EA leave out Autoaim

Agent_Rock_Lee · 29-05-2009, 08:49 AM

you guys included autoaim in the first game and now we got a bunch of idiots quickscoping people with sniper rifles from close range. People have many complaints but i have only 1 LEAVE OUT AUTOAIM

XShagrath · 29-05-2009, 03:03 PM

Agreed.

KylieDog · 29-05-2009, 03:45 PM

...or leave out quickscoping?

It isn't auto-aim anyway, is aim-assist.

Kevlaredd · 29-05-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent_Rock_Lee

you guys included autoaim in the first game and now we got a bunch of idiots quickscoping people with sniper rifles from close range. People have many complaints but i have only 1 LEAVE OUT AUTOAIM

it needs to be reduced significantly, not taken out. and we both no ea wont do it because the noobs wont play the game. you need a small amount of of auto aim on console. i mean, your using your thumb to aim man. pcs are different. there is no aim assist on pc games because its alot easier to control your aim with your hand then with your thumb.

WDAOPTIMUS · 29-05-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KylieDog

...or leave out quickscoping?

It isn't auto-aim anyway, is aim-assist.

lalalala!!!!!! I just have to ask, what’s difference between auto aim and assist.

Either way is terrible IMO, but I just wanted to know.

I'm sure they it would be a banable offense if it were on the PC.

flatfroggerx · 29-05-2009, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WDAOPTIMUS

lalalala!!!!!! I just have to ask, what’s difference between auto aim and assist.

Either way is terrible IMO, but I just wanted to know.

I'm sure they it would be a banable offense if it were on the PC.

Auto aim snaps your crosshair to the target at either at the press of a button or when you get close enough (kinda like when you enable that disability mode option on your PC to snap to icons and buttons etc).

Aim Assist is when it snaps to your crosshair when you are closer to it, no button press required, if its done right you don't notice it.

Yes it is an bannable offence on the PC lol, some games have it but ranked/secured servers stop you using it. If you want it to be on and play then you end up having to get an aimbot and we all know where that ends.

upNsmoke09 · 29-05-2009, 10:00 PM

lol i agree. i put the autoaim on for a while and it was the easiet thing ever. u just aim anywhere near the target, let go of the right thumbstick, and shoot. hahaha

however, it did spot some snipers that were hiding 2 feet in front of me from time to time. unfortunately, those encounters usually end with a walking bush teabagging my "killcam" and a knife in my eye socket.

so NO to aim assist rofl. :P

flatfroggerx · 29-05-2009, 10:14 PM

You can't say NO to aim assist on a console otherwise you would miss your target a lot. Controllers aren't that accurate, their precision and dead zones leave a lot to be desired.

Ronin0ni · 29-05-2009, 11:45 PM

Actually, I turned aim assist off on day 1.....

In fact, aim assist actually HAMPERS it's user. At least if they are any good. Heres the problem.

In BFBC you need to LEAD your targets, aim assist FOLLOWS your target as they move, but AT them, not AHEAD of them. If Aim Assist is on, it will keep snapping to be on target, which causes you to miss!!! Additionally, it snaps to torso, when all good players know in a 1on1 the man who can headshot wins.

So in reality, aim assist is ACTUALLY a BAD thing. It can help if the player with it on just really really sucks, then it will help them get hits, against stationary targets only, when they otherwise might not.

ALSO, it doesn't work when hip firing, so saying aim assit + QSing is total lala cause IT DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY.

Please get your facts straight before starting a lalala fest

upNsmoke09 · 30-05-2009, 12:07 AM

aim assist works when hip firing at a really short distance. like the 2 feet i was talkin about earlier, haven't you ever ran around and then all of your sudden ur screen jerks back a bit?

plus, i absolutely agree with roninhomie right here about bustin caps on dudes from far away. haha it's so counter productive. if ur zeroing on a stationary target, and his ally walks by, ur crosshairs snap to the moving dude.

i think aim assist is only helpful/lame/cheap in singleplayer, cuz those guys take like 2 shots to the finger to kill.

WDAOPTIMUS · 30-05-2009, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronin0ni

Actually, I turned aim assist off on day 1.....

In fact, aim assist actually HAMPERS it's user. At least if they are any good. Heres the problem.

In BFBC you need to LEAD your targets, aim assist FOLLOWS your target as they move, but AT them, not AHEAD of them. If Aim Assist is on, it will keep snapping to be on target, which causes you to miss!!! Additionally, it snaps to torso, when all good players know in a 1on1 the man who can headshot wins.

