Do You Spawn Kill?

[drglock40]

Originally Posted by McChronic

What's with the ""? You don't see the difference?

That was in reference to all the previous posts stating.. I base rape. Not spawn kill. They are different. I agree. I think some are in denial and say that to feel better about being a spawn killer. Its gray area. I spawn kill and sleep ok at night. I cant recall the last time I was spawn killed or base raped.

[drglock40]

Originally Posted by FootFingers

haha, i thought it was taking a while also.

weird. its going fast now. funny as hell

[WantonHERO]

Originally Posted by drglock40

weird. its going fast now. funny as hell

still slow when I view it
*refreshing page*

[WantonHERO]

Still slow...but I don't mind watching that chicks melons bounce in slow motion, thats for sure

[Booda]

I don't spawn kill or base rape. I'm not good enough to get into the enemies base and do either. I'll admit it. I just hate those lalalahats that like to sit behind your base with a heavy tank and fire random shots into buildings getting the "occasional" kill by doing so.

[McChronic]

Originally Posted by drglock40

That was in reference to all the previous posts stating.. I base rape. Not spawn kill. They are different. I agree. I think some are in denial and say that to feel better about being a spawn killer. Its gray area. I spawn kill and sleep ok at night. I cant recall the last time I was spawn killed or base raped.

Yeah if you're base raping you will inadvertently get at least one spawn kill. That's why my vote went to "Yes I spawn kill". If it happens it happens. I doubt anybody will every get spawn killed by me more than once in a match.

[unit408bigpapij]

People who say they "base rape" or "base camp" need to just admit your a spawn killer. The person on the receiving end will already think of you as a spawn killer. They wont be like "Dang, I just got base raped". NO...They will say, "This lalalalalala just spawn killed me".

People, get out of your mind that the only spawn killing is sitting behind the spawn point with a shot gun or knife out & killing them as they spawn. There are many ways to spawn kill (kill someone as they spawn). Its a reality, my guess is that 70% of us do it on purpose, 10% of us do it without even knowing it & the other 20% do it on "accident". Examples of spawn killing

Pilots: Shooting your rockets into the spawn area on purpose
Tankers: Shooting 120 shells into the spawn area from anywhere
Support: Dropping mortar strikes into the spawn area
Recon: Camped accross the spawn & killing people as they spawn with the help of motion sensors or not
Demo, Assuly, Spec: Throwing grenades into the spawn area
Spec: C4, Pit of death (the unltimate spawn kill)

[Jamesspade2]

One form of camping, considered by many players to be especially reprehensible, is spawn camping, also known as respawn or refresh camping, or Spawn Rape. A spawn camping player guards the positions where players are brought into the map when they are just entering the game or when they are revived after being killed ("respawn"). In fast-paced games, the camper has the advantage in that they are able to kill players before they have a chance to collect their starting weaponry or even before they get their bearings and sometimes can shoot them in their back every time.

Per Wikipedia.

Base Rape- In an online game, the act of killing spawning enemies before they leave the base.

Per Urban Dictionary.

Base Rape is nothing like Spawn Rape. Period.

Surround the base, or at the least form a semi circle perimeter and you are good.

Defending HD. 3 guys along left fence line, sniper by rock far left and by enemy base. Set up more people along the ridges and water, and you have a secure perimeter, a base camp, that the enemy can and may get by.

Spawn Kill, get to the spawn point, sit there, and say oh, bang, dead, oh bang dead. Talent, really.

[Madstyle__TPF]

I won't hover around spawn areas, but if I'm passing through, and you spawn, I'll kill you.

[Astr0damus]

I'm going to start spawn healing enemies to counteract y'alls bad karma.

[McChronic]

Originally Posted by Jamesspade2

One form of camping, considered by many players to be especially reprehensible, is spawn camping, also known as respawn or refresh camping, or Spawn Rape. A spawn camping player guards the positions where players are brought into the map when they are just entering the game or when they are revived after being killed ("respawn"). In fast-paced games, the camper has the advantage in that they are able to kill players before they have a chance to collect their starting weaponry or even before they get their bearings and sometimes can shoot them in their back every time.

Per Wikipedia.

Base Rape- In an online game, the act of killing spawning enemies before they leave the base.

Per Urban Dictionary.

Base Rape is nothing like Spawn Rape. Period.

Surround the base, or at the least form a semi circle perimeter and you are good.

Defending HD. 3 guys along left fence line, sniper by rock far left and by enemy base. Set up more people along the ridges and water, and you have a secure perimeter, a base camp, that the enemy can and may get by.

