@ Dice from a bf2 vet

bee80 · 27-09-2011, 10:18 PM

Ok , ive been playing bf2 for 4 years 8 months to this day and amassed 2061 gaming hours. I love the game.I was worried for BF3.

Played the bf3 beta today....

Is it BF2's true successor ? No.
Can it be ? Yes,Easily.

Things you have nailed:
graphics
sound
immersion!!
unlocks
We as a clan can see that it tends toward teamwork even in horrible rush mode.

Things that i believe are needed to to win over hardcore bf vets to the game:
great conquest maps (u might already have them)
bf2 style commorose with waypoints etc (confirmed i think)
squad selection and options
Proper squad leaders (spawn point , orders etc)
no herpspawning in conquest
VOIP (confirmed?)
bf2 style heli/jet physics!!
server options for killcam/health re-gen/3d spotting

You've done a great job so far dice, i really like the game even playing lalalalaty rush.

You have done enough already to attract the casual crowd they will & do love it.

The game tends toward teamwork, Dice give us the tools to "play it our way" and you have my attention once again for the next 5 years!

Raven1001 · 27-09-2011, 10:20 PM

I agree, unfortunately it looks like BF3 is a dumbed down BC2, how is that even possible.

Bladezero101 · 27-09-2011, 10:21 PM

Didn't get my key yet.. What did they change about the Heli physics?
Please don't tell me they made it arcade style like in vietnam >>

bee80 · 27-09-2011, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladezero101

Didn't get my key yet.. What did they change about the Heli physics?
Please don't tell me they made it arcade style like in vietnam >>

Dont know yet but on the vids they look a lil too easy to fly

NavadeHi · 27-09-2011, 10:23 PM

There are no heli's in the Open Beta.

But people are worried that they might auto correct your movements like in BC2

iQuelol · 27-09-2011, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bee80

Dont know yet but on the vids they look a lil too easy to fly

I really don't see how you can tell that from a video.

As for OP, agreed! The game has tons of potential, but the map and game mode does a poor job showing it.

Fr3quency · 27-09-2011, 10:24 PM

the options you mentioned add too much complexity for the average cod joe so I wont expect them to add it, it will scare the masses off.

Although I agree with you Im afraid many good things (from the BF2 perspective) wont happen

Killitngrillit · 27-09-2011, 10:24 PM

agreed, good post OP, but i think its too late, they cater to cod kiddies now.

Selryam · 27-09-2011, 10:25 PM

The game kind of feels like a mix of Battlefield: Bad Company, and Medal of Honor. Maybe it is a prequel to an actual Battlefield 2 successor, regardless with the numbering.

bee80 · 27-09-2011, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohshutup

I really don't see how you can tell that from a video.

As for OP, agreed! The game has tons of potential, but the map and game mode does a poor job showing it.

+1 map is horrible but maybe not for the ppl who like rush so fair enough, but i hope conquest is awsome for us that love it.

As for the video, they can fly them in 3d person view ! You try that in a bf2 heli, u got no chance

SyntaxError255 · 27-09-2011, 10:26 PM

Most of that stuff we are getting in BF3. The only things that need to be seen is flight physics for air vehicles.

United_Stealth · 27-09-2011, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bee80

Ok , ive been playing bf2 for 4 years 8 months to this day and amassed 2061 gaming hours. I love the game.I was worried for BF3.

Played the bf3 beta today....

Is it BF2's true successor ? No.
Can it be ? Yes,Easily.

Things you have nailed:
graphics
sound
immersion!!
unlocks
We as a clan can see that it tends toward teamwork even in horrible rush mode.

Things that i believe are needed to to win over hardcore bf vets to the game:
great conquest maps (u might already have them)
bf2 style commorose with waypoints etc (confirmed i think)
squad selection and options
Proper squad leaders (spawn point , orders etc)
no herpspawning in conquest
VOIP (confirmed?)
bf2 style heli/jet physics!!
server options for killcam/health re-gen/3d spotting

You've done a great job so far dice, i really like the game even playing lalalalaty rush.

You have done enough already to attract the casual crowd they will & do love it.

The game tends toward teamwork, Dice give us the tools to "play it our way" and you have my attention once again for the next 5 years!

Thank you for writing down my thoughts

This is exactly what I was thinking about the beta, so please dice fix this

bee80 · 27-09-2011, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killitngrillit

agreed, good post OP, but i think its too late, they cater to cod kiddies now.

Ive changed my view since playing the beta, i have gone from pessamist to optimist. Who's to say most of the things im asking for arnt already in?

