a save feature in the XBOX 2005 - unforgivable mistake!!! Players sliding along the ground in 2005. Start of day 2 reverting back to Lunch on day 1 in tests - 2005. Hard to bat in 2005!!! Need I go on.... and you're having a stab a demo Codemasters in fact are a big company!!! Yeah the grafix, options and the like are in EA's efforts but useless if they don't work properly.... Steve S.

04-07-2005, 06:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
DevilRayUK Rookie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 19	Codemasters titles Consoles Brian Lara Worms Toca Race driver LMA MAnager Operation flashpoint Colin Mcrae Rally Club football Second sight Indie Car Snooker Downhill Domination PC IGI Wartime Command Soldiers Asherons Calls These are just the current games alone. Some research is advised if you want to make a valid argument.

04-07-2005, 07:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
mvaughan2005 Rookie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 61	Cricket 2005 has minor bugs? They have quite a few major bugs all of which have been listed on this very forum. Nothing beats the xbox bug, its in one word - pathetic!!

04-07-2005, 08:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
andy82 nufc Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 425	Now, What is your job at EA

04-07-2005, 09:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
SteveS3667 Rookie Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 32	Further to my earlier post and I don't want to alarm anyone but the bug ridden cricket saga doesn't begin at Cricket 2002....so to blame EA totally is probably a bit harsh. Original BLC (Codemasters) was done by the producer of HB Studios and was actually the best one.... So with potentially two good Codemasters games surely the QA dept at HB should be questioned maybe EA to an extent.... Previous to that... Brian Lara '96 (Audiogenic) same producer PC & Amiga versions had bugs... Graham Gooch World Class Cricket (Audiogenic) same producer, Amiga Version suffered a two year delay before a bug ridden game was released - The PC version was OK'ish still minor bugs... Graham Gooch Test Cricket - (Spectrum & CBM 64 - Audiogenic) same producer, try getting the last two CPU batsmen out!!!! So why should we be optimistic about Cricket 2006!!! Steve.

05-07-2005, 12:09 AM	#12 (permalink)
earulescricket Rookie Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 15	Just one question dudes - Have you all played Cricket2005 thoroughly? Well i don't think so.Ahh common ....this is the best simulation to real cricket life where u have to concentrate harder to get runs or to bowl well as in real cricket.Every motion capture in the game reflects a true repesentation of the action performed by the players.Just notice even the celebrations reflect a real cricket celebration and different players using different animations.This makes the game more realistic interms of the gaming experience and u would be immersed in a real cricketing experience.Just look at the strokes which were all made perfect taking suggestions from professional cricketers.This is what game developers should do instead of making their own cricketing shots and implementing their own new cricket rules. Now coming to Brian Lara Cricket 2005 Demo Have you noticed anything which is closer to Cricket 2005.First of all it is a DOS game which is made in wrong time (2005).Wow Just flick the ball and get a six.None of the strokes reflect real cricketing shots.The commentators speak all bull*hit instead of talking about the current game.Cricket 2005 has the perfect commentatory to make the game more enjoyable though with slight errors.And is there any need for hawk-eye in an arcade game?They made it all wrong. Well i can't say anything more than this .Ea have been developing cricket games from the past 10 years with atmost care and Im pleased with their games.Codemasters tried their best but this made me to go mad 'why are they attempting to make a cricket game to look like an silly arcade game?' All i wanted to say is boycott 'Brian lara arcade cricket 2005' and get Cricket 2005

05-07-2005, 12:58 AM	#14 (permalink)
Asheyuk1 Rookie Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 32	i have to agree that cricket 2005 does look alot better than the screenshots of blic2005 i will be getting the lara game but only cause i wasimpressed with the last one that was out ages ago!! although somehow all my platers names went from being real to being made up!! cricket 2005 does go more towards real cricket you cant just go in and get 100 straight away you have to work at it as for confidence of batter i got my batters confidence up to nearly half of just over 2 overs but then got bowled!! cricket 2005 is good but does have some poor bugs but looks better than lara ea missed out on hawk eye it would be much better on this game i feel

05-07-2005, 09:00 AM	#15 (permalink)
mvaughan2005 Rookie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 61	Dude I agree that the graphics and player animations in Cricket 2005 are mind blowing, and also some things like spin, swing and seam have been improved a great deal...but the gameplay....it sucks!! And the bugs.....you cant play one test match properly because the game "shifts back" in time, and you practically gain extra sessions which basically prevents any chances of a drawn game. Also the fielding AI in Auto Fielding is just awful! Skidding all over the place, jumping in directions opposite to where the ball is moving from, and not making an attempt to chase balls that is going towards the boundary. Also the outfield seems to be frictionless. The Eden Garden's Stadium is less than half its actual size. The umpire signals byes every now and then for no reason. The commentary and statistics is incorrect. Right handed batsmen are shown as left handed and vice versa in the close ups between deliveries and bowlers bowling over the wicket are shown walking back to their run up from round the wicket in the close ups. I dont know what you have found so good about Cricket 2005, that makes u completely rule out the chances of BLIC. I for one think Codies might just beat EA this year.

05-07-2005, 10:17 AM	#16 (permalink)
Mattbuck21 Rookie Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 44	I have to agree wick mick on all of his points. Saying that i still really like the game. The cosmetic bugs dont bother me to much.

05-07-2005, 11:03 AM	#17 (permalink)
Sentience Forum Junkie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,988	Guys, whether positive or negative we'll be passing on all the constructive feedback posted here. By all means continue to post your thoughts on the game, we do welcome and appreciate it.