Spawn Kill, get to the spawn point, sit there, and say oh, bang, dead, oh bang dead. Talent, really.

eggzakery.

I am semi new to FPS on consoles and have played much more FPSs on the PC. I am pretty sure the terminology was defined by the PC community long before LIVE or PSN existed. Maybe I'm wrong? On top of that I ran my own 1942, BFV, and BF2 servers and was responsible for policing the servers where we had strict rules about spawn camping which was a bannable offense while base raping was ok. Other servers were no base rape but base camping was allowed. It didn't confuse many people back then and rarely had to ban people. I don't know why it's so misunderstood here.

[Jamesspade2]

Originally Posted by McChronic

eggzakery.

I am semi new to FPS on consoles and have played much more FPSs on the PC. I am pretty sure the terminology was defined by the PC community long before LIVE or PSN existed. Maybe I'm wrong? On top of that I ran my own 1942, BFV, and BF2 servers and was responsible for policing the servers where we had strict rules about spawn camping which was a bannable offense while base raping was ok. Other servers were no base rape but base camping was allowed. It didn't confuse many people back then and rarely had to ban people. I don't know why it's so misunderstood here.

Ya, same here. Last FPS was like in the 90's.

Think it was all defined very well back then.

[urskunked]

yes, i spawn kill.

there is nothing wrong with spawn killing. it is one team or one person or a group of people who dominate the other team and almost entirely control the game where the enemy has no chance to contribute. it wins games. it is a tactic, and a stragegy.

there is almost no difference in spawn camping/killing and base camping. the only difference being, spawn camping/ killing is just more effective. but by all means, whatever makes you sleep better at night.

[Ronin0ni]

there is a significant difference between not letting enemy out of their base, and inadvertently killing a few as they spawn (via mortar strike or they spawn in front of you while running around, so long as you aren't running in a pattern from 1 spawn to another anyways) and actually camping behind the exact spot killing them as they come in.

To even think that capping people as soon as they poke their head out of their base, or killing them the second they spawn w/o the chance to move 1 step are the same thing is just obvious you are just trying to justify your actions.

I am sick of "good" players (even though most of you are actually good) trying to defend killing people as they spawn. INTENTIONALLY. "but they did it first WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" "were just doing what all clans do" "It's part of the game"

lala, shut the **** up

all of you. It's stupid and you know it.

And yes, I can break out of any spawn camp so long as they don't have every spot covered with a knife, so it's not that I can't do it, it's just stupid. get over it.

[bluberrysmack]

I don't know every spawn area accept for a few since I really try to play the game. However, if someone is getting a flag on conquest or something and they don't know where people spawn. If the enemy pops up behind them like in a house and kill them, it's just as cheap since they magically appeared their. you can always spawn again and might get in a different spot or try spawning on a squad mate.

I had stupid moments where I got spawned camp and knew he was there, then I tried to spawn there again and again to get upset but it was my own fault since I knew he was their.

[jkasapi]

The Rules:
-Base camping at first base is out of order (i will tk anyone who does this)
-If you are still alive when a point is taken, then it is realistic to stay there, its there own risk
-However if you are intentionally hidding to get ur squad into their base to camp then it shudnt be happening
-Knifing is for lalalalalalas -explains its self

[Ronin0ni]

When you lose a base as defenders, your squad can't spawn on you... at least not usually... sometimes the code for that seems to glitch out, but I have, on many occasions, tried to spawn on squad after losing a base and it won't let me.

I think defenders spawn camping attackers is just lame and lalalalalalaed anyways... I've gone to the attackers base, but it's usually to hijack vehicles and bring them back, or lay some ATM's down on their roads and take out the arty, or repairing helo... I make a lot of noise, and it's not long before they oust me.

I don't even know the exact spawn locations... I don't pay attention. I don't even want the knowledge of where to look for the enemy to spawn. I have learned a few from sheer repetition of people appearing there in front of me, and it's usually because that spawn location happens to be in a great spot to overlook enemies trying to exit the base, or a good overlook of the flag (in CQ, where I got the most inadvertant spawn kills)

Want to trap them in their base? fine, some of them spawn in LoS from your overwatch? Hey, not our fault that some spawn locations are in lalalalalalaed locations, but abusing the spawn system is just weak guys. weak.

[jkasapi]

Originally Posted by Ronin0ni

When you lose a base as defenders, your squad can't spawn on you... at least not usually... sometimes the code for that seems to glitch out, but I have, on many occasions, tried to spawn on squad after losing a base and it won't let me.

I think defenders spawn camping attackers is just lame and lalalalalalaed anyways... I've gone to the attackers base, but it's usually to hijack vehicles and bring them back, or lay some ATM's down on their roads and take out the arty, or repairing helo... I make a lot of noise, and it's not long before they oust me.