Silentwindofdoom · 27-09-2011, 10:28 PM

Battlefield 2 is not Battlefield. Maybe we should hope BF4 no longer allows aiming down sights and goes back to its true roots, open crosshairs CS style. That's true battlefield, not this noobed up accurate COD style gun play. No more noob revives either, if you're dead you're dead, play as a team more, etc.

Zabytrid · 27-09-2011, 10:30 PM

Personally, I love the beta, but you know what, Dice need to add Caspian Border Conquest on all 3 platforms urgently, or they are going to lose a LOT of money!

bee80 · 27-09-2011, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silentwindofdoom

Battlefield 2 is not Battlefield.

qué?
U high?

Micke84Soul · 27-09-2011, 10:42 PM

Sounds good.

Koulikov762 · 27-09-2011, 10:47 PM

Could be good without killcam.

Julenissen666 · 27-09-2011, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohshutup

I really don't see how you can tell that from a video.

As for OP, agreed! The game has tons of potential, but the map and game mode does a poor job showing it.

the game mode (rush) is ok. Its the map that is the problem. Too linear and infantry focused.

SturmovikDrakon · 27-09-2011, 11:03 PM

Agreed.
Bring back the interactive map for squad-leaders.
The ability to set way points and orders.
Change the scoreboard to actually show team-orientated actions, assists, ect. This is exactly what I feel is missing.

Please bring back these features for those that actually used them, instead of just getting rid of them all together

defenderscotland · 27-09-2011, 11:04 PM

I thought the whole idea of Alpha and beta was to test the game and see what the customers wanted in the game but apparently not,we test alpha told them we thought it was to much like bc2 rather than bf2. Result now its even more like bc3.

BF2 is the best virtual war game ever without a doubt in every aspect, I was hoping bf3 would be as it suggests but this is not bf3 its bc3 and that sucks imho its like bringing out Fifa 2011 without a ball for the players to play, honestly what a huge disappointment dice had i known this was BC3 I would never had ordered it....

NateN34 · 27-09-2011, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silentwindofdoom

Battlefield 2 is not Battlefield. Maybe we should hope BF4 no longer allows aiming down sights and goes back to its true roots, open crosshairs CS style. That's true battlefield, not this noobed up accurate COD style gun play. No more noob revives either, if you're dead you're dead, play as a team more, etc.

This.

Real battlefield is 1942.

HawreKaka · 27-09-2011, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bee80

Ok , ive been playing bf2 for 4 years 8 months to this day and amassed 2061 gaming hours. I love the game.I was worried for BF3.

Played the bf3 beta today....

Is it BF2's true successor ? No.
Can it be ? Yes,Easily.

Things you have nailed:
graphics
sound
immersion!!
unlocks
We as a clan can see that it tends toward teamwork even in horrible rush mode.

Things that i believe are needed to to win over hardcore bf vets to the game:
great conquest maps (u might already have them) YES
bf2 style commorose with waypoints etc (confirmed i think) YES
squad selection and options YES
Proper squad leaders (spawn point , orders etc) YES (not in beta)
no herpspawning in conquest
VOIP (confirmed?) YES
bf2 style heli/jet physics!! BF2142
server options for killcam/health re-gen/3d spotting YES

You've done a great job so far dice, i really like the game even playing lalalalaty rush.

You have done enough already to attract the casual crowd they will & do love it.

The game tends toward teamwork, Dice give us the tools to "play it our way" and you have my attention once again for the next 5 years!

bla bla bla

TheRAIDER1984 · 27-09-2011, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven1001

I agree, unfortunately it looks like BF3 is a dumbed down BC2, how is that even possible.

nicely put!

Slz21 · 27-09-2011, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silentwindofdoom

Battlefield 2 is not Battlefield. Maybe we should hope BF4 no longer allows aiming down sights and goes back to its true roots, open crosshairs CS style. That's true battlefield, not this noobed up accurate COD style gun play. No more noob revives either, if you're dead you're dead, play as a team more, etc.

Uhh no..

27-09-2011, 10:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
bee80 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 376	@ Dice from a bf2 vet Ok , ive been playing bf2 for 4 years 8 months to this day and amassed 2061 gaming hours. I love the game.I was worried for BF3. Played the bf3 beta today.... Is it BF2's true successor ? No. Can it be ? Yes,Easily. Things you have nailed: graphics sound immersion!! unlocks We as a clan can see that it tends toward teamwork even in horrible rush mode. Things that i believe are needed to to win over hardcore bf vets to the game: great conquest maps (u might already have them) bf2 style commorose with waypoints etc (confirmed i think) squad selection and options Proper squad leaders (spawn point , orders etc) no herpspawning in conquest VOIP (confirmed?) bf2 style heli/jet physics!! server options for killcam/health re-gen/3d spotting You've done a great job so far dice, i really like the game even playing lalalalaty rush. You have done enough already to attract the casual crowd they will & do love it. The game tends toward teamwork, Dice give us the tools to "play it our way" and you have my attention once again for the next 5 years! Scoochness, SyntaxError255, United_Stealth and 38 others like this. Last edited by bee80; 29-09-2011 at 07:37 AM.

