$9.99 Clan Support Petition (SIGN)

X_BLaCKBeaRD_X · 09-10-2008, 12:54 AM

Anyone willing to pay a fee for DICE to add the much desired and needed clan support please sign. I'd be willing to pay a small amount, maybe around $10.00 USD for such an addition, anyone else?

-SIGNED

-BLaCKBeaRD_RaW (PS3)

LSGH-SmokeyMcPot · 09-10-2008, 01:19 AM

well it should have been included... but were past all that now i guess everyone being so friendly on here, but i need it so bad i'd pay

IGreyAreaI · 09-10-2008, 02:03 AM

I'd pay, gladly actually. I don't really care about the few bucks. I just want the feature.

curb47 · 09-10-2008, 08:59 AM

no way. Next you'll be suggesting paying for patches and updates just to get them out quicker. What kind of message does that give out devs? If you buy a product that is essentially broken, you get it changed or fixed for free, you don't PAY to have it fixed. Stinks of desperation.

killzonekid1 · 09-10-2008, 09:29 AM

I would pay for it. I'd also pay for more maps weapons and vehicles. But I would want DICE/EA to give me refund if something doesn't work as it should...fair is fair.

SpaceballsPlayer · 09-10-2008, 09:41 AM

they already said its to big a change to do on an update.

im sure theres no need to point out that its not broken, we all know the game didnt have clan support from start, so its not broken.
i want an a-10 thunderbolt but it dont make it broken.

LexLuther1004 · 09-10-2008, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by curb47

no way. Next you'll be suggesting paying for patches and updates just to get them out quicker. What kind of message does that give out devs? If you buy a product that is essentially broken, you get it changed or fixed for free, you don't PAY to have it fixed. Stinks of desperation.

Okay there Chicken Little, the sky isn't falling and you're still not making sense with your rants. This request is for a feature, not a fix, so quit your lame conspiracy theories before you have a Stroke.

I don't have time to play as a clan, but how ever they deliver it and if the deliver it I hope it is what you want.

curb47 · 09-10-2008, 10:34 AM

Interesting response. Chicken little? Lame conspiracy theories? Where? I see no conspiracy.

Do you not agree that clan support is a simple function that doesn't affect non-clan gamers, yet makes all the difference to clan-based gamers? So why was it never included in the first implementation of the game, especially when the BF series has such a strong clan-based history? Simple really, not a rant, not conspiracy.

I just think it's not right to suggest paying for a feature that should, by all accounts, have been included in the game from first release. But, as spaceballs said, it's very unlikely that it will ever be created for BF:BC, so not a big deal really.

X_BLaCKBeaRD_X · 09-10-2008, 10:37 AM

Look, GVD already stated it would take some work to add clan support. The game never had it so it's not broken. If it takes a little extra cash to provide the necessary motivation for the work needed to get this done than I'm willing to pay. They've already added CONQUEST and 8 maps to go along with it that weren't originally meant to be in the game for FREE, would you honestly expect them to go to the extent of adding clan support and not be charged? DICE PLEASE CHARGE MY CREDIT CARD AND GET THIS DONE. I'm not desperate, I just love the game and it will live for a long long time with this content and of course a mic fix for the PS3.

curb47 · 09-10-2008, 10:45 AM

ok. my mistake, when i said 'broken' i wasn't referring particularly to lack of clan support, but to the general glitches in the game... ie, broken mics for ps3.

Still a fun game to play either way you look at it. Can't see it lasting after the release of various other games on the immediate horizon though.

Oh... and the free maps? woopee doo... many people have stated that they don't play conquest, and much prefer goldrush... so where are the goldrush maps? Free maps for a game mode that 50% of your market don't particularly enjoy playing? Good call. If they had any sense they could have released 2 maps for goldrush, 2 maps for conquest to satisfy all their fans.

killing-stare · 09-10-2008, 10:54 AM

Blackbeard...

Your enthusiasm is admirable, but it's not simply a case of money
I'm afraid.

If I remember correctly GVD said they were looking at the feasibility of
adding clan support. It's best all of the people who want this feature so badly
must also prepare for the possibility that it might never happen.

At this point in time it's a frustrating unknown.

X_BLaCKBeaRD_X · 09-10-2008, 10:57 AM

They didn't have to add another game mode, but they did. Why? Because all the BF Vets complained about not having the best game mode of all time on the Battlefield series...CONQUEST. If I remember correctly, COD4 added new maps...but guess what? They charged. If you ever do see new maps for GR, expect to pay as well. I seriously doubt they wouldn't charge for them.

