The community has spoken: We want these fixes included in the next patch.

[Minmaster]

As many of you know, I created a poll on what the community wants DICE to fix in the upcoming patch. (What do you want fixed for the 1.51 patch - Total Gaming Network ) Many of you took part and here are the results. I know the 1.51 patch is already in testing, but hopefully they can still take a look at this poll and consider some of the most wanted fixes as requested by the people who still remain loyal to the game.

here are the results, self explanatory of what we want prioritized.


Thank you to all who voted and made an effort to be heard. DICE/EA, if you're reading this, please consider some of these requests, as they are from your paying loyal customers who have been supporting the game through very tough times.

[crysis40]

GOOD JOB man

hope they will listen

and more thing HACKERS

[Soulbreeze]

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Too bad I don't come here more often. I would have added "Defibrulation rez with random kit" to that list. Half the time someone rez's you, you are already in a bad position. But having it rez you with a freakin standard sniper rifle when you usually play assualt (and other mix ups) is insanely frustrating.
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[Fruity-Tootie]

Then that'll be because you've not put your unlocks in your sniper slots (and it's somehow selected) or because someone near you died this that kit and their kit bag is still there, but closer to your corpse so you get it.

[Minmaster]

updated the poll results (see 1st post). we collected 40 total votes. there were only 8 issues that received over 20 votes. these are indicated with red underlines with the ranks. now it seems much more obvious which of the fixes are more wanted than others.

not surprisingly, server crashing was the overwhelming pick for the most wanted fix issue.

[LordOfTheGames]

The biggest fixes should be:

1. Hitboxes and hitreg
2. Weapon balancing
3. server crashing - stability

Then the other things, because this 3 things are very frustrating.

[Splash-Damage]

LOL DICE/EA will patch how they want to,been done before DICE/EA patch things that don't need to "fixed".
Good job but don't hold your breath

LordOfTheGames! Thats a joke right No2 Weapon Balance !!?

[LordOfTheGames]

Originally Posted by Splash-Damage

LOL DICE/EA will patch how they want to,been done before DICE/EA patch things that don't need to "fixed".
Good job but don't hold your breath

LordOfTheGames! Thats a joke right No2 Weapon Balance !!?

It is not a joke. It is my full seriousness.
Krylov, Voss, Clark and rockets are too strong. They should be less powerful.
SCAR, Lambert, Malkov need more power. xD
And the speeder is also a big joke in NS because the people in there die too fast because of no shield.

[C-Kinetic]

Hit reg is a big issue,,,,,

[SilverRook79]

Originally Posted by LordOfTheGames

It is not a joke. It is my full seriousness.
Krylov, Voss, Clark and rockets are too strong. They should be less powerful.
SCAR, Lambert, Malkov need more power. xD
And the speeder is also a big joke in NS because the people in there die too fast because of no shield.

if your getting killed by the voss krylov or clark or rockets then USE them against your enemy its not like you CANT have these weapons the lambert is fine so is the malkov and scar i actually prefer the scar over the voss.

lambert is a close range sniper weapon asa balance to the 2 other long range weapons other wise you would only have a pistol and death in close quarters.

Malkov - or engy shredder as i call it - it doesnt need more power it need a better operator by the sounds of it i can kill from the top of silo 5 suez on that tower pop pop pop pop single shots down the the IGA boards next to the bridge and killed someone and its bloody lethal close range... if you want bigger guns change your kit around use ASSAULT with the voss if you want more power... jeez

clark is a close range bad lalala weapon - the solution to getting pwned by this all the time my little friend is shoot him from further away XD

speeder ok its a FAV for NS FAST ATTACK VEHICLE . NOT and armoured transport its meant for hit and run the FAV on suez for example dont have shields either but your not complaining about them..... after reading a few of these balancing threads and make this better or that better - most of you have no idea of balancing and want ONE class with all the best guns so you dont have to think of strategy to capturing flags you just wanna steam up to them with the biggest guns in the best vehicles with armor - jeez go play spectre if you want that - refer to 80's games wiki for that

and back to the original thread title....... THE COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN.... oh has it ??? all 40 posters of that poll ? ?? wow

honestly give me strength - where has al the common sense gone ?

the kit bug is annoying i'll give you that but it doesnt bother me that much i'm gonna slam my keyboard down in frustration and DEMAND ea fix it hahahaha

the biggest annoyance to me again ilalalala boxes especailly on FAVS barrelling head on at a tank that cant hit it for sheet.