So in reality, aim assist is ACTUALLY a BAD thing. It can help if the player with it on just really really sucks, then it will help them get hits, against stationary targets only, when they otherwise might not.

ALSO, it doesn't work when hip firing, so saying aim assit + QSing is total lala cause IT DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY.

Please get your facts straight before starting a lalala fest

Wow, so it’s auto aim for the torso? If it’s on according to your statement, although it’s a good thing you’re a “GOOD” player and don’t use. I do agree that with you that anyone using it “really sucks”. I find it unbelievable that such a thing would even be in games. On the PC platform if using such devices is BANNED and said player would need to get a new game or CD key.

So this is something that you can turn on and off in game via the console options menu? Is it allowed during a match? I’m just curious how this works; it would seem it gives the one using it a slight advantage in some areas, but not in others. With it on can you still aim for HS or does it snap right to the body and then you aim?

Ronin0ni · 30-05-2009, 12:52 AM

It really doesn't snap much. I turned it back on just to see it's effect after people kept lalalaling about it, and honestly I couldn't see it's effect much. Things I noticed...

Shotguns WERE totally n00by, WAAAY to easy with aim assist on. ONLY "pro" to having it though...

When trying to lead a running target it would occasionally snap to the target, causing me to lose my lead, I then had to over exagerate my lead to get back off target and be careful not to get to close while leading.

When firing at a stationary target, if another enemy ran between me and him, my aim would follow the guy running past, resulting in me losing the 1on1.

aiming for the head seemed harder with it on as well, I got fewer headshots.

All in all I did noticibly worse. not total epic fail, but not as good as I should have been doing. It CAN help newbies, but honestly, I don't mind them having a handicap.

My opinion is leave it in... good players need to turn it off to get their full ability, bad players can leave it on since it can make an awful player into an almost ok player

Only thing I would change is how it affected running around with the shotgun... it honestly was a bit OP... but then again, I don't let shotguns get near me often

1Bryce1 · 30-05-2009, 02:21 AM

When does aim-assist kick in? Do I have to press another button for PS3 because I have never noticed any assist even with a shotty?

TheGoldenAce · 30-05-2009, 02:25 AM

I would like them to remove it...

skullfart · 30-05-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronin0ni

ALSO, it doesn't work when hip firing, so saying aim assit + QSing is total lala cause IT DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY.

Please get your facts straight before starting a lalala fest

But QSing is an exploit that circumvents the hip fire penalty - it isn't hip firing at all - right? So surely, griping about QS+aim assist is a reasonable complaint, isn't it?

Anyway, like you, I disabled aim assist on day one as well (was fairly disgusted to find it in the game at all, tbh). At least there was the option to turn it off; I mean, who's playing the goddamn game anyway? I don't want the bloody XBox making my decisions for me. I can't stand games in which the reticule drags across the screen seemingly with a will of its own, when that happens it makes me look down at the controller and wonder what it's for...

FootFingers · 30-05-2009, 10:32 AM

remove for ranked play.

Butchess · 12-11-2009, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FootFingers

remove for ranked play.

at least!

Auto aim is for noobs... and my grandma. She's not too good at the aiming thing

WDAOPTIMUS · 12-11-2009, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by FootFingers

remove for ranked play.

+1 Plus, no quick scoping!

M4 Ownag3 · 12-11-2009, 02:52 AM

There isn't supposed to be any quick scoping in bfbc2. There's a link to one of the Dice employees stating this, but I'm really too lazy to search.

Butchess · 12-11-2009, 04:00 AM

Yeah, they already got rid of it (apparently)

HellBeNt187 · 12-11-2009, 04:11 AM

Aim assist slows the turn sensitivity down to a lower setting when the cross hair passes over an enemy soldier. If your turn sensitivity is at '10' and your cross hairs pass over an enemy, the turn speed will be reduced to say '4'.

For skilled players, this throws their timing off because the turn sensitivity is constantly changing. In short, it helps less skilled analog stick players, but throws more skilled players timing off.

It took me years and many hours to get good enough with analog stick controls to play without aim assist. I'm finally to that level though, and I don't mind if it's in the game because a skilled player does better with it off.