X_BLaCKBeaRD_X · 09-10-2008, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killing-stare

Blackbeard...

Your enthusiasm is admirable, but it's not simply a case of money
I'm afraid.

If I remember correctly GVD said they were looking at the feasibility of
adding clan support. It's best all of the people who want this feature so badly
must also prepare for the possibility that it might never happen.

At this point in time it's a frustrating unknown.

I know, I seriously have my doubts about the game ever seeing the support but hell, money motivates. =) It's a last hope.

IGreyAreaI · 09-10-2008, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killing-stare

Blackbeard...

Your enthusiasm is admirable, but it's not simply a case of money
I'm afraid.

If I remember correctly GVD said they were looking at the feasibility of
adding clan support. It's best all of the people who want this feature so badly
must also prepare for the possibility that it might never happen.

At this point in time it's a frustrating unknown.

I think whomever it was at DICE that recommended all clan and private room features be removed should be fired. I am a business owner, and it is only common sense to listen to your customers. IMO this will go down an an epic mess-up on the part of DICE. This game would be one of the top ones on XBOX Live right now if they only listened to the people that have been buying these games all along.

BTW - I'm no developer, but adding a simple private server feature has got to be FAR FAR less complicated than adding conquest mode.

killing-stare · 09-10-2008, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IGreyAreaI

I think whomever it was at DICE that recommended all clan and private room features be removed should be fired. I am a business owner, and it is only common sense to listen to your customers. IMO this will go down an an epic mess-up on the part of DICE. This game would be one of the top ones on XBOX Live right now if they only listened to the people that have been buying these games all along.

BTW - I'm no developer, but adding a simple private server feature has got to be FAR FAR less complicated than adding conquest mode.

I'm not disputing the fact it should have been there - indeed anyone who's
played the previous BF games would have been surprised at what was
omitted from this latest title.

As Co-Leader of a now disbanded clan I know too well the disappointment
of registering for Bad Company on Gamebattles, only to have the game
taken off the site entirely. Why? No private rooms, squad sizes etc etc...

If GVD says adding clan support and such is complicated then I'll have to
believe him as I'm no position to say otherwise with confidence. The lack
of definitive answers on the issue is worrying for sure, but unless we can
find another DICE developer who can say "Yay" or "Nay" then we'll have
to sit tight.

X_BLaCKBeaRD_X · 09-10-2008, 11:43 AM

Check voting results...GVD himself voted YES. =)

curb47 · 09-10-2008, 11:51 AM

Surely it's in his interest to encourage people to throw more money at dice?

killing-stare · 09-10-2008, 11:51 AM

He agreed the game needs it yes...
He hasn't actually said it CAN be done without a doubt however!

GordonVanDyke · 09-10-2008, 12:25 PM

Guys, don't take my vote too seriously. If we find a way to add this I would fight to have it free. And to be honest with you things are not looking good since we need to add these features into about 200KB of space. Keep your fingers and toes crossed, but don't hold your breath.

killing-stare · 09-10-2008, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GordonVanDyke

Guys, don't take my vote too seriously. If we find a way to add this I would fight to have it free. And to be honest with you things are not looking good since we need to add these features into about 200KB of space. Keep your fingers and toes crossed, but don't hold your breath.

200kb of space... Just to be clear Gordon, is that in terms of the 360 or
both consoles?

A LOT of PS3-owning folks would be pretty peed-off if it turns out they
couldn't get this feature because of M$...

And if this is a M$ update limit, can't you ask them to make an exception?

EDIT: I read somewhere just now there was a 350MB limit on
Xbox live but is that for games or updates? I know nothing about
such things. XD

SpaceballsPlayer · 09-10-2008, 01:50 PM

im not agasint it dont take me wrong, and as curb says its not money issue, paying $20 wont change fact the game was coded to do what it does, conquest was already part of game which is why it was simpler to add.

X_BLaCKBeaRD_X · 09-10-2008, 02:02 PM

Gordan, if you just add the minimum requirements (whatever they may be) and count on clan battle sites like gamebattles.com a little more in order to create matches and having "out of game" clan ladders, do you still think it will be hard to squeeze? Do these things even take up much space?

MulipTanUK · 09-10-2008, 02:25 PM

I will not pay for that, It should come out for free if they are going to bring it out.

IGreyAreaI · 09-10-2008, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X_BLaCKBeaRD_X

Gordan, if you just add the minimum requirements (whatever they may be) and count on clan battle sites like gamebattles.com a little more in order to create matches and having "out of game" clan ladders, do you still think it will be hard to squeeze? Do these things even take up much space?

