Vehicle packages - what do they do?

raubhamster · 09-03-2010, 09:45 PM

As there is nothing about the different vehicle specialization in the manual I try to collect here the different specialization and how they affect each vehicle/tool in BC2! You all are welcome to help me!

Update: Weapons damage/spec charts for all 3 spec slots: http://bfbc2info.blogspot.com/

Vehicle motion sensor
Every vehicle has a motion sensor which reveals enemy units close to you on the map

Active armor package
Gives additional armor to every vehicle

Improved warheads package
Vehicles and tools do more damage

Alternate weapons package
Affects these vehicles (driver's secondary fire):

M3A3 Bradley - tow missile launcher
BMD-3 Bakhcha - mg
M1A2 Abrams - mg
T-90 MBT - mg

AH-64 Apache - adds a homing missile that can lock onto tracer darts
MI-28 Havoc - adds a homing missile that can lock onto tracer darts

UAV - mg

Smoke countermeasures package
affects these vehicles (driver's secondary fire, ~ 21 seconds to reload the smokelauncher):
M3A3 Bradley
BMD-3 Bakhcha
M1A2 Abrams
T-90 MBT
UAV - smoke grenades

Quick reload package
affects every vehicles primary fire mode

High power optics
drivers get a zoom (secondary fire), this affects:

M3A3 Bradley
BMD-3 Bakhcha
M1A2 Abrams
T-90 MBT
UAV

I will update this thread at least once a day!
Post what you found out so far and correct me, if I said something wrong!

Here is a list of all vehicles:

Light vehicles:
HMMWV 4WD
Vodnik 4WD
Cobra 4WD
Quad Bike

Armored vehicles:
M3A3 Bradley
BMD-3 Bakhcha
M1A2 Abrams
T-90 MBT

Air vehicles:
AH-64 Apache
MI-28 Havoc
UH-60 Blackhawk
MI-24 Hind
UAV

Water vehicles:
Personal Watercraft
Patrol Boat

Stationary weapons:

HEAVY MG/X312
HEAVY MG/KORD
STATIONARY AT/TOW2
STATIONARY AT/KORN
ANTI-AIR GUN/ZU23

Shadowfox952 · 09-03-2010, 10:01 PM

I'd also like to know what the multipliers are for extra armor, damage, and reload time.

Logisticz · 09-03-2010, 10:19 PM

oh cool, i didnt knew that the Apache and Havoc get a homing missile

thx

1337ki113r · 09-03-2010, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Logisticz

oh cool, i didnt knew that the Apache and Havoc get a homing missile

thx

yeah, its pretty powerful... about the same as the uav missile. But is nearly useless if your team doesnt use tracer darts... which a lot of the time dont

AndrewPast · 09-03-2010, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 1337ki113r

yeah, its pretty powerful... about the same as the uav missile. But is nearly useless if your team doesnt use tracer darts... which a lot of the time dont

The heli gunner's alt-fire fires tacers.

dsi24 · 09-03-2010, 10:51 PM

I'd like to know if the packages your passengers have effect the vehicle as well, for instance unlocking alt-fire or giving you the zoom enhance.

Scrambles_SDM · 09-03-2010, 10:56 PM

They do, as far as I know. I am pretty sure I read in on the battlefield blog.

1337ki113r · 09-03-2010, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AndrewPast

The heli gunner's alt-fire fires tacers.

... could more chopper guns use the alt fire.... pleeeease, would make tank killing a llllllot easier

raubhamster · 10-03-2010, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 1337ki113r

... could more chopper guns use the alt fire.... pleeeease, would make tank killing a llllllot easier

Does the chopper gun alt fire always shoot tracer darts or does this come with the weapons package?

shaippen · 10-03-2010, 06:45 PM

I think that blackhawk alt fire is flares... heard it somewhere, somebody should check it.

InsaneRussian · 10-03-2010, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by raubhamster

Alternate weapons package
Affects these vehicles (driver's secondary fire):
BMD-3 Bakhcha - mg
M3A3 Bradley - tow missile launcher
M1A2 Abrams - mg
T-90 MBT - mg

Corrected

Ohh and the warhead package simply can't effect anything not vehicle related. That is c4 and other explosives. Although it does effect stationaries, since they're on the vehicles list and you get vehicle stars with them. At least that seems reasonable to me, warhead pack should work on stationaries, even if not, add them to the list as vehicles.

ICE-Raver · 10-03-2010, 06:55 PM

So that's why I didn't have an MG with the UAV.

Thanks for the post.

Personally I find myself using the optics package mostly.

Knaris · 10-03-2010, 06:59 PM

Just wanted to say... Nice thread!
i didnt have a clue about the chopper pilot missile! really happy i read this!

InsaneRussian · 10-03-2010, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ICE-Raver

So that's why I didn't have an MG with the UAV.

Thanks for the post.

