200KB Clan Support Feature!

[IGreyAreaI]

Here is what I am thinking. Bare minimum. Couldn't this be EASILY done?

Add the option "Private Match" to the difficulty selection. It fits there, because when you think about it, the new server isn't filled by rank anyway.

The rest is up to the server. The server reads the Private Match selection in the connect string, starts a room, but will not fill it. We do through friends lists. The room stays active for say 10 minutes, and starts when 3 people fill it, like the servers already do now anyway. Runs like a normal room just EA never fills it. The server closes when empty.

We make our own clan matches out of it. You have given us what we want in under 200KB, and we'll all stay loyal till the next console release with FULL CLAN SUPPORT!

Thoughts Gordon?

[djsy2008]

this should be merged with the other topic.
TBH!

[SpaceballsPlayer]

yes shoudlnt start new topics when one already on subject. it still leads question of who pays for hosting servers and how many you would need for private people.

[IGreyAreaI]

Originally Posted by SpaceballsPlayer

yes shoudlnt start new topics when one already on subject. it still leads question of who pays for hosting servers and how many you would need for private people.

I want to make sure Gordon reads it, as he specifically mentioned a 200kb limit, and I want that addressed without it getting lost with all the other irrelevant posting.

The servers can behave exactly as they do right now. The only difference is, they will recognize the private room request from your menu, and will start a new room that it will not fill with other players. Nothing else really has to change.

Think about it. These rooms you join are all virtual, and the server starts and ends games continually as needed.

[norm4260]

Hey GreyArea,

Even if DICE included this feature, without full team talk what good is a private match anyway?

Regards
norm360

PS. Where did Gordon mention the 200KB limit you talk of?

[dazzadavie]

Problem being how many private rooms could DICE's server handle? this has to be one reason why it was not included, I guess these are all on the same lines as BF:H so would need very high bandwidth and a lot of server space to handle the private rooms. Plus the client end would have to be able to look at the server and be told it cant join these rooms as there private.

PS3 owners does BF:BC install at all? Only once you can install on the 360 we would be able to install the game and hope they can include bigger updates and change more of the game like the PC versions of BF

[homelessdave]

i believe my copy of bf:bc has installed game data, to be honest i've lost track of how many games have installed stupid data

[X_BLaCKBeaRD_X]

You don't need full team chat to clan battle. All you need is to talk to your squad. Any strats you have should be discussed in whatever way your clan decides, but ahead of time. If you want full team chat all you have to do is use SKYPE. You can have all 12 members of your team in one conference call at the same time. All you need is a laptop or pc near your tv and you're good to go.

[GordonVanDyke]

I really admire your passion and love for this game and the desire to have an option to play in a Private match, but for the last time it is not that easy and if it was we would have added it. Anything I have read here or any where else we have already thought of and tried and you could offer us what ever your mind can come up with, but it will not change the facts. I have told you everything I could on this subject and I will no longer respond to any of these threads again unless things change on our end and like I said before "Don't hold your Breath."

P.S. I won't answer any direct questions on this subject, you can ask, but don't expect a reply.

[killing-stare]

Originally Posted by GordonVanDyke

I really admire your passion and love for this game and the desire to have an option to play in a Private match, but for the last time it is not that easy and if it was we would have added it. Anything I have read here or any where else we have already thought of and tried and you could offer us what ever your mind can come up with, but it will not change the facts. I have told you everything I could on this subject and I will no longer respond to any of these threads again unless things change on our end and like I said before "Don't hold your Breath."

P.S. I won't answer any direct questions on this subject, you can ask, but don't expect a reply.

Gordon, I have a question - and it's not about private rooms or whathaveyou.

You've made DICE's position pretty clear - Clan Support is unlikely and I'm
sure a lot of us here accept that or will come to accept it soon, so I ask you:

What kind of content or features CAN be added then? I mean let's be positive
here at least, 'cause I tire of reading on here what ISN'T possible - give us
some insight into what IS possible, what is within the realms of
feasibilty?

A clue, a hint... ANYTHING GVD!!

[bLuE-_-FuSiOn]

Clan support would be good but it would be hard to connect.

[IGreyAreaI]

Originally Posted by GordonVanDyke

I really admire your passion and love for this game and the desire to have an option to play in a Private match, but for the last time it is not that easy and if it was we would have added it. Anything I have read here or any where else we have already thought of and tried and you could offer us what ever your mind can come up with, but it will not change the facts. I have told you everything I could on this subject and I will no longer respond to any of these threads again unless things change on our end and like I said before "Don't hold your Breath."

P.S. I won't answer any direct questions on this subject, you can ask, but don't expect a reply.

Wow. I am starting to feel you are just blowing smoke Gordon. This suggestion cannot possible be more complicated than adding conquest mode to the game. I mean, come on Gordon. The server would have to do NOTHING different except not populate with players. You would add nothing except 1 option and 1 string telling the server of this option. You clearly have to ability to edit this menu - you added all the conquest menu options last update.

Here is a "Don't Hold Your Breath". Don't Hold Your Breath this franchise will thrive as you'd like if you keep ignoring your once loyal customers.

[SpaceballsPlayer]

now you see why people like Gordon dont bother posting in forums they spend whole time having to repeat themselfs. everygame ive got you have constant stream of computer experts who know how easy it is to do something yet never seem to have done anything. Igrey i was going to give you benifit of doubt but lets face it your an idiot, the conquest was probably coded into game before it came out and activated with the update for it.

