DICE Dev Reponses?

blingblaine · 06-12-2009, 11:27 AM

So are they responding with patch info (or any info at all) yet?

vijx · 06-12-2009, 03:47 PM

Lol 1943 hasn't been patched yet...

Nope. BC2 will be released in its current form.

Malv0lio · 06-12-2009, 04:25 PM

They lock threads, and tell people to play nice. Most likely its their stance to provide no information on the development process.

I would reserve judgement for the demo. Personally I will download the demo see if they fixed the issues that bother me (recon, kits, prox mines etc..) and if not I just wont buy the game.

PatrickMP · 06-12-2009, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malv0lio

They lock threads, and tell people to play nice. Most likely its their stance to provide no information on the development process.

I would reserve judgement for the demo. Personally I will download the demo see if they fixed the issues that bother me (recon, kits, prox mines etc..) and if not I just wont buy the game.

I agree. I wont buy the game if a lot of things will not change on the demo. I think that if DICE will not change a minimum of items that appear on this poll with 40% of votes, nobody would be buy the game.

The Final POLL

blingblaine · 06-12-2009, 08:02 PM

Wow how lame, looks like a sales gimmick to sell more PS3 copies.

After all the direct dev interaction with the MAG Beta, I guess Im spoiled but, they should addreess the communty @least bi-weekly.

Otherwise alot of testers will not return.

Why even open to the public?

RiotNBG · 06-12-2009, 08:28 PM

DICE!!! DIIIICE!!!! HEY!!!

Can we please get a word from you, its been a while since beta was released, and theres no patch, no official todo list, nothing, we give you a lot of players for the beta, lots of response, lots of statistical data, and we get... uuuh, nothing?

Thats lalalalalalalala. lalalalalalalala

azarimy · 06-12-2009, 08:51 PM

there are at least two members of the development team who've been replying in threads here. i think it's best if u guys look up their replies, coz it doesnt seem they would reply threads like this.

if u're feeling extra helpful, maybe u could collect their statements and put it in a special thread?

Splatish · 06-12-2009, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malv0lio

They lock threads, and tell people to play nice. Most likely its their stance to provide no information on the development process.

I would reserve judgement for the demo. Personally I will download the demo see if they fixed the issues that bother me (recon, kits, prox mines etc..) and if not I just wont buy the game.

1. No they don't lock threads. EA mods do that not DICE.

2. Since when was this a demo? Demo isn't out till next year......

33WH-LC2K-QE2P-7 · 06-12-2009, 08:58 PM

The ticker at the bottom on the main screen says "thanks for all your feedback, keep it coming. We are working hard to fullfill your wishes."

and P.S. DICE, I love BFBC2 and will already buy it even if you don't change a thing. Keep Battlefield Battlefield!

Twinblade · 06-12-2009, 09:01 PM

Sometimes i feel like DICE listens to the community less than infinity Ward

AlphaWolF76 · 06-12-2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Twinblade

Sometimes i feel like DICE listens to the community less than infinity Ward

HAHAHAHAHAHA even if they took a vow of silence they still would not be as bad as IW ,, thats not even possible EVER!

I agree that they need to communicate with us ,keep us in the loop whats the beta progress ? whats going to be changed ?
where are the polls asking us what we think ? WILL THERE BE ANY OTHER MAPS OR AIRCRAFT TO TEST OUT BEFORE RETAIL?

blingblaine · 06-12-2009, 11:33 PM

Sony BFBC2 Beta forum will be live soon....I hope

Xenoxerxes · 06-12-2009, 11:36 PM

I know this forum isn't always civilized and respectful but it would be nice if Dice gave more feedback to the beta testers.

slicedlime · 07-12-2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by azarimy

if u're feeling extra helpful, maybe u could collect their statements and put it in a special thread?

+1.

See, but that would actually be useful to people. Hell freezes over

o-_I3LaCkRoSe_-o · 07-12-2009, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slicedlime

+1.

See, but that would actually be useful to people. Hell freezes over

You guys have actually posted quite a bit in the forums to random things. People just haven't took notice.

azarimy · 07-12-2009, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slicedlime

+1.

See, but that would actually be useful to people. Hell freezes over

you're too late! it's already here!

Unofficial DICE responses

now i'm on to you....hehehe...

Joelteon7 · 07-12-2009, 08:31 PM

Indeed. There's actually been an awful lot of dev response, by some who don't usually post too.

Such is the way of not having a 'marker' for a thread that when hit, links you to a dev comment. Obviously, it's swings and roundabouts; a thread with a dev marker can sometimes garner more attention that it should with people going "plz reply to X, Y and Z!!!" even though it's not related.

What would be cool is when the demo hits, DICE are able to provide some sort of comparison chart, detailing what they've changed from the beta. That may be too much and some of it would undoubtedly be too technical for most of us to even grasp, so some flexibility would obviously be prudent. I would imagine many 360 gamers (and to a lesser extent PC gamers who obviously won't be betaing for a bit) who frequent the forums (such as my self) know what went into the beta and have been following it.