Gordon,

I agree with BB. Don't get caught up with all the requests (full clan support/team chat etc etc.). Nice to have, but you only need ultimately 1 thing and 1 thing only. The ability to launch your own room, without EA populating it. Shoot, you don't even need to let us pick teams. We can enter and leave until we get the correct team. We can work out strats in our own voice chats, whatever.

We just need the private room. That is all.

ZonalFear · 09-10-2008, 03:47 PM

For the love that I have of the series, I'd pay £5 to have clan support added if it included a couple of weapons, too.

I'm curious Gordon - you mention a 200KB limit on updates (which I would assume is on the 360 side), couldn't you add this as some sort of DLC (Like Conquest?) - It's clans that really want this, and as a result, it'd be the clans paying for it. That shouldn't be too hard, surely?

And making clans pay for it would reimburse a little for the maintainence of your severs that you set aside for clans.

I'm not condoning making us pay tooth and nail for features, but a few games I'd make an exception of putting a few extra notes for the features me and my online friends want - Battlefield being one of them. For those unwilling to pay, we got conquest and 4 maps free of charge. We're getting another lot FoC I think (I'm sure I've read it somewhere...), but we'd begrude a few extra quid for what must be serious work on DICE's side. Things cost cash, and if we believe it's worth it, we should cough up. If you don't believe its worth it, don't cough up - Vote with your wallets.

View Poll Results: Would you pay for clan support?
YES, we need this asap.	26	60.47%
NO, we should get it free or not at all.	17	39.53%
Voters: 43. You may not vote on this poll

09-10-2008, 12:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
X_BLaCKBeaRD_X Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Age: 30 Posts: 85	$9.99 Clan Support Petition (SIGN) Anyone willing to pay a fee for DICE to add the much desired and needed clan support please sign. I'd be willing to pay a small amount, maybe around $10.00 USD for such an addition, anyone else? -SIGNED -BLaCKBeaRD_RaW (PS3)

09-10-2008, 09:41 AM	#6 (permalink)
SpaceballsPlayer Forum Guru Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: uk Posts: 1,368	they already said its to big a change to do on an update. im sure theres no need to point out that its not broken, we all know the game didnt have clan support from start, so its not broken. i want an a-10 thunderbolt but it dont make it broken. __________________ Last edited by SpaceballsPlayer; 09-10-2008 at 09:44 AM..

09-10-2008, 10:54 AM	#11 (permalink)
killing-stare Rookie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ayrshire, Bonnie Scotland. Age: 24 Posts: 215	Blackbeard... Your enthusiasm is admirable, but it's not simply a case of money I'm afraid. If I remember correctly GVD said they were looking at the feasibility of adding clan support. It's best all of the people who want this feature so badly must also prepare for the possibility that it might never happen. At this point in time it's a frustrating unknown. __________________ "GRANADA!!!"

09-10-2008, 10:57 AM	#12 (permalink)
X_BLaCKBeaRD_X Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Age: 30 Posts: 85	They didn't have to add another game mode, but they did. Why? Because all the BF Vets complained about not having the best game mode of all time on the Battlefield series...CONQUEST. If I remember correctly, COD4 added new maps...but guess what? They charged. If you ever do see new maps for GR, expect to pay as well. I seriously doubt they wouldn't charge for them. __________________ BLaCKBeaRD_RaW

09-10-2008, 01:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
LSGH-SmokeyMcPot Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 91	well it should have been included... but were past all that now i guess everyone being so friendly on here, but i need it so bad i'd pay

09-10-2008, 02:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
IGreyAreaI Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 45	I'd pay, gladly actually. I don't really care about the few bucks. I just want the feature.

09-10-2008, 08:59 AM	#4 (permalink)
curb47 Rookie Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: London, UK Age: 37 Posts: 300	no way. Next you'll be suggesting paying for patches and updates just to get them out quicker. What kind of message does that give out devs? If you buy a product that is essentially broken, you get it changed or fixed for free, you don't PAY to have it fixed. Stinks of desperation.

09-10-2008, 09:29 AM	#5 (permalink)
killzonekid1 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 147	I would pay for it. I'd also pay for more maps weapons and vehicles. But I would want DICE/EA to give me refund if something doesn't work as it should...fair is fair.

09-10-2008, 10:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
curb47 Rookie Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: London, UK Age: 37 Posts: 300	Interesting response. Chicken little? Lame conspiracy theories? Where? I see no conspiracy. Do you not agree that clan support is a simple function that doesn't affect non-clan gamers, yet makes all the difference to clan-based gamers? So why was it never included in the first implementation of the game, especially when the BF series has such a strong clan-based history? Simple really, not a rant, not conspiracy. I just think it's not right to suggest paying for a feature that should, by all accounts, have been included in the game from first release. But, as spaceballs said, it's very unlikely that it will ever be created for BF:BC, so not a big deal really.

