PC Beta Suggestions and Feedback

[Tephra]

A List of issues/suggestions compilated:

Bugs:

-Gun animations and sounds don't match actual bullets being fired from the guns! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qakx8rkHFr0

-Numerous CTD's One in which groups of people CTD together.

-Many users graphics cards aren't even being utilized properly, http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/3531/graka.jpg
^This is both occuring on Nvidia and ATI GPUs.

-Can be Revived after committing suicide through menu

-Sprint stops functioning at times, restarting game necessary

-Friends list doesn't function or is reset

-Lag whenever someone joins the server

-TOW rockets and Regular Rockets behave erratic and jet off in random directions at 45-90 degree angles for no reason.

-Rubber banding lag even on very low latency connections

-Avatar feels unresponsive/player controls get stuck(no joystick involved)

-Stats are often not working

-Multiple soldiers stats sometimes merge into one

-Updating stats forever

-Most mice/joysticks aren't fully supported. Joystick throttles seem to be very common

-"Connection to Gameserver has been lost" even in the DMZ after new update

-Kicked immediately after joining a server

-Apache pilot can be killed out of chopper by 40mm grendade

-"Dust" hit registration effect is occuring constantly*shot registers clientside only*

-C4 doesn't stick properly, or appears to stick but is actually on the ground next to player

-Sound is more powerful on the left side of speakers/headset for some

-Rocket reload glitch when switching weapons after firing

-Game often launches in window mode instead of full screen

-White screen lockups, blue screens, white screen flickers

-Play Now is causing network error

-Steam overlay isn't functional while in game

-Duplicate GUID errors for some who purchased the game

-Water reflection issues on select ATI cards

-Scroll wheel weapon selection doesn't work properly(ex. can't keep scrolling down to get to the top again) / Mouse wheel weapon selection just buggy in general

-Negative mouse acceleration/Mouse unresponsive


-Clicking/Aiming on the edges of the screen can cause CTD
(could be related to new feature in windows called Peek at desktop)

-Can't exit the game without joining the next round

-Players are experiencing false revival messages

-Shift + W + Pressing TAB for scoreboard causes minimize

-Exiting a mounted weapon will often lock player in knife animation for a short time

-'Q' squad command does not function at time

-Kill delay/registration issues

-Kit selections aren't saving from round to round or server to server

-UAV and Helicopter Controls have opposing inverted controls.

-Points don't add up while dead

-Can use specs and scopes and gadgets from different classes through class switching exploit

-When switching to grenade launcher, some weapons with red dot sight suddenly appear to not have red dot.

Suggestions:

-First person Record functionality

-Iron sight hold support (hold button to aim)

-Crouch toggle -Health Bar Added Please

-Kills and Deaths and much more on the scoreboard!

-Rate of Fire toggle

-Q Command should bring up a commo rose!

-Lack of voice indicator when self using in game voip

-Pistol Hipfire accuracy should be reviewed

-Separate sensitivity settings for each control section

-Delete and enter bind support(enter menu can't be unbound)

-Slower rank up speeds

-Server Settings displayed before joining(ex. FF ON/OFF)

-Squad invite feature would be appreciated

-Able to switch squads while dead is an issue

-ALT TAB support (Only works in select screens)

-Ability to skip intro videos

-Auto login feature would be appreciated

-40mm grenade needs to have an arming range

-Direct X level setting in the gui for less technical players

-The Widescreen FOV is wayyyy too small, please make it customizable or much wider.

-Voip Test (see how you sound before going in game)

-Server browser needs to have sorting functionality(sort by ping, etc)

-The hud minimap needs a compass

-Minimap transparency setting

-Default on foot is set to joystick and mouse causing some issues

-Death Chat

-Chat History

-Remove auto-aim from the knife animation or make it held weapon!

-Chopper take off is too fast/ feels like a tin can.

-Damage in normal is too low, except for pistols and sniper rifles

-FPS!!! Please add FPS viewing

-Developer Console please

-Personal weapon/vehicle sounds seem quieter than rest

-Strafe diagonal Run

-Darker font in the news ticker

-Prone is being requested by thousands

-Cooldown bar for mounted weapons

-Ability to stop refreshing server list/don't auto refresh

-Bring back different colored friends feature to BC2

-Have the option of binding a separate key instead of E for arming&disarming/pickup kit, etc.

Allow the mouse wheel up and mouse wheel down to be two bind different actions.

-Allow us to heal or give ammo to teammates by holding the crate in our hands.(Prevents runaway teammates)

-Remove player collision from friendlies, only enemies should be able to block your path, it's causing griefing

-Make the chat and who killed who kill messages stay longer

-Allow us to bind alternative keys for the same actions(ex. set x and ctrl for crouch.)

[proMzlin0]

This is wat you get with beta's but am sure there will be patches out :P

[Tephra]

Already found like 10 references to the PS3 in the games ENCRYPTED files....