Obviously, that's entirely up to DICE. I would imagine though they have a build comparison list. Something like that could surely be pruned and published on here?
(Especially if we suggested a large delivery of muffins could be sent your way...)

Ronin0ni · 07-12-2009, 08:31 PM

A few things I should point out.

#1 there will be NO patch updates to the beta. You will see some gun balance changes and a few other things they can tweak server side, but all client side updates won't be seen until the demo next year... THEY ARE WORKING ON IT THOUGH. Confirmed changes include (but not limited to): Adding more Obj points, fixing ATM hit reg, Color saturation, weapon icons instead of names when plaer kills player, i forget what else....

#2 They have replied a # of times in a number of threads.... I should know, I read a ton of them

#3 they have better things to do then quibble with users. They will read your feedback, and reply when they feel it's warranted, but generally, all they need is feedback and work with it. They don't even need to log in to read it, so why should they and attract more posts demanding this, explanations for that, etc.

thesamy · 07-12-2009, 09:08 PM

guys do u think DICE will show the bugs that thay fix in the pc beta?
or becuse its a diffrent platform its gonna be like the consol beta and have its on bugs?

Joelteon7 · 07-12-2009, 09:11 PM

Different console will have a different impact. This will be the first demonstration of Frostbite on the PC. Expect a lot of problems.

Ronin0ni · 07-12-2009, 09:30 PM

Yah, why do you think 1943 got so delayed? Actually, I think partially they were waiting on Win7 + Dx11... but also just issues with frostbite on PC was the main cause.

New gaming engine first time on PC.... oh yes, there will be bugs.

Look at BFBC1 on 360.... and that was with only having to keep a single (well 2) hardware configurations in mind.

Joelteon7 · 07-12-2009, 09:33 PM

I agree. 1943 was undoubtedly pushed back due to performance/engine issues. I still expect BC2 PC adopters will have some sort of purchase advantage in getting 1943.

Sebrazac · 07-12-2009, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatrickMP

I agree. I wont buy the game if a lot of things will not change on the demo. I think that if DICE will not change a minimum of items that appear on this poll with 40% of votes, nobody would be buy the game.

The Final POLL

that poll is a biased pos, nobody should take any notice of it. You shouldn't attach on your hopes and dreams on how much notice ppl pay to your poll

Ronin0ni · 07-12-2009, 09:39 PM

^Wuh he sed

Polls are always biased... people who agree with you are 2-4 times as likely to vote then people who disagree.

I try to write unbiased polls both in phrasing of the question and the phrasing of the choices, yet they are still biased.

Hell, the people your asking only makes up for a minority of the total gamers

RiotNBG · 07-12-2009, 09:42 PM

QUOTE OF DICE GUY
+1.

See, but that would actually be useful to people. Hell freezes over

END OF QUOTE

Oh, great, if my employees would give a statement like that to their future customers, i would kick their lalalalala.

You Dice guys could make an offical statement to the situation in beta, but thats asked to much obviously.
You dont give a lalalala what we would like to know. Thank you very much for that.

06-12-2009, 11:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
blingblaine Rookie Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 12	DICE Dev Reponses? So are they responding with patch info (or any info at all) yet?

06-12-2009, 03:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
vijx Forum Guru Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: A post-apocolyptic underground command center Posts: 2,335	Lol 1943 hasn't been patched yet... Nope. BC2 will be released in its current form. __________________ Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time

06-12-2009, 08:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
blingblaine Rookie Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 12	why even open beta Wow how lame, looks like a sales gimmick to sell more PS3 copies. After all the direct dev interaction with the MAG Beta, I guess Im spoiled but, they should addreess the communty @least bi-weekly. Otherwise alot of testers will not return. Why even open to the public? __________________

06-12-2009, 08:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
azarimy Forum Guru Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: btwn Sheffield and Kuala Lumpur Age: 33 Posts: 1,649	there are at least two members of the development team who've been replying in threads here. i think it's best if u guys look up their replies, coz it doesnt seem they would reply threads like this. if u're feeling extra helpful, maybe u could collect their statements and put it in a special thread? __________________

06-12-2009, 11:33 PM	#12 (permalink)
blingblaine Rookie Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 12	Sony BFBC2 Beta forum will be live soon....I hope __________________

06-12-2009, 04:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
Malv0lio Rookie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 63	They lock threads, and tell people to play nice. Most likely its their stance to provide no information on the development process. I would reserve judgement for the demo. Personally I will download the demo see if they fixed the issues that bother me (recon, kits, prox mines etc..) and if not I just wont buy the game.