Personally I find myself using the optics package mostly.

Yeah MG on UAV is pretty much a suicide. Really hard to kill with, considering the instability of flight path and the low amount of damage it deals. Just gives you away and you go boom soon after.

Although the zoom enables you to maintain a very long range, at which only snipers can kill you. Even if an assault class chooses to kill you, he'd be spraying and you'll kill him before you kill him or hide away in trees.

So for UAV, in my opinion, zoom is the most effective. Considering that the reload package has faster reload, but less survivability. You'll end up getting killed and wait 5minutes for respawn so the reload package is kinda of a waste comparing to zoom for UAV.

MasterDex88 · 10-03-2010, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by InsaneRussian

Corrected

Ohh and the warhead package simply can't effect anything not vehicle related. That is c4 and other explosives. Although it does effect stationaries, since they're on the vehicles list and you get vehicle stars with them.

BMD fires a TOW missile like the Bradley as far as I recall. Basically, the light tanks get the TOW and the MBTs get the MG

ICE-Raver · 10-03-2010, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by InsaneRussian

Yeah MG on UAV is pretty much a suicide. Really hard to kill with, considering the instability of flight path and the low amount of damage it deals. Just gives you away and you go boom soon after.

Although the zoom enables you to maintain a very long range, at which only snipers can kill you. Even if an assault class chooses to kill you, he'd be spraying and you'll kill him before you kill him or hide away in trees.

So for UAV, in my opinion, zoom is the most effective. Considering that the reload package has faster reload, but less survivability. You'll end up getting killed and wait 5minutes for respawn so the reload package is kinda of a waste comparing to zoom for UAV.

I find myself using zoom on the tanks in Africa Harbor as well. It's the best choice for that map IMO.

InsaneRussian · 10-03-2010, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterDex88

BMD fires a TOW missile like the Bradley as far as I recall. Basically, the light tanks get the TOW and the MBTs get the MG

Go to Port Valdez, choose the Alt Wep package, see what Bakhcha will fire.

I've tried it and i can with 100% certainty say its a MG and nothing else, not even a TOW launcher.

g-money650 · 10-03-2010, 07:17 PM

BFBC2 Information

ICE-Raver · 10-03-2010, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by g-money650

BFBC2 Information

Nice!

sovapid · 10-03-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by g-money650

BFBC2 Information

Off topic, but bullet drop is not the same for all guns according to:

Hey, A Message Board - M95 bullet drop?

Quote:

The M95 has a bullet drop different than both the bolt action and the automatics.

The T88, SVU and Vintorez use the ordinary Bullet projectile, which has no drop.

The bolt actions, M24, SV-98, and GOL (and Slug Shotguns) are all affected by the same amount of drop, using "Sniper_Bullet".

The M95 uses HMG_Bullet.

Does this mean all the rest of the player equipped guns have no bullet drop? They use an ordinary Bullet projectile?

Quote:

Yes, with the exception of sniper rifles and shotguns, all weapons are unaffected by fake gravity.

HMG_Bullet does drop, but it isn't as severe as Sniper_Bullet.

Lilzycho · 10-03-2010, 08:54 PM

they are two kinds of the bmd3 the one with the normal turret shooting those tank grenades. and the other one with the anti air on the top. this anti-air bmd is shooting those 40mm grenades which have high bullet drop. Im sure that there is a difference with the alternative weapons. i havent checked the aa bmd but i think its alternate weapon is a mg while the other one has the tow.

fausto412 · 10-03-2010, 09:22 PM

this thread needs to be stickied.

useful info. thanks man!, hope you keep it updated

Logisticz · 10-03-2010, 10:47 PM

I just checked/tested the thing with the Blackhawk and the Flares as secondary Fire with Alt Weapons Spec.

There are No Flares and nothing else when using it and flying the Blackhawk - pretty much useless - my recommendation for Blackhawk pilots would be the Armor upgrad.

BigEvilTyrant · 11-03-2010, 05:50 PM

Great thread!

Wondering if anyone's tested which is best tank vs tank:

+25 armor
+25 damage
+25 reload

2 tanks shooting head-to-head - which one would prevail, or are they all pretty much even? Seems 25+ Armor and 25+ Damage would balance eachother out - wonder if the same for 25+ reload...

overflow_x86 · 11-03-2010, 06:10 PM

its not related to the topic but does anyone know why i sometimes when sitting in the passenger seat of a quadbike i can look to the front and sometimes not. it doesnt have to do anything with class or weapon. its probably a bug or maybe a feature. dunno.

