PC Beta Suggestions and Feedback

[Zerokpr0]

My feedback and bug report of the beta:



--- BUGS ---

· Sometimes when u launch a grenade to an Apache helicopter that is getting fly,
the driver dies and the heli doesn´t get damaged.

· When a ground vehicle (Normally a tank or an Antiair Apc) is going to crunch you, you
pass through the vehicle, like if it doesn´t exist. It happens sometimes.

· When you die, and respawn on a team mate, sometimes (rare) it appears on the window
with big letters: "YOU HAVE BEEN REVIVED BY ?", like when you get revived, but with
a "?" instead of the character that saved you. You get that message until you die,
really annoying...

· (VERY IMPORTANT) Bad optimization. It needs to get better in graphics and optimization,
because theyare REALLY BAD. With my AMD Phenom II X4 945 I get bad FPS in Low graphics,
having areally poor graphical quality.

· Serious crash bugs: A lot of players of my clan are having an error where their game
minimizates, and then it crashes. Other people get crashes when the twitter announce
appears after a game.

· Sometimes, the stats don´t work O.o.

- Bullets never hit, they are buggeds or something when shooting at full auto.

- Damage is also bugged. 3 Headshoots kill, sometimes u hit 10 headshoots shoot at shoot at long distances and they dont die.



--- THINGS THAT NEED TO CHANGE FOR BETTER GAMEPLAY ---

· Prone: Is needed. Not as I thought in a beginning, but it´s really needed for more
movement capacity and to cover your body on a lot of possitions, even fighting versus
infantry. It´s NECCESARY...

· Quicker crouch: Crouch needs to be a bit quicker, not a lot tho. A 20% quicker would be
enough in my opinion.

· We also should be able to activate/deactivate crouch and prone, so we don´t need to hold CTRL or Z pressed.

· HUD change: Would be nice to add a Health bar it would really help to infantry.

· More damage or less life: It´s exagerated how many shoots you need to kill one soldier.
3 Headshoots to kill is an exagerated number of bullets to kill a soldier, it would be
really better if the soldiers have the 60% of the life, or just make the weapons more
deadly.

· In the map, probably more Quads or Cars are neededs. I Don´t mean more firepower, I mean
just more velocity for reaching the defender's possition.

· Better knife animation, and make it quicker.

· (Important) The Server Browser needs to be better, and let us organize the servers by
ping, number, etc.

· The controls need to have the option to invert the mouse for "Pilot" and "Vehicle"
instead for being the same for all. I Want to have the mouse inverted in the helicopter,
but I prefer to have it normal in infantry, and I cant...

· Kills, Deaths and Supply points MUST be agreed into the score board.

· Kill list (the one that oftenly appears when someone kills at the upside left part of the screen in the FPS games) must be larger and bigger. We can´t know if our mate died, or how many people we killed!


--- OTHER SUGGESTIONS AND OBSERVATIONS ---

· I don´t know if it has, but it NEEDS the Battlerecorder. Without it we can´t do competition.



### EDIT: Thanks to Aurora for sticking my post. I'll continue editting this one as I find more bugs.

My pc info:

- Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 945
- Graphic card: ATI 5850
- RAM Memory: 4 GB ddr3
- OS: Windows 7 64 bits.


Feedback by Zerok, competitive battlefield player since BF2.

[Tephra]

Originally Posted by vipre01

A couple issues I've experienced thus far is in trying to strafe while running, attempting to fix my controls I'm unable to delete currently binded keys, and the map seems to be a little... bright. I'm also not a big fan of having to hold down my shift or CTRL key in order to stay sprinting or croutched. Maybe being able to increase mouse sensitivity even more than the standard MAX/accelerator.

Also, "Updating Stats", that needs to be WAY faster and being able to rename the squads.

Seem to be having control issues while attempting to move through water onto land. And apparently I drowned while trying to get on shore...

The "Add Friend" feature, while a neat addition, seems to be broken. You can send a request, and the end user can accept the request, but the individual is NOT added to your friends list.

Also, when you unlock weapons while in game, you are unable to access those weapons until after you leave the server and have your stats updated (by logging back in).

Select the binding you want to delete, and press DELETE

[EdgyGamer]

Originally Posted by vipre01

A couple issues I've experienced thus far is in trying to strafe while running

I further that... seems strange not being able to strafe while sprinting but that might be a preference. Is it just me who's bugged about the inability to prone? I just cant justify playing a sniper without the ability to prone :S

[Tephra]

Snipers are actually REALLY powerful, especially on this map setting, and in the rush mode. Prone would just be nuts.

[devast8]

The ability to strafe while running is a necessity.

[Tephra]

Adding strafe run.

[gerv]

Dissapointed in the apache, supercobra from bf2 felt just fine, this on the other hand feels like a blackhawk with a one armed pilot trying to be a gunship. Even firing off missiles its almost like they auto-lock on or something. Needs badly looked at.