I don't even know the exact spawn locations... I don't pay attention. I don't even want the knowledge of where to look for the enemy to spawn. I have learned a few from sheer repetition of people appearing there in front of me, and it's usually because that spawn location happens to be in a great spot to overlook enemies trying to exit the base, or a good overlook of the flag (in CQ, where I got the most inadvertant spawn kills)

Want to trap them in their base? fine, some of them spawn in LoS from your overwatch? Hey, not our fault that some spawn locations are in lalalalalalaed locations, but abusing the spawn system is just weak guys. weak.

Hey i just realised where i saw AoW, im guessing its a clan?
cus there was some AoW guy base camping on valley runs 1st base so i kept tk him becus it just ruins the point in playing the game-he then had the nerve to mock me about having low points-I had just tk him 4 times!

[georgethedog]

spawn campers or base rapers dont really bother me. each to their own style of play. But there is a time and a place for this kind of activity. The other night on Over & Out i joined the game at first attackers base just to get cold steel in my back within 0.5 seconds so i decided to check the score board.

i was in a team of 4 guys i was a rank 5 the other 3 were above rank 25
now ( and this is the bit that really made me sad ) the other team had 10 players all Green 2's or close and 6 of them were from the same 'top' clan

the question i ask myself is why are these 10 guys so afraid of us 4 that they have play the way they did. if i was on their team and i joined it to find i was party to 10 guys spawn camping against 4 i would have killed all my own team ( if i got the chance) surely they could have just defended the gold without having to stoop to the level of snakes. D12 .

[unit408bigpapij]

Originally Posted by Jamesspade2

One form of camping, considered by many players to be especially reprehensible, is spawn camping, also known as respawn or refresh camping, or Spawn Rape. A spawn camping player guards the positions where players are brought into the map when they are just entering the game or when they are revived after being killed ("respawn"). In fast-paced games, the camper has the advantage in that they are able to kill players before they have a chance to collect their starting weaponry or even before they get their bearings and sometimes can shoot them in their back every time.

Per Wikipedia.

Base Rape- In an online game, the act of killing spawning enemies before they leave the base.

Per Urban Dictionary.

Base Rape is nothing like Spawn Rape. Period.

Surround the base, or at the least form a semi circle perimeter and you are good.

Defending HD. 3 guys along left fence line, sniper by rock far left and by enemy base. Set up more people along the ridges and water, and you have a secure perimeter, a base camp, that the enemy can and may get by.

Spawn Kill, get to the spawn point, sit there, and say oh, bang, dead, oh bang dead. Talent, really.

We can get into exact definition if you like but we do not need to. The question posed is "Do you spawn kill?". Not do you "spawn camp". Spawn killing can be done from anywhere (vehicles can also spawn kill).

From Wikipedia:
Spawn camping is similar to base raping, another tactic which many players find annoying. It consists of a player (or players) mass attacking bases or spawn points that cannot be captured, killing players before they can react. Although it is similar to spawn camping, base raping is not a form of camping and is often done in an aircraft which often results in damage on a large scale. It is often a tactic many aviators use on Battlefield 2 and is considered as big of a nuisance as spawn camping.

What I am saying is this:
Timmy just got BFBC & put it in his XBOX for the first time. He plays un-ranked for an hour to get the hang of it & then goes for ranked. He joins a random game. He spawns, takes a step in a direction & is killed by a grenade. Timmy's reaction will be "hmmm,ok". He spawns again, this time, as he is taking his first step, mortar strike, dead, again, Timmy is scratching his head. 3rd time he spawns, is he now aware of his suroundings & knows the enemy is close by still. He spawns & runs for cover, sees the enemy but cant do anything about it cause they are camped in a building accross the way, he is deas again. At that point Timmy then says "Wow, these guys are spawn killing lalalalalalala", Timmy then leaves the game.

It was not a knife in the back that ruined Timmy's game, it was him being killed before he could do anything. You might not think of it as spawn killing but to the noob out there, it is spawn killing.

Originally Posted by Aslalalaamus

I'm going to start spawn healing enemies to counteract y'alls bad karma.

This is the funniest thing I have heard all day, I love it

Originally Posted by McChronic

eggzakery.

I am semi new to FPS on consoles and have played much more FPSs on the PC. I am pretty sure the terminology was defined by the PC community long before LIVE or PSN existed. Maybe I'm wrong? On top of that I ran my own 1942, BFV, and BF2 servers and was responsible for policing the servers where we had strict rules about spawn camping which was a bannable offense while base raping was ok. Other servers were no base rape but base camping was allowed. It didn't confuse many people back then and rarely had to ban people. I don't know why it's so misunderstood here.