DICE why must you port.

Thanks for the encryption btw, you guys really support the mod community.

[Oizu]

Just had a quick go, my early thoughts:

-Key entry at first log-in - allow pasting into the window,
-Server browser - allow sorting by all the columns, latency meters dont work very well, allow entry into games by double clicking, allow filtering by latency. Also need filtering by mode and map, allow searching, games feels fair amateurish in the server browser.
-Server options - (might be in) allow us to filter classes, weapons e.t.c.
-FOV - Looks AWEFUL - DESPERATELY NEEDS CHANGING. 90MIN
-Controls - Not a fan of melle on the middle mouse, couldnt you put it on Q?, Surely G is the obvious button to throw a grenade? I think your primary wep needs to be on 1 aswell, seen a fair few people complaining about this although im used to it.
-Spawn Screen - Allow typing and show the chat window
-Chat Window - Make player chat messages hang around for longer, blink and you miss em.

Probably temporary - cant get into any games right now and stats not recording for most.

Thats all for now, will edit this post later with some more.

[DeadeyeDK]

The stat recording thing happened for like a day on the PS3 beta as well (the first day), it'll probably be fixed by tomorrow or later today if it isn't intentional.

[Tephra]

Oizu you can change your knife button bindings. As well as grendade, etc.

[groowagon]

-where's the command rose? (button Q)
-server filters not staying
-UAV bug. i automatically exited it after being in it about 5mins, and had black square in my HUD after that.

reporting more later. good game. heavy as hell though... :P

[Xlinkcee]

I found a long delay entering and exiting vehicles.

[dstyle5]

* Please add an option to toggle crouch, having to hold down to crouch is not good IMO.
* So there is a server browser, how come no ping? The "LAT" column is just a "-", whatever LAT is supposed to be.

[groowagon]

Originally Posted by dstyle5

* Please add an option to toggle crouch, having to hold down to crouch is not good IMO.
* So there is a server browser, how come no ping? The "LAT" column is just a "-", whatever LAT is supposed to be.

it means latency (= ping)

[Oizu]

Originally Posted by Tephra

Oizu you can change your knife button bindings. As well as grendade, etc.

Yes but as defaults, current ones just make no sense

[Cirap]

FOV increase

PING bar/numbers

Can't set mouse thumb buttons to any actions (want Melee there instead of Middle Mouse)

[kcuk]

is this where we need to inform dice or is their another page ?

fov is only problem for me but its anoying the pants out of me

and like the first post helicopter needs adjusting.

[Xlinkcee]

Here is my Beta feedback I will update this post with anything new I find.

The bad.

There are problems with mapping some keys. Enter and the delete keys can't be mapped. Enter is used to bring up the menu and delete key cancels the input.

You can't sprint and strafe at the same time.

FOV too zoomed in.

There is a delay entering and exiting vehicles.

The lag is fine one minute but very bad the next.

The mouse icon is small and blends into the background in menus.

Hold keys or click keys needs to be in the options menu for aim and crouch.

The mini map can't be zoomed in and out.

Keep getting server time out's

You have to login each time there should be a option to auto login when the game starts.

The good.

My PC is old AMD 5200+ but runs well on medium to high.

The sounds are the best by far the shouts from your team or enemies echo's from a far.

The guns are meaty and give a good kick.

The overall look of the game is as good as I was expecting.

Update: 29/01/09

Added new feedback in post 636.

[Yvese89]

Increase the FOV please!! How do your testers not even realize the importance of FOV on the PC? Do you hire monkeys?

That is my #1 issue atm. Others:

- Sort browser
- Better optimization

All I got atm. FOV is the #1 issue.

[Tephra]

Hey guys trying to update as I go here with some of your issues, and my new issues I'm experiencing.

[jblackrupert]

Walking is terrible. I feel like a munchkin doing the "We welcome you to munchkinland" dance from Wizard of oz. it's like Dragon rising.

[notodd1991]

Originally Posted by Tephra

After playing it I'd like to bring up some issues

-Crouch toggle

-Kills and Deaths on the scoreboard!

-Lag whenever someone joins the server

-Avatar feels unresponsive/player controls get stuck

-ALT TAB support

-Ability to switch seats in a vehicle...

-Stats are often not working

-The Widescreen FOV is wayyyy too small, please make it customizable or much wider.

-Server browser needs to have sorting functionality(sort by ping, etc)

-Iron sight Toggle and Iron sight hold support

-The hud minimap has no compass

-Mouse sensitivity max is wayyy to low

-Default on foot is set to joystick and mouse causing some confusion

-Remove auto-aim from the knife animation

-Increase the weight of the chopper, it flys like a tin can, and takeoff is much too fast

-Recoil and damage values are actually very good

-Add More information to score board, Ping is a necessity on the PC!!!