06-12-2009, 08:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
RiotNBG Rookie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 17	DICE!!! DIIIICE!!!! HEY!!! Can we please get a word from you, its been a while since beta was released, and theres no patch, no official todo list, nothing, we give you a lot of players for the beta, lots of response, lots of statistical data, and we get... uuuh, nothing? Thats lalalalalalalala. lalalalalalalala

06-12-2009, 08:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
33WH-LC2K-QE2P-7 Rookie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 103	The ticker at the bottom on the main screen says "thanks for all your feedback, keep it coming. We are working hard to fullfill your wishes." and P.S. DICE, I love BFBC2 and will already buy it even if you don't change a thing. Keep Battlefield Battlefield!

06-12-2009, 09:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
Twinblade Forum Guru Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,890	Sometimes i feel like DICE listens to the community less than infinity Ward

06-12-2009, 11:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
Xenoxerxes Rookie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 45	I know this forum isn't always civilized and respectful but it would be nice if Dice gave more feedback to the beta testers.

07-12-2009, 08:31 PM	#17 (permalink)
Joelteon7 Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, England Posts: 994	Indeed. There's actually been an awful lot of dev response, by some who don't usually post too. Such is the way of not having a 'marker' for a thread that when hit, links you to a dev comment. Obviously, it's swings and roundabouts; a thread with a dev marker can sometimes garner more attention that it should with people going "plz reply to X, Y and Z!!!" even though it's not related. What would be cool is when the demo hits, DICE are able to provide some sort of comparison chart, detailing what they've changed from the beta. That may be too much and some of it would undoubtedly be too technical for most of us to even grasp, so some flexibility would obviously be prudent. I would imagine many 360 gamers (and to a lesser extent PC gamers who obviously won't be betaing for a bit) who frequent the forums (such as my self) know what went into the beta and have been following it. Obviously, that's entirely up to DICE. I would imagine though they have a build comparison list. Something like that could surely be pruned and published on here? (Especially if we suggested a large delivery of muffins could be sent your way...) __________________ Smoke grenades are useful. Use them on the battlefield, soldier!

07-12-2009, 08:31 PM	#18 (permalink)
Ronin0ni Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cali. In the United States of No More Rights Posts: 12,010	A few things I should point out. #1 there will be NO patch updates to the beta. You will see some gun balance changes and a few other things they can tweak server side, but all client side updates won't be seen until the demo next year... THEY ARE WORKING ON IT THOUGH. Confirmed changes include (but not limited to): Adding more Obj points, fixing ATM hit reg, Color saturation, weapon icons instead of names when plaer kills player, i forget what else.... #2 They have replied a # of times in a number of threads.... I should know, I read a ton of them #3 they have better things to do then quibble with users. They will read your feedback, and reply when they feel it's warranted, but generally, all they need is feedback and work with it. They don't even need to log in to read it, so why should they and attract more posts demanding this, explanations for that, etc.

07-12-2009, 09:08 PM	#19 (permalink)
thesamy Rookie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 6	guys do u think DICE will show the bugs that thay fix in the pc beta? or becuse its a diffrent platform its gonna be like the consol beta and have its on bugs?

07-12-2009, 09:11 PM	#20 (permalink)
Joelteon7 Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, England Posts: 994	Different console will have a different impact. This will be the first demonstration of Frostbite on the PC. Expect a lot of problems. __________________ Smoke grenades are useful. Use them on the battlefield, soldier!

07-12-2009, 09:30 PM	#21 (permalink)
Ronin0ni Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cali. In the United States of No More Rights Posts: 12,010	Yah, why do you think 1943 got so delayed? Actually, I think partially they were waiting on Win7 + Dx11... but also just issues with frostbite on PC was the main cause. New gaming engine first time on PC.... oh yes, there will be bugs. Look at BFBC1 on 360.... and that was with only having to keep a single (well 2) hardware configurations in mind.

07-12-2009, 09:33 PM	#22 (permalink)
Joelteon7 Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, England Posts: 994	I agree. 1943 was undoubtedly pushed back due to performance/engine issues. I still expect BC2 PC adopters will have some sort of purchase advantage in getting 1943. __________________ Smoke grenades are useful. Use them on the battlefield, soldier!

07-12-2009, 09:39 PM	#24 (permalink)
Ronin0ni Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cali. In the United States of No More Rights Posts: 12,010	^Wuh he sed Polls are always biased... people who agree with you are 2-4 times as likely to vote then people who disagree. I try to write unbiased polls both in phrasing of the question and the phrasing of the choices, yet they are still biased. Hell, the people your asking only makes up for a minority of the total gamers

07-12-2009, 09:42 PM	#25 (permalink)
RiotNBG Rookie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 17	QUOTE OF DICE GUY +1. See, but that would actually be useful to people. Hell freezes over END OF QUOTE Oh, great, if my employees would give a statement like that to their future customers, i would kick their lalalalala. You Dice guys could make an offical statement to the situation in beta, but thats asked to much obviously. You dont give a lalalala what we would like to know. Thank you very much for that. Last edited by RiotNBG; 07-12-2009 at 09:44 PM.

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