collision detection could be improved so people dont get shot thro walls by someone shooting their feet sticking out thro the wall etc

the doragon and talon are perfectly balanced too the only problem is the shield

i find that most of the people that complain about the doragon being inferior are those that try and fight from the clouds.... i have no problems shooting down the talon you just fly closer to the ground and put buildings between you and the missiles so they hit and lose tracking - killing with the doragon is easy you have to lead your target by miles again something noobs dont seem to be able to grasp

but yes i agree with the shield fix mainly the fact that it has latency problems - a missile can hit the shield and impact on the shield but still kill you because of the lag between the missile and target shields going offline the missile can hit just as your shields are going up or down and you hear it impact but you still die.... please fix this.

leave everything else alone just stop servers crashing

[LordOfTheGames]

Originally Posted by SilverRook79

if your getting killed by the voss krylov or clark or rockets then USE them against your enemy its not like you CANT have these weapons the lambert is fine so is the malkov and scar i actually prefer the scar over the voss.

It is not a really good argument that I should take the weapons. It is just a fact that these weapons are to strong or too low...

Originally Posted by SilverRook79

lambert is a close range sniper weapon asa balance to the 2 other long range weapons other wise you would only have a pistol and death in close quarters.

Malkov - or engy shredder as i call it - it doesnt need more power it need a better operator by the sounds of it i can kill from the top of silo 5 suez on that tower pop pop pop pop single shots down the the IGA boards next to the bridge and killed someone and its bloody lethal close range... if you want bigger guns change your kit around use ASSAULT with the voss if you want more power... jeez

Maybe you are right with these arguments but the last sentence is really bad. I always play Assult with Krylov and Scar and I don't need more power for my weapons. As I said before it is just a fact.
Rocket spamming, nade spamming and continuous fire with Voss are just standard on public.

Originally Posted by SilverRook79

clark is a close range bad lalala weapon - the solution to getting pwned by this all the time my little friend is shoot him from further away XD

Clark is since patch 1.40 (I think) the biggest absurd weapon. It shoots very fast and most of the time it only needs one shot to kill somebody over high ranges...

Originally Posted by SilverRook79

speeder ok its a FAV for NS FAST ATTACK VEHICLE . NOT and armoured transport its meant for hit and run the FAV on suez for example dont have shields either but your not complaining about them.....

Maybe I took the false words. I did not mean shield like the gunship or Tank has. I meant a better plating because with the soldiers in it die very fast. It is not important for me but I would prefer it and a lot of players too, I think.

Originally Posted by SilverRook79

after reading a few of these balancing threads and make this better or that better - most of you have no idea of balancing and want ONE class with all the best guns so you dont have to think of strategy to capturing flags you just wanna steam up to them with the biggest guns in the best vehicles with armor - jeez go play spectre if you want that - refer to 80's games wiki for that

You know nothing. I have over 1000 hours on public and a I play in professional leagues. When I play public then only Conquest and not Titan. But when I play Titan then only with gunship, this makes sometimes fun on Titan server. I don't want one class with best weapons it were just some suggestions. And most of the Battlefiel players think so too! And this is one of the reason why a lot of people quit the game. And I know that a lot of people quit because of the bugs too.

[C-Kinetic]

Yeah lets no0b it up with the Voss and PK's pmpl

[Forces(UK)]

Originally Posted by SilverRook79

if your getting killed by the voss krylov or clark or rockets then USE them against your enemy its not like you CANT have these weapons

You are of course right in what you say, although I find that when people respond to PKs with more PKs, it changes the character of the game.

I'd even go further and say it's not playing the game in the spirit in which it was intended, ...which I believe centres around countering something with something else (scissors paper stone).

Rockets require far less accuracy than bullets, because of the splash damage, and this makes them attractive to unskilled players.

You tend to get one of three things in the end:

1. A gentlemen's agreement emerges where it's understood that equipping PKs = being an 4rse
2. The battlefield descends into a sea of exploding rockets, and skill-play jumps out the window without a chute
3. A mixed evolved strategy where a few players equip PKs, but most don't, and the game is still fun to play

I wonder if DICE ever tested the game with the support class getting rockets instead of the assault guys? That might work.

[SilverRook79]

Originally Posted by LordOfTheGames

It is not a really good argument that I should take the weapons. It is just a fact that these weapons are to strong or too low...

maybe theres some confusion in some sort of translation.

Clark is since patch 1.40 (I think) the biggest absurd weapon. It shoots very fast and most of the time it only needs one shot to kill somebody over high ranges...

Hmmmm have you ever fired a shotgun? clay pigeon shooting etc ?
They DO have a big range and they are extremely deadly and very accurate in the right hands... this is my frame of reference for clark

The assault combat shotgun fires faster than the clark
And before the 1.40 patch the clark was useless took too long between shots and had hardly any damage.