-FPS!!! Please add FPS viewing

-Developer Console would be appreciated

-first person Record functionality

- will add more in future

Agree 100%

[Tephra]

Thanks for trying to keep this type of thread floating, the flood of 1 post wonders screaming that they CTD'ed are bogging down decent constructive threads.

[Tephra]

http://twitter.com/Just_do_it_lalala/status/8338659340 added.

[EdgyGamer]

Agree 100%

My main concerns:
FOV
Mouse Sensitivity
Crouch and Aim down the sight Toggle

I'm curious... is this the first Battlefield without prone? :S

[Salamander]

OK, here is my feedback... so far its "bad"...

- Had 2 CTD's in the space of about 5 minutes (will post spec below)

- Every server has awful lag

- Your own weapon sounds seem really low volume wise

- Can't work out what the TAB key is showing, is it ping or score? Anyway I had "50" of "something"

- FOV seems a bit low, could do with a bump up slightly.

- Oh when I had a moment of non-lag I shot a box of explosives and a shed blew up, that was kinda cool.

Will add more later.

Asus P6T Deluxe
i7 920 D0 Stepping
6GB DDR3 Triple Channel
Sapphire 5870
Win 7 x64

[Tephra]

I got 4500 score in one round the scoreboard only shows score at the moment.

ADDING salamanders.

[4l3xXx]

- FOV is really too low, I got a headache again

- am I right that all the changes from the PS3 Beta DID NOT make it into the PC beta?
f.e. red triangles are still bright red

- heli feels too 'light', like a remote controlled mini helo, take-off time is too fast too.

- I can't use all of my Logitech G9's 2 thumbbuttons, only 1 is recognized.

- sound sucks, honestly, after the PS3 beta I am dissapointed.

- if possible I'd like to know the changes that have been made to the serverbrowser after this build.

- soldier movement feels abit slow or sloppy, dunno how to define it, soldier runs too slow, but I think everyyone needs to get used to this new game too. Well sprint could be a BIT faster, just a bit.

- when switching to RPG and back to rifle, sometimes there is no animation

Hitreg is real good, weapons recoil is great and they feel great too.
Game is awesome so far and it's really a ton of fun for us.
Good work so far DICE!

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Asus Maximus Formula
Q9450 @ 3.4ghz - 8gb RAM - 2xHD4870
Settings: 1920x1080, all HIGH, Shadows medium, HBOA OFF, 4x AntiAliasing , 8x Anisotropic Filter results in 70-90 FPS

[vipre01]

A couple issues I've experienced thus far is in trying to strafe while running, attempting to fix my controls I'm unable to delete currently binded keys, and the map seems to be a little... bright. I'm also not a big fan of having to hold down my shift or CTRL key in order to stay sprinting or croutched. Maybe being able to increase mouse sensitivity even more than the standard MAX/accelerator.

Also, "Updating Stats", that needs to be WAY faster and being able to rename the squads.

Seem to be having control issues while attempting to move through water onto land. And apparently I drowned while trying to get on shore...

The "Add Friend" feature, while a neat addition, seems to be broken. You can send a request, and the end user can accept the request, but the individual is NOT added to your friends list.

Also, when you unlock weapons while in game, you are unable to access those weapons until after you leave the server and have your stats updated (by logging back in).

This is a bug for the Engineer class:
This is the scenario:

1 Attacker Engineer and 1 Defender Engineer.

While the Defending Engineer is using the drill to repair a vehicle the Attacking Engineer uses their respective drill to kill the one repairing. When this happens the sound that's played when the drill is active continues to play in the background until the Defending Engineer respawns. At this point the drill sound goes away.

Tried this multiple times to confirm it as a bug.

Another bug I, myself, and a buddy witnessed was in the Squad creation menu. My rank insignia started to go through all 50 levels at an alarming rate. Each rank after another was displayed. Not sure how else to describe this, but it would loop continuously and display very briefly each rank going all the way up to 50 and then starting over.

Also, the problem isn't about strafing right or left in a sprint, the problem is running in diagonals. You can run forward, but you can't use the left or right keys to run diagnonally in a sprint.

When it comes to respawns, you should only be allowed to respawn on your squad LEADER as opposed to any individual in your squad.

The kill cam is a waste of time. I don't care who killed me and I don't care where they killed me from. Don't try to imitate MW2, go back to BF2 basics.

Also, prone needs to be added (I'm pretty sure 95% of the people playing this game keep saying the same thing), this is NOT HALO, it's lalalalala a Battlefield game. Holy lalalala. Have some respect for yourselves.

FOV! FOV! FOV! Are you freaking kidding me? I mean, really, who the heck wants to a screen full of nothing BUT your gun?

Glare, holy cow. This is the whitest game level I think I have seen yet in ANY game.