27-09-2011, 10:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
Raven1001 Forum Guru Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,278	I agree, unfortunately it looks like BF3 is a dumbed down BC2, how is that even possible. C4Chaos42, Jugoslavija, TheRAIDER1984 and 7 others like this.

27-09-2011, 10:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
NavadeHi Rookie Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 448	There are no heli's in the Open Beta. But people are worried that they might auto correct your movements like in BC2 __________________

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Killitngrillit Forum Junkie Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Petawawa, ON, Canada Posts: 4,791	agreed, good post OP, but i think its too late, they cater to cod kiddies now. HeartboundStudio and mazatuslasagne like this.

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Selryam Forum Guru Join Date: May 2009 Location: North America, Earth, Milky Way. Posts: 1,698 Blog Entries: 4	The game kind of feels like a mix of Battlefield: Bad Company, and Medal of Honor. Maybe it is a prequel to an actual Battlefield 2 successor, regardless with the numbering. __________________ \|GTX 580\|8GB RAM DDR3 1333\|Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8GHz\|750W\|1TB HDD\| Thou must strike fear into the enemy; mentally and physically.

27-09-2011, 10:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
Bladezero101 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 5	Didn't get my key yet.. What did they change about the Heli physics? Please don't tell me they made it arcade style like in vietnam >>

27-09-2011, 10:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
Fr3quency Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 680	the options you mentioned add too much complexity for the average cod joe so I wont expect them to add it, it will scare the masses off. Although I agree with you Im afraid many good things (from the BF2 perspective) wont happen

27-09-2011, 10:26 PM	#11 (permalink)
SyntaxError255 Forum Guru Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Africa Posts: 2,458	Most of that stuff we are getting in BF3. The only things that need to be seen is flight physics for air vehicles. __________________

27-09-2011, 10:28 PM	#14 (permalink)
Silentwindofdoom Forum Guru Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,168	Battlefield 2 is not Battlefield. Maybe we should hope BF4 no longer allows aiming down sights and goes back to its true roots, open crosshairs CS style. That's true battlefield, not this noobed up accurate COD style gun play. No more noob revives either, if you're dead you're dead, play as a team more, etc. NateN34 likes this.

27-09-2011, 10:30 PM	#15 (permalink)
Zabytrid Rookie Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 344	Personally, I love the beta, but you know what, Dice need to add Caspian Border Conquest on all 3 platforms urgently, or they are going to lose a LOT of money!

27-09-2011, 10:42 PM	#17 (permalink)
Micke84Soul Forum Regular Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sweden. Posts: 925	Sounds good. __________________ Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE Gigabyte HD Radeon 6850 HD500 Seagate Sata-600 Corsair 4 Gb DDR3 1600 Mhz Antec Sonata IV ATX 620W

27-09-2011, 10:47 PM	#18 (permalink)
Koulikov762 Rookie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 329	Could be good without killcam. Womb_Ferrit likes this.

27-09-2011, 11:03 PM	#20 (permalink)
SturmovikDrakon Rookie Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Montreal Posts: 321	Agreed. Bring back the interactive map for squad-leaders. The ability to set way points and orders. Change the scoreboard to actually show team-orientated actions, assists, ect. This is exactly what I feel is missing. Please bring back these features for those that actually used them, instead of just getting rid of them all together HeartboundStudio and mazatuslasagne like this.

27-09-2011, 11:04 PM	#21 (permalink)
defenderscotland Forum Guru Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,562	I thought the whole idea of Alpha and beta was to test the game and see what the customers wanted in the game but apparently not,we test alpha told them we thought it was to much like bc2 rather than bf2. Result now its even more like bc3. BF2 is the best virtual war game ever without a doubt in every aspect, I was hoping bf3 would be as it suggests but this is not bf3 its bc3 and that sucks imho its like bringing out Fifa 2011 without a ball for the players to play, honestly what a huge disappointment dice had i known this was BC3 I would never had ordered it.... Slz21 likes this. Last edited by defenderscotland; 27-09-2011 at 11:06 PM.