As long as there is an option to disable aim assist for skilled players, I'm happy. This actually gives skilled players an even greater edge over aim assist players.

dbmountain · 12-11-2009, 04:43 AM

the first thing i did when i got bc was turn off the aim-assist, whoever said that it was necessary to play decently is ignorant as fcuk

knockstock · 12-11-2009, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dbmountain

the first thing i did when i got bc was turn off the aim-assist, whoever said that it was necessary to play decently is ignorant as fcuk

Ur my hero

VectorRoll · 12-11-2009, 04:36 PM

I never really noticed a difference with it on or off. To me it just seems as one of those feature that we had but was never really there. Like the Hard Mode. Neither of them really made a difference about anything. It is like the just forgot to add them in. At least that is how I saw it. I could be wrong, but everything just seemed the same to me.

If they are going to have it, then they should at least make sure it works and explain it. Like they just did with the new Hard Mode for BC2. I do not remember them doing anything like that for BC. Maybe I missed that too. Who knows. As long as the features we have work, everything should be fine. Plus we should be able to choose either to play on servers with them on or off. It is not like some will play with it on while others play the same sever with it off. That is how such things should work in theory.

Killzone_Kid · 12-11-2009, 04:37 PM

There is no 'auto aim' in BC2.

29-05-2009, 08:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
Agent_Rock_Lee Rookie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Assault players run this war Posts: 436	EA leave out Autoaim you guys included autoaim in the first game and now we got a bunch of idiots quickscoping people with sniper rifles from close range. People have many complaints but i have only 1 LEAVE OUT AUTOAIM

29-05-2009, 10:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
flatfroggerx Forum Junkie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,931	You can't say NO to aim assist on a console otherwise you would miss your target a lot. Controllers aren't that accurate, their precision and dead zones leave a lot to be desired. __________________ *No longer buying any EA PC game which includes Limited Activations, I do NOT* endorse Limited Activations Opt for Securom Activation FREE versions of EA games through fairer services like steam**

29-05-2009, 11:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ronin0ni Elite Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cali. In the United States of No More Rights Posts: 8,819	Actually, I turned aim assist off on day 1..... In fact, aim assist actually HAMPERS it's user. At least if they are any good. Heres the problem. In BFBC you need to LEAD your targets, aim assist FOLLOWS your target as they move, but AT them, not AHEAD of them. If Aim Assist is on, it will keep snapping to be on target, which causes you to miss!!! Additionally, it snaps to torso, when all good players know in a 1on1 the man who can headshot wins. So in reality, aim assist is ACTUALLY a BAD thing. It can help if the player with it on just really really sucks, then it will help them get hits, against stationary targets only, when they otherwise might not. ALSO, it doesn't work when hip firing, so saying aim assit + QSing is total lala cause IT DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY. Please get your facts straight before starting a lalala fest __________________ In refute to almost EVERY complaint (save 2-3 maybe) about BFBC2: Adapt and overcome "The road to peace is paved in blood"

30-05-2009, 12:52 AM	#12 (permalink)
Ronin0ni Elite Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cali. In the United States of No More Rights Posts: 8,819	It really doesn't snap much. I turned it back on just to see it's effect after people kept lalalaling about it, and honestly I couldn't see it's effect much. Things I noticed... Shotguns WERE totally n00by, WAAAY to easy with aim assist on. ONLY "pro" to having it though... When trying to lead a running target it would occasionally snap to the target, causing me to lose my lead, I then had to over exagerate my lead to get back off target and be careful not to get to close while leading. When firing at a stationary target, if another enemy ran between me and him, my aim would follow the guy running past, resulting in me losing the 1on1. aiming for the head seemed harder with it on as well, I got fewer headshots. All in all I did noticibly worse. not total epic fail, but not as good as I should have been doing. It CAN help newbies, but honestly, I don't mind them having a handicap. My opinion is leave it in... good players need to turn it off to get their full ability, bad players can leave it on since it can make an awful player into an almost ok player Only thing I would change is how it affected running around with the shotgun... it honestly was a bit OP... but then again, I don't let shotguns get near me often __________________ In refute to almost EVERY complaint (save 2-3 maybe) about BFBC2: Adapt and overcome "The road to peace is paved in blood"

30-05-2009, 02:21 AM	#13 (permalink)
1Bryce1 Forum Junkie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: "SF Bay Area" San Jose, California Gender: Male Posts: 2,709	When does aim-assist kick in? Do I have to press another button for PS3 because I have never noticed any assist even with a shotty? __________________ PSN: x1BrYcE1x Join PS3 Beta Group

29-05-2009, 03:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
XShagrath Rookie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sweden Gender: Male Posts: 45	Agreed.