09-03-2010, 09:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
raubhamster Rookie Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 295	Vehicle packages - what do they do? As there is nothing about the different vehicle specialization in the manual I try to collect here the different specialization and how they affect each vehicle/tool in BC2! You all are welcome to help me! Update: Weapons damage/spec charts for all 3 spec slots: http://bfbc2info.blogspot.com/ Vehicle motion sensor Every vehicle has a motion sensor which reveals enemy units close to you on the map Active armor package Gives additional armor to every vehicle Improved warheads package Vehicles and tools do more damage Alternate weapons package Affects these vehicles (driver's secondary fire): M3A3 Bradley - tow missile launcher BMD-3 Bakhcha - mg M1A2 Abrams - mg T-90 MBT - mg AH-64 Apache - adds a homing missile that can lock onto tracer darts MI-28 Havoc - adds a homing missile that can lock onto tracer darts UAV - mg Smoke countermeasures package affects these vehicles (driver's secondary fire, ~ 21 seconds to reload the smokelauncher): M3A3 Bradley BMD-3 Bakhcha M1A2 Abrams T-90 MBT UAV - smoke grenades Quick reload package affects every vehicles primary fire mode High power optics drivers get a zoom (secondary fire), this affects: M3A3 Bradley BMD-3 Bakhcha M1A2 Abrams T-90 MBT UAV I will update this thread at least once a day! Post what you found out so far and correct me, if I said something wrong! Here is a list of all vehicles: Light vehicles: HMMWV 4WD Vodnik 4WD Cobra 4WD Quad Bike Armored vehicles: M3A3 Bradley BMD-3 Bakhcha M1A2 Abrams T-90 MBT Air vehicles: AH-64 Apache MI-28 Havoc UH-60 Blackhawk MI-24 Hind UAV Water vehicles: Personal Watercraft Patrol Boat Stationary weapons: HEAVY MG/X312 HEAVY MG/KORD STATIONARY AT/TOW2 STATIONARY AT/KORN ANTI-AIR GUN/ZU23 Last edited by raubhamster; 11-03-2010 at 07:05 PM.

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Shadowfox952 Rookie Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 169	I'd also like to know what the multipliers are for extra armor, damage, and reload time. __________________

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Logisticz Rookie Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Age: 25 Posts: 250	oh cool, i didnt knew that the Apache and Havoc get a homing missile thx __________________ http://www.blacksun-gaming.de .bsG - German Fun Clan/Gaming Community -

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shaippen Rookie Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 208	I think that blackhawk alt fire is flares... heard it somewhere, somebody should check it. __________________

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ICE-Raver Forum Guru Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Dixie Age: 36 Posts: 1,702	So that's why I didn't have an MG with the UAV. Thanks for the post. Personally I find myself using the optics package mostly. __________________

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dsi24 Forum Junkie Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,530	I'd like to know if the packages your passengers have effect the vehicle as well, for instance unlocking alt-fire or giving you the zoom enhance.

09-03-2010, 10:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
Scrambles_SDM Rookie Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 56	They do, as far as I know. I am pretty sure I read in on the battlefield blog.

10-03-2010, 06:59 PM	#13 (permalink)
Knaris Rookie Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 4	Just wanted to say... Nice thread! i didnt have a clue about the chopper pilot missile! really happy i read this!

10-03-2010, 07:17 PM	#18 (permalink)
g-money650 Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 811	BFBC2 Information __________________

10-03-2010, 08:54 PM	#21 (permalink)
Lilzycho Rookie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 187	they are two kinds of the bmd3 the one with the normal turret shooting those tank grenades. and the other one with the anti air on the top. this anti-air bmd is shooting those 40mm grenades which have high bullet drop. Im sure that there is a difference with the alternative weapons. i havent checked the aa bmd but i think its alternate weapon is a mg while the other one has the tow. __________________

10-03-2010, 09:22 PM	#22 (permalink)
fausto412 Forum Junkie Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 3,301	this thread needs to be stickied. useful info. thanks man!, hope you keep it updated

10-03-2010, 10:47 PM	#23 (permalink)
Logisticz Rookie Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Age: 25 Posts: 250	I just checked/tested the thing with the Blackhawk and the Flares as secondary Fire with Alt Weapons Spec. There are No Flares and nothing else when using it and flying the Blackhawk - pretty much useless - my recommendation for Blackhawk pilots would be the Armor upgrad. __________________ http://www.blacksun-gaming.de .bsG - German Fun Clan/Gaming Community -

11-03-2010, 05:50 PM	#24 (permalink)
BigEvilTyrant Forum Guru Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tampa Bay, Florida Age: 44 Posts: 1,934	Great thread! Wondering if anyone's tested which is best tank vs tank: +25 armor +25 damage +25 reload 2 tanks shooting head-to-head - which one would prevail, or are they all pretty much even? Seems 25+ Armor and 25+ Damage would balance eachother out - wonder if the same for 25+ reload... __________________

11-03-2010, 06:10 PM	#25 (permalink)
overflow_x86 Rookie Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 41	its not related to the topic but does anyone know why i sometimes when sitting in the passenger seat of a quadbike i can look to the front and sometimes not. it doesnt have to do anything with class or weapon. its probably a bug or maybe a feature. dunno.