Have you played BF2 ??? look at the jackhammer it may not be accurate at range like the clark but it fires..... OOOOOHHHHHH so quick and can destroy large groups of people capping flags but i guess this is too "nerf" aswell

Maybe I took the false words. I did not mean shield like the gunship or Tank has. I meant a better plating because with the soldiers in it die very fast. It is not important for me but I would prefer it and a lot of players too, I think.

Yes while it is quite annoying (apart from the fact i dont play NS anymore), but, i cant stress enough that it is a reconnaisance (forces-uk correct my spellingXD )vehicle made for hit and run your not expect to stand still and become a sitting duck i mean look where the guy is standing on the back - adding more armour to encase the rear gunner would notably increase weight in the vehicle, unbalance it and make it horrbile to drive and then become another vehicle entirely - frankly i think NS is a waste of time and i only played it to get my extra unlocks back in the day lol

You know nothing. I have over 1000 hours on public and a I play in professional leagues. When I play public then only Conquest and not Titan. But when I play Titan then only with gunship, this makes sometimes fun on Titan server. I don't want one class with best weapons it were just some suggestions. And most of the Battlefiel players think so too! And this is one of the reason why a lot of people quit the game. And I know that a lot of people quit because of the bugs too.

Sounds like you "specialise" whatever you do - this is where your problem lies - spend too long playing a certain class or vehicle then your skills with other weapons or vehicles diminishes.

apologies... this wasnt directed AT you but at the noob community in general with the attitude of "meh this gun i spent my unlock on isnt that good DICE should change it"

[SilverRook79]

Originally Posted by Forces(UK)

You are of course right in what you say, although I find that when people respond to PKs with more PKs, it changes the character of the game.

I'd even go further and say it's not playing the game in the spirit in which it was intended, ...which I believe centres around countering something with something else (scissors paper stone).

Rockets require far less accuracy than bullets, because of the splash damage, and this makes them attractive to unskilled players.

You tend to get one of three things in the end:

1. A gentlemen's agreement emerges where it's understood that equipping PKs = being an 4rse
2. The battlefield descends into a sea of exploding rockets, and skill-play jumps out the window without a chute
3. A mixed evolved strategy where a few players equip PKs, but most don't, and the game is still fun to play

I wonder if DICE ever tested the game with the support class getting rockets instead of the assault guys? That might work.

I understand what your saying and yes pk's aer annoying but i hardly ever get killed by them because i can adapt my play style and not lemming myself endlessly into said rockets... i'm certain the fact i dont camp and if under fire from pks its always at a range i can move 10feet from my position that they targetted me at and pks cant track so sounds like the ones complaining ENDLESSLY about pk's not just the grown up ones who can accept ok they pwned me move on and dont go into the titan chutes or hide in the towers which is where i presume people are getting pwned cuz its easier to shoot for collateral damage than it is to aim your shot like i do scroll up set the distance, pop up and pop the rocket above the wall = dead camping soldier

i'm sorry but people (not you forces) spend far too long complaining about how they cant play the game and how the weapons are killing them too easily instead of thinking tactically and planning an attack on something and learning how best to combat the attackers ar'senal


have you played conflict 2142 ? Dice should adopt this and release it as a booster pack

people left this game because of the lack of support for it and the lack of user content
we all know the gungame from css ?? CSS has the winning formula purely because its open to custom content, even tho the game is full of noobhax but thats just down to software companies not talking to each other and making a decent anti cheat

there are quite a few good TCmods out there but they are lacking support and content copyright issues - DICE give your customers support they need and help them in developing stuff by releasing the game to Custom content WITH ANTI cheat

i care not about my unlocks if its a Total Conversion and unlocks and ranking is irrelavant

[C-Kinetic]

I have played conflict 2142 for several campaigns ,,, there weapons are way overpowered ,, the maps are well put together tho,,,,

For you to say people should adapt to pk rockets ,, i spend most of my time laughing at the guy firing them 1, there are mostly no0Bs 2, they don't even know how to use them without some building there to shoot at,, i find it really amusing ,, the other night i went on a north american server with my Deputy Clan Leader who is from cali, because i always moan about north american servers (not all) as how much they like to camp and spray and pray the voss and no0b it up the the PK"s ,, "So i decided i was going to show them how to use rockets" i was running around camp g using my PK's as my primary weapon" ended up with a score per min of 4.50 something had a few kick votes ,, even made my best friend leave the server because i used pk's ,,, they are overpowered and are for low skillers only ,, anyone who says different has no clue what they are talking about,,,

And i aint even going to mention the no0B cannon

[SilverRook79]