29-05-2009, 03:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
KylieDog Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 740	...or leave out quickscoping? It isn't auto-aim anyway, is aim-assist.

29-05-2009, 10:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
upNsmoke09 Rookie Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 176	lol i agree. i put the autoaim on for a while and it was the easiet thing ever. u just aim anywhere near the target, let go of the right thumbstick, and shoot. hahaha however, it did spot some snipers that were hiding 2 feet in front of me from time to time. unfortunately, those encounters usually end with a walking bush teabagging my "killcam" and a knife in my eye socket. so NO to aim assist rofl. :P

30-05-2009, 12:07 AM	#10 (permalink)
upNsmoke09 Rookie Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 176	aim assist works when hip firing at a really short distance. like the 2 feet i was talkin about earlier, haven't you ever ran around and then all of your sudden ur screen jerks back a bit? plus, i absolutely agree with roninhomie right here about bustin caps on dudes from far away. haha it's so counter productive. if ur zeroing on a stationary target, and his ally walks by, ur crosshairs snap to the moving dude. i think aim assist is only helpful/lame/cheap in singleplayer, cuz those guys take like 2 shots to the finger to kill.

30-05-2009, 02:25 AM	#14 (permalink)
TheGoldenAce Forum Guru Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Petaluma, Northern California Gender: Male Posts: 2,131	I would like them to remove it... __________________

30-05-2009, 10:32 AM	#16 (permalink)
FootFingers Forum Junkie Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: In the Mountains. Age: 19 Gender: Female Posts: 3,893	remove for ranked play.

12-11-2009, 02:52 AM	#19 (permalink)
M4 Ownag3 Rookie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Alabama...I painted one of my fields blue to kill ducks when they land thinking it's water. Age: 14 Gender: Male Posts: 277	There isn't supposed to be any quick scoping in bfbc2. There's a link to one of the Dice employees stating this, but I'm really too lazy to search.

12-11-2009, 04:00 AM	#20 (permalink)
Butchess Rookie Join Date: Mar 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 243	Yeah, they already got rid of it (apparently) __________________ My Gamertag a Squirrel5

12-11-2009, 04:11 AM	#21 (permalink)
HellBeNt187 Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Michigan, USA Gender: Male Posts: 695	Aim assist slows the turn sensitivity down to a lower setting when the cross hair passes over an enemy soldier. If your turn sensitivity is at '10' and your cross hairs pass over an enemy, the turn speed will be reduced to say '4'. For skilled players, this throws their timing off because the turn sensitivity is constantly changing. In short, it helps less skilled analog stick players, but throws more skilled players timing off. It took me years and many hours to get good enough with analog stick controls to play without aim assist. I'm finally to that level though, and I don't mind if it's in the game because a skilled player does better with it off. As long as there is an option to disable aim assist for skilled players, I'm happy. This actually gives skilled players an even greater edge over aim assist players. __________________

12-11-2009, 04:43 AM	#22 (permalink)
dbmountain Rookie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: British Columbia Posts: 359	the first thing i did when i got bc was turn off the aim-assist, whoever said that it was necessary to play decently is ignorant as fcuk __________________ #12195 SPAS-12 Almost there!!!

12-11-2009, 04:36 PM	#24 (permalink)
VectorRoll Battlefield Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: US Gender: Male Posts: 5,828	I never really noticed a difference with it on or off. To me it just seems as one of those feature that we had but was never really there. Like the Hard Mode. Neither of them really made a difference about anything. It is like the just forgot to add them in. At least that is how I saw it. I could be wrong, but everything just seemed the same to me. If they are going to have it, then they should at least make sure it works and explain it. Like they just did with the new Hard Mode for BC2. I do not remember them doing anything like that for BC. Maybe I missed that too. Who knows. As long as the features we have work, everything should be fine. Plus we should be able to choose either to play on servers with them on or off. It is not like some will play with it on while others play the same sever with it off. That is how such things should work in theory. __________________ Battlefield Series \| Battlefield ROC \| Forum Rules \| Forum FAQ's PSN: VectorRoll HelpGuide For Router Settings. BF2142 Fullscreen & Widescreen Resolution Guide.

12-11-2009, 04:37 PM	#25 (permalink)
Killzone_Kid Forum Junkie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: London, UK Age: 39 Posts: 2,512	There is no 'auto aim' in BC2.