[SWP_Lohse_DK]

I also miss being able to strafe while sprinting, but also the prone action.

[ganglartoronto]

Just a few things I've noticed in one match.

- Field of view is very small, change it to match widescreen configs

- Add ability to toggle crouch/sprint(lets face it, on huge maps holding that can be a pain)

Thats All I can think of right now.

I am also suprised that even though this beta wont be optimized as much as the retail version, that it runs on my 2.61 amd x2 and 9800gt 512mb. Thanks dice

[Tephra]

Server browser crashing on update on Windows 7 64 bit added.

[Strike-Back]

Fix kicking on server join! I don't run hax, and never will... so why kick me without giving me a chance to play first (alright i had 40 seconds of play)?

-Mouse sensitivity is seconded, i don't want to pick up my mouse place it on the othe rside, and slide it & repeat opnly to look 10 degrees around me!

- Decrease time for updating stats, I dont want to update stats as main play time... Stats are a bonus, if you remove it i wont shed a tear (but at least try to fix it).

- I found the spawn screen a bit confusing, but maybe it's just me being "if it aint broke don't fix it". (can we even select our own squads?? i didnt see in my 40 secs of play time)

most important for now: Fix the kicking... you want me to glitch the * out of the game, get under maps and such... give me a chance first (i hope we are allowed to try to glitch the game... why would they do a beta if you get banned).

[meehe]

Originally Posted by Tephra

Server browser crashing on update on Windows 7 64 bit added.

same issue 32bit.

[Tephra]

Okay, will definitely edit that part then. You are windows 7 yes>

[archzilla]

Strafing while running is just such an obvious thing to include that it pains me to even bring it up. People can aim sniper rifles with a mouse 10x better than with thumbsticks, you can't get away with leaving out a feature like this on pc. Makes crossing any open area without a vehicle suicide. Not to mention the general degradation in gameplay from having virtually no movement skill.

Hello every firefight consisting of two guys standing still iron sighting each other.

[Tephra]

Originally Posted by Strike-Back

Fix kicking on server join! I don't run hax, and never will... so why kick me without giving me a chance to play first (alright i had 40 seconds of play)?

-Mouse sensitivity is seconded, i don't want to pick up my mouse place it on the othe rside, and slide it & repeat opnly to look 10 degrees around me!

- Decrease time for updating stats, I dont want to update stats as main play time... Stats are a bonus, if you remove it i wont shed a tear (but at least try to fix it).

- I found the spawn screen a bit confusing, but maybe it's just me being "if it aint broke don't fix it". (can we even select our own squads?? i didnt see in my 40 secs of play time)

most important for now: Fix the kicking... you want me to glitch the * out of the game, get under maps and such... give me a chance first (i hope we are allowed to try to glitch the game... why would they do a beta if you get banned).

Before spawning, there is a blacked out area that says SQUAD MANAGEMENT, click it to bring up the squad creation menu

[Chowley]

The simpleton knife and grenade us is what lalalalaes me off most! I watched an interview where the producer of the game stated this has its own team working on the pc game and its not a simple port.

So why do we have lalalala friendly grenades and knife use, it takes all the risk out of knifing.

Please give us back switchable knives and nades please, i like the versatility of the nade throws in BF2 its essential, now people can knife any time without consequence, if you miss ooh you can shoot straight away again.

If this is the indication of the path BF3 will take this franchise has fallen a long way.

[meehe]

Originally Posted by Tephra

Okay, will definitely edit that part then. You are windows 7 yes>

yes other users also:

Originally Posted by dommafia99

when i go to server browser the game crashes.

My system:
windows 7 32bit
intel core 2 duo @ 3.4ghz
4 gig of ram
ati xfx 4870 1gb memory

[Tephra]

Fixed the list to reflect others with 32 windows 7 experiencing the crash.

[LocoTaco]

I line in with

- staying prone/crouched
- Soldier moves a little sloppy, especially when turning with the
mouse (yup, I tried sensitivity first) in vehicles, you can react
much quicker at same sensitivity
- Strafe running
- own weapon too silent compared to other sound sources around

except that and the lag which youre already working on, it looks fine so far.
Ah, I cannot connect anymore to the game server and it tells me to check network connection, even so I played a full hour until I got kicked, but thats belonging in another thread

Edited: Typos..

[neryan]

*Currently can't sort the server list by anything, would've been nice to sort through name and/or latency/ping.
*The current built-in friendsystem doesn't seem to work.
*An effect of previous point is that, if you're playing with friends you can't join a server together instead you must scroll through a proper server, make sure all find it then join.
*There is no menu for advanced video options? All I see is, resolution and quality level as well as contrast and brightness.
*Taking a very long time to log-in.
*Currently crashing when I try to update the server list and can't seem to be able to do anything about it.
*Can't cancel "Waiting for data.." as you enter the server browser, so you're "forced" to wait for it to complete.
*What is the purpose of the "Kill-cam"? Currently you observe your enemy in third person like you are standing "infront" of him/her and I'm not sure if it shows the actual shots that killed you or where the person is going after having killed you. You can't skip this either it seems, or atleast not an obvious way of doing so.
*Once you've died, it's a bit too cumbersome to spawn again. Would wish you could set a spot and respawn there as soon as you're able without having to click respawn/revive (can't recall exact words now).