09-10-2008, 10:37 AM	#9 (permalink)
X_BLaCKBeaRD_X Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Age: 30 Posts: 85	Look, GVD already stated it would take some work to add clan support. The game never had it so it's not broken. If it takes a little extra cash to provide the necessary motivation for the work needed to get this done than I'm willing to pay. They've already added CONQUEST and 8 maps to go along with it that weren't originally meant to be in the game for FREE, would you honestly expect them to go to the extent of adding clan support and not be charged? DICE PLEASE CHARGE MY CREDIT CARD AND GET THIS DONE. I'm not desperate, I just love the game and it will live for a long long time with this content and of course a mic fix for the PS3.

09-10-2008, 10:45 AM	#10 (permalink)
curb47 Rookie Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: London, UK Age: 37 Posts: 300	ok. my mistake, when i said 'broken' i wasn't referring particularly to lack of clan support, but to the general glitches in the game... ie, broken mics for ps3. Still a fun game to play either way you look at it. Can't see it lasting after the release of various other games on the immediate horizon though. Oh... and the free maps? woopee doo... many people have stated that they don't play conquest, and much prefer goldrush... so where are the goldrush maps? Free maps for a game mode that 50% of your market don't particularly enjoy playing? Good call. If they had any sense they could have released 2 maps for goldrush, 2 maps for conquest to satisfy all their fans.

09-10-2008, 11:43 AM	#16 (permalink)
X_BLaCKBeaRD_X Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Age: 30 Posts: 85	Check voting results...GVD himself voted YES. =) __________________ BLaCKBeaRD_RaW

09-10-2008, 11:51 AM	#17 (permalink)
curb47 Rookie Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: London, UK Age: 37 Posts: 300	Surely it's in his interest to encourage people to throw more money at dice?

09-10-2008, 11:51 AM	#18 (permalink)
killing-stare Rookie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ayrshire, Bonnie Scotland. Age: 24 Posts: 215	He agreed the game needs it yes... He hasn't actually said it CAN be done without a doubt however! __________________ "GRANADA!!!"

09-10-2008, 12:25 PM	#19 (permalink)
GordonVanDyke DICE Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Age: 34 Posts: 134	Guys, don't take my vote too seriously. If we find a way to add this I would fight to have it free. And to be honest with you things are not looking good since we need to add these features into about 200KB of space. Keep your fingers and toes crossed, but don't hold your breath.

09-10-2008, 01:50 PM	#21 (permalink)
SpaceballsPlayer Forum Guru Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: uk Posts: 1,368	im not agasint it dont take me wrong, and as curb says its not money issue, paying $20 wont change fact the game was coded to do what it does, conquest was already part of game which is why it was simpler to add. __________________

09-10-2008, 02:02 PM	#22 (permalink)
X_BLaCKBeaRD_X Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Age: 30 Posts: 85	Gordan, if you just add the minimum requirements (whatever they may be) and count on clan battle sites like gamebattles.com a little more in order to create matches and having "out of game" clan ladders, do you still think it will be hard to squeeze? Do these things even take up much space? __________________ BLaCKBeaRD_RaW

09-10-2008, 02:25 PM	#23 (permalink)
MulipTanUK Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Smoking Posts: 69	I will not pay for that, It should come out for free if they are going to bring it out.

09-10-2008, 03:47 PM	#25 (permalink)
ZonalFear Rookie Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Manchester, England Age: 23 Gender: Male Posts: 434	For the love that I have of the series, I'd pay £5 to have clan support added if it included a couple of weapons, too. I'm curious Gordon - you mention a 200KB limit on updates (which I would assume is on the 360 side), couldn't you add this as some sort of DLC (Like Conquest?) - It's clans that really want this, and as a result, it'd be the clans paying for it. That shouldn't be too hard, surely? And making clans pay for it would reimburse a little for the maintainence of your severs that you set aside for clans. I'm not condoning making us pay tooth and nail for features, but a few games I'd make an exception of putting a few extra notes for the features me and my online friends want - Battlefield being one of them. For those unwilling to pay, we got conquest and 4 maps free of charge. We're getting another lot FoC I think (I'm sure I've read it somewhere...), but we'd begrude a few extra quid for what must be serious work on DICE's side. Things cost cash, and if we believe it's worth it, we should cough up. If you don't believe its worth it, don't cough up - Vote with your wallets. __________________