Originally Posted by C-Kinetic

I have played conflict 2142 for several campaigns ,,, there weapons are way overpowered ,, the maps are well put together tho,,,,

For you to say people should adapt to pk rockets ,, i spend most of my time laughing at the guy firing them 1, there are mostly no0Bs 2, they don't even know how to use them without some building there to shoot at,, i find it really amusing ,, the other night i went on a north american server with my Deputy Clan Leader who is from cali, because i always moan about north american servers (not all) as how much they like to camp and spray and pray the voss and no0b it up the the PK"s ,, "So i decided i was going to show them how to use rockets" i was running around camp g using my PK's as my primary weapon" ended up with a score per min of 4.50 something had a few kick votes ,, even made my best friend leave the server because i used pk's ,,, they are overpowered and are for low skillers only ,, anyone who says different has no clue what they are talking about,,,

And i aint even going to mention the no0B cannon

glad you agree with me that pks ARE good in skilled hands but tend to be used for their impact detonation on walls instead of what they were possibly intended for and thats picking off snipers camping on top of buildings or soldiers hiding behind cover and voss is spray and pray but again PK's give smoke trails and lead me right to the firer once i have moved 10ft in any direction to avoid them in open ground they are useless unless your pro at guessing distances of finding a point of reference like a barrel the guy is gonna run past and set the detonation distance of them to hit him as he runs past but thats too pro for noobs lol

Rule of thumb if you dont like PK's dont stand still/next to or behind cover for very long at all


also pk rockets dont count towards your stats looooool anyone else noticed it ? maybe dice/ea took it out because of it being such a nerf gun lol

[VectorRoll]

There are a few things that are not tracked in the stats. I never really looked at the PK rockets though. I know that defib is one.

[Forces(UK)]

Originally Posted by C-Kinetic

even made my best friend leave the server because i used pk's ,,, they are overpowered and are for low skillers only ,, anyone who says different has no clue what they are talking about,,,

This.

[SilverRook79]

Originally Posted by Forces(UK)

This.

lol all i am saying is they CAN be avoided and yes an overwhelming majority do noobtube them but they are usefull in the right way like popping those annoying roof campers at inner bridge lock on suez.

forces..... you havea 257 death streak ? ??? and a 600 kill streak ???
how is that even possible without padding ?

dont get me wrong i know the stats are screwed am not suggesting your a padder lol far from it just how the hell can it say 600 kill streak lol 600 kills.... without dying :S

[I_HAS_A_SHUVEL]

fixXxoreD

Originally Posted by Forces(UK)

You are of course right in what you say, although I find that when people respond to PKs with more PKs, it changes the character of the game.

I'd even go further and say it's not playing the game in the spirit in which it was intended, ...which I believe centres around countering something with something else (Paper, Scissors, Rock.).(American southern version)

Rockets require far less accuracy than bullets, because of the splash damage, and this makes them attractive to unskilled players.

You tend to get one of three things in the end:

1. A gentlemen's agreement emerges where it's understood that equipping PKs = being an 4rse
2. The battlefield descends into a sea of exploding rockets, and skill-play jumps out the window without a chute
3. A mixed evolved strategy where a few players equip PKs, but most don't, and the game is still fun to play

I wonder if DICE ever tested the game with the support class getting rockets instead of the assault guys? That might work.

[Forces(UK)]

Originally Posted by SilverRook79

forces..... you havea 257 death streak ? ??? and a 600 kill streak ???
how is that even possible without padding ?

Oh, a little while back some bored kids were a bit jealous of the fact that I had attained rather a high score without using cheats (they preferred to cheat).

So, they attacked my account using nerd power, and altered my stats in a failed attempt to get me reset.

There is no point in DICE sorting out my stats till the next update is released, because the first thing is to plug any holes that may remain in the stats database or server code.

I'm a patient guy, and I'm pleased that DICE realise what happened, so I'm perfectly happy to let my silly stats remain till the next update.

The admins on the servers I use all know about what happened, so I never get any bother from it.

[Fruity-Tootie]

No mate, they just fiddled with your deaths right? Your kill streak is yours.

[Forces(UK)]

lol

as I remember, my actual kill streak is 37

[LordOfTheGames]

Originally Posted by SilverRook79

The assault combat shotgun fires faster than the clark

Joke of the day!
Hahaha! xD

Originally Posted by SilverRook79

And before the 1.40 patch the clark was useless took too long between shots and had hardly any damage.

Now most of the weapons are useless and some weapons are dominant.

Do you go with closed eyes over the battlefield? Because it seems that you don't see the problems. So it does not make a sense to talk with you...
Sry mate, let's hope the best for the patch.