[IGreyAreaI]

Originally Posted by norm4260

Hey GreyArea,

Even if DICE included this feature, without full team talk what good is a private match anyway?

Regards
norm360

PS. Where did Gordon mention the 200KB limit you talk of?

I see what you are saying. I agree to some extent. DICE really should have listened to its customers and kept full integrated clan support and chat features. Honestly, I was dumbfounded when they released this game without them. But be that as it may. I love the structure of this game, and know the battles you could have (had DICE cared to allow it) could be epic, even without full chat. We could go over strats in pre-game/chat.

Think about the intense games. Sending squads out with carefully planned teams and objectives. That spec ops and engineer combo.. Gordon's team probably remembers. When they developed this game they got to play it themselves, with ALL their friends/co workers in the same room. THEY prob remember what an epic battle is like on this game. Sadly, only the development team ever got to experience this!

As a business owner, I just don't get it. I have tried to look at this many ways. Maybe they want to discourage clan players - to make the game better for little kids.. Or maybe they don't want people to live on this title. After all, they have other titles to sell..

But in the end, I keep coming back to one fact. This title could have been, should have been, an XBOX Live top hit for a long time... But DICE just blew it, banking that a stupid quest for patches would keep people playing..

DICE - you guys really messed up your own franchise.. I say that not to just ***** - I think the lack of sustained traffic and play says it all.

I too am done with DICE.

[IGreyAreaI]

Originally Posted by SpaceballsPlayer

Igrey i was going to give you benifit of doubt but lets face it your an idiot, the conquest was probably coded into game before it came out and activated with the update for it.

You actually think this, and call me an idiot? Oh boy.

The reality is, people *****ed like hell when they left out conquest mode, and they scrambled to fix it, and did so after the fact, not before. Their patch was a response to the *****ing. If they can add a mode, they can add one single option on the menu that tells the server not to populate a new room.

[killing-stare]

Do we know what they can do? As you said Space, so many computer
experts here...

Maps? Sure, absolutely - what about something else though? Dynamic
weather? New player skins? Just small details that add to the overall
experience.

I mean look at Burnout Paradise - the DLC is adding all sorts of cool
stuff! I know they're 2 different games and 2 different developers,
but it does show what's achievable.

I'm sure if Gordon had his way then we'd have no real cause to complain,
but it's not as simple as that. I appreciate his (and any other DICE
representative's) presence on here and I for one would like it to stay that
way. Driving them away will do more harm than good.

Gray... I do understand your frustration at the same time also.

[djsy2008]

200kb limit is due to microsoft not dice, what can dice do to a software giant like MS?
Not Alot!

MAybe MS will think about its customers in the future.

[IGreyAreaI]

Originally Posted by djsy2008

200kb limit is due to microsoft not dice, what can dice do to a software giant like MS?
Not Alot!

MAybe MS will think about its customers in the future.

I don't buy this at all. WHY this limitation all of a suddend? Why can they add an entire feature, no problem, can still go in and edit the code to fix a bunch of things, no problem, but can't go in to add a single selection option.

IMO saying it can't be done is the best way for Gordon to shut up the requests. But I find it highly disingenuous. Sorry.

[djsy2008]

well the 200kb limit is not sonys fault or dice.
Its more because the devs have to cater for people without HDDS on there console.
Dice doesn;t know if joe bloggs on his 360 has a hard drive or not.

so they can't assume anything.
Unlike a ps3 or pc had a HDD 100% gaurenteed.

[IGreyAreaI]

Originally Posted by djsy2008

well the 200kb limit is not sonys fault or dice.
Its more because the devs have to cater for people without HDDS on there console.
Dice doesn;t know if joe bloggs on his 360 has a hard drive or not.

so they can't assume anything.
Unlike a ps3 or pc had a HDD 100% gaurenteed.

Understood.. But they did add Conquest as DLC. If they can add that, they can add 1 option on the menu. Not everyone has to use it.

I am starting to believe that for whatever reason, DICE simply does NOT want this game to have clan players on it.

[djsy2008]

Whichever way, thers going to be no clan support.

so maybe they shud just work on what they have... i think increasing sqaud sizes would do for many small clans to just join a game - but apart from that just play what u got now, its clear 200kb is not enough, my xp wallapaper is more than 200kb (356kb actually ) lol.

[SpaceballsPlayer]

Originally Posted by IGreyAreaI

You actually think this, and call me an idiot? Oh boy.

The reality is, people *****ed like hell when they left out conquest mode, and they scrambled to fix it, and did so after the fact, not before. Their patch was a response to the *****ing. If they can add a mode, they can add one single option on the menu that tells the server not to populate a new room.

In spite of a amazing engine, DICE screwed almost everything up on this game. They dropped clan support, dropped private rooms, won't let you vote kick teamkillers, won't let you have team chat, abandoned conquest mode.. ***.

do you even own the game igrey. everyone knew conquest was coming out later since it was up on the main menu saying so when the game was released. goldrush was ready so it was released with that mode. there was no rush because people cried it was missed out, they did cry they had to wait,but it wasnt added due to some outcry about it being missing.

[killzonekid1]

Private rooms will be a disaster, anything less than 8v8 on a huge map is a bit pathetic.

[dazzadavie]

Originally Posted by IGreyAreaI