I guess I've just listed things that have already been said and/or very basic things, but those are the things I can think of right now with about 30min gameplay.

(I'm using Windows XP)

[KingWahWah]

Originally Posted by Cirap

Can't set mouse thumb buttons to any actions (want Melee there instead of Middle Mouse)

Same here, logitech mX518. If you use wheel button you can accidently choose different item.

[Pknexus]

The issues I am currently expirencing are as follows:

• Communication with stats server is slow and nonresponsive at times.
  
• Experiencing crashes when going to server browser GUI.
  
• Massive rubber banding on low populated server (running forward then being ported back to a previous position).
  
• Lack of prone ability is very disappointing. I heard the community manager say some time ago it would be one of the features in the PC edition of BC2, and it seems it is not. Personally if it is not included I will be returning to BF2.
  
• There seems to be an issue with hit detection, I believe I am making accurate shots on target however rounds seem to not be detected. It sort of feels like lag (blank shot - no server registration of hits). Not sure how else to describe this.
  
• Players positions updating to client seem jumpy (maybe netcode needs some serious work, and hit detection).

In regards to graphics and feel of the engine, I am running all settings on max on my rig and getting perfect FPS and smooth graphics. Love the immersion of the sound and particle effects and physics. So far the biggest issue I am having is with hit detection.

I will keep posting my expirence as I play.


Rig:
OS: Windows 7 (64bit)
GFX: 2x GTX 295
HD: WD Raptor HD (10,000RPM) Raid 0 Config
Memory: 12 Gigs DDR3 1800mhz
MB: Asus Rampage II Extreme
CPU: i7 920 (Over Clocked)



Update #2 (Continued Feedback)

• Friends do not appear in the friends list.
• Unable to filter by exact or partial names in server browser.
• Global leader board does not have any stats yet.

Suggestions:

• Add a regional based leader board, based on your ip.
• Allow for creation of clans, and ability for people to request and be invited to clan group via friends list. Friends list would auto add all members apart of the clan group. Clan based leader boards, clan based server filter tab to view all servers with members in them.
• For the love of god please put prone back in!

[Rasstapp]

The font should really be black in the News Ticker.

[TheBottolf]

1:First unlock sniper is BAD!

M24 kills in two shots to the body.
The first unlock does not kill in 4 kills, no need to have a unlock that is not better than the stock weapon.

2:Why does it look like I`m on drugs when I look trough the scope of the M24? Please remove it

3:Why does the sight strafe , it should be still like in Bf2

4:Getting CTD All the time when trying to join a servere.

5: C4 packages does not stick to vehicles, they stay in the air where you put them and does not follow the vehicle if it moves.

6:Friends List is Fubar

7: Like someone mentioned before there should be a possibility to change if you want to hold the crouch button down or go crouch and then press crouch or jump to get back up.

EDIT:

8: Knifing is lame, it takes 5 seconds to knife someone that is to slow.

9: It takes to long to switch between weapons, it should be much quicker.

10: When logging in to the account the Updating Stats stands there for 60 seconds , that is to damn long.

[ArchaicDementia]

well the little bit I got to play this morning before the "you have been kicked" and "check your network" stuff happened (Im assuming server overloading caused death)

the fov change option would be nice

I changed my sprint to Q, overriding como rose (or whatever) and there is no option to map it to another key in the controls tab.... I thought the command key would work but all it's good for is assigning which point to attack, I cannot mark players at all.
yes I could reset keys, but I don't want it on Q.

there seems to be a lot of "lag" between movements.

what I mean by that is, say you hit crouch, you need to get into crouch position faster than an old man bracing his back to pick up a quarter.

knifing should be immediate then the cooldown after... so if you want to cause a penalty to knife misses, make it after the hit please, nothing more infuriating than running up and knifing someone but the hit takes place a second or two after it should have.

sprint toggle please, the xbox has it, we don't
same deal for crouch toggle and zoom toggle (these are all no brainers)

is it me, or do grenade explosions seem so much weaker than bc1, they could have a little more bang to em.

big issue for me, I run my pc sound through my reciever, I don't get full surround sound, but I use it for my speakers nonetheless.
in other games it's fine the sound comes out the front left and right speakers.

in BC2 a majority of the sound is weighted to the left speaker..... this is SUPREMELY annoying, and does not occur in ANY OTHER GAME including BF2 and MW2

I have changed my sound options to every other option in the audio settings, made sure my cables are correct, tried other games to recheck.... it's just with BC2 that it does this.

the sound acting like that is a huge issue with me, more so than the others.