Its not confusing, its opinions. Everyone has opinions of what spawn killing is. the truth is, that if you base rape, you will spawn kill, its hard to avoid (not spawn camp, spawn kill, which is killing people as they spawn)

Originally Posted by Ronin0ni

there is a significant difference between not letting enemy out of their base, and inadvertently killing a few as they spawn (via mortar strike or they spawn in front of you while running around, so long as you aren't running in a pattern from 1 spawn to another anyways) and actually camping behind the exact spot killing them as they come in.

To even think that capping people as soon as they poke their head out of their base, or killing them the second they spawn w/o the chance to move 1 step are the same thing is just obvious you are just trying to justify your actions.

I am sick of "good" players (even though most of you are actually good) trying to defend killing people as they spawn. INTENTIONALLY. "but they did it first WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" "were just doing what all clans do" "It's part of the game"

lala, shut the **** up

all of you. It's stupid and you know it.

And yes, I can break out of any spawn camp so long as they don't have every spot covered with a knife, so it's not that I can't do it, it's just stupid. get over it.

Inadvertently killing someone with a mortar strike or grenade to the spawn area? Your kidding me? A mortar strike is not an accident. Throwing 5 grenades in a spawn area is not an accident. Its done with the intent of killing someone.

Im sick of good players who say they "Base Rape" & deny they kill people as they spawn. or when they do its "accidently" but dont you dare call them a spawn killer. Killing someone who spawns while running through the base is the same to the person who you killed, they feel they were just "spawn killed"

Originally Posted by jkasapi

The Rules:
-Base camping at first base is out of order (i will tk anyone who does this)
-If you are still alive when a point is taken, then it is realistic to stay there, its there own risk
-However if you are intentionally hidding to get ur squad into their base to camp then it shudnt be happening
-Knifing is for lalalalalalas -explains its self

Are you talking about camping as a defender?

[jkasapi]

yesum

[kd123]

Yes I camp spawn points when at all possible, I like the mischief of base raping. All's fair in war...

[lordofthejewsjr]

i only do it if its done to me. or if its someone i dont like lol.

[unit408bigpapij]

Originally Posted by Ronin0ni

When you lose a base as defenders, your squad can't spawn on you... at least not usually... sometimes the code for that seems to glitch out, but I have, on many occasions, tried to spawn on squad after losing a base and it won't let me.

I think defenders spawn camping attackers is just lame and lalalalalalaed anyways... I've gone to the attackers base, but it's usually to hijack vehicles and bring them back, or lay some ATM's down on their roads and take out the arty, or repairing helo... I make a lot of noise, and it's not long before they oust me.

I don't even know the exact spawn locations... I don't pay attention. I don't even want the knowledge of where to look for the enemy to spawn. I have learned a few from sheer repetition of people appearing there in front of me, and it's usually because that spawn location happens to be in a great spot to overlook enemies trying to exit the base, or a good overlook of the flag (in CQ, where I got the most inadvertant spawn kills)

Want to trap them in their base? fine, some of them spawn in LoS from your overwatch? Hey, not our fault that some spawn locations are in lalalalalalaed locations, but abusing the spawn system is just weak guys. weak.

If i am defending a big map (Oasis, VR, EOTL) & you take my crates but do not clear the base out, im gonna stay in your base & kill as many of you as I can. I might even steal your tank & blow up vehicles & helo's as they spawn. Its a great way to win. Its the attacking teams fault for not clearing the base

Originally Posted by georgethedog

spawn campers or base rapers dont really bother me. each to their own style of play. But there is a time and a place for this kind of activity. The other night on Over & Out i joined the game at first attackers base just to get cold steel in my back within 0.5 seconds so i decided to check the score board.

i was in a team of 4 guys i was a rank 5 the other 3 were above rank 25
now ( and this is the bit that really made me sad ) the other team had 10 players all Green 2's or close and 6 of them were from the same 'top' clan

the question i ask myself is why are these 10 guys so afraid of us 4 that they have play the way they did. if i was on their team and i joined it to find i was party to 10 guys spawn camping against 4 i would have killed all my own team ( if i got the chance) surely they could have just defended the gold without having to stoop to the level of snakes. D12 .

You know what happens? The attacking team cant win anyhow. Im sure at some point, you stopped trying to get the crates & just started playing recon so you could kill. At that point, when you stop going for crates, I spawn kill or if im board, I leave

[lordofthejewsjr]

man papi, you wright essays when you respond to some one lol.