c'mon where's this patch? - Page 2

mattyboiuk2k4 · 21-10-2009, 06:43 PM

Maybe it will be a Christmas present for us all

RanCorX2 · 21-10-2009, 07:09 PM

perhaps but by that time it'll be very late. I was hoping for it a tad sooner. :P

mattyboiuk2k4 · 21-10-2009, 09:34 PM

Im sure it cant be long now, they have had long enough since the BF2 patch was released, I need this patch since MW2 is out of the window now lol

crysis40 · 21-10-2009, 10:36 PM

guys its just 1.51 not 1.60 or 1.70

they didn't say a thing about fix all the bugs on the list or at lest some of them

Minmaster · 21-10-2009, 11:45 PM

for the amount of time they're taking on this, they could've developed a new game. for a patch that took 1 year, there better be some major fixes. you don't do this (make people wait a year) for few minor changes.

jb2112 · 22-10-2009, 03:38 AM

I must say, that I am getting really tired of you MINMASTER... You have been parading around these forums, and others, like you ARE THE END ALL, KNOW ALL, FINAL SAY to 2142.

My first question is, how can you submit results to your POLL, and then expect the patch within a week after you submit the results?

Second question...

How many games do you know of that get a patch 3 years, after game is released? I can think of only 2, BF2, and 2142. The only patch you would get from Activision/Treyarch, would BE A NEW GAME THAT COSTS $65.00.

Last question...

If you LOVE THIS GAME, as much as it appears you do, can you learn to be patient, like everyone else?

final advice, stop contradicting yourself....

Minmaster · 22-10-2009, 04:03 AM

oh shut up, the patch was already in testing when my poll was being held.

let me turn the questions around:

how many games do you know that have major issues like servers crashing after 3 years? not really acceptable imo.

activision/treyarch doesn't mess up games and not fix it, otherwise there would be a huge outcry. the only reason 2142 outcry is so quiet is because the community is barely existent. COD MW isn't in need of a patch because the game runs very well.

if i didn't care about the game, i wouldn't even comment about it in the forums. obviously, i do care and this is why i am campaigning for fixes.

i have patience. the patch was announced nearly a year ago along with the screenshots of new map. after nearly a year, you would think people's patience is getting thin. either you have incredible patience or you're used to patches taking 1 year.

crysis40 · 22-10-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Minmaster

for the amount of time they're taking on this, they could've developed a new game. for a patch that took 1 year, there better be some major fixes. you don't do this (make people wait a year) for few minor changes.

will they didnt say any thing about the MAJOR fixs

look at this
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/10862882-post29.html

oh BTW how do know that they are testing the PATCH????

RanCorX2 · 22-10-2009, 11:18 AM

saying that's a minor patch, it should've been released ages ago.

Forces(UK) · 22-10-2009, 02:36 PM

Baza, if you see this, I think it might be a really good time to pass comment.

BigBadJames · 22-10-2009, 03:37 PM

Actually the game itself isnt so bad. Now if EA would crack a serious whip on Evenbalance (Punkbuster) and get them to do THEIR job right, the game would be more enjoyable.

RanCorX2 · 22-10-2009, 05:44 PM

^ too right, getting kicked because pb crashes is annoying. Especially when you just get a blank box that saylalalalalaBUSTER and no other reasons for the kick. I remember when it messed up bad and caused stuttering because it kept scanning constantly stuff on your hdd. Took them more than a week to fix that.

mattyboiuk2k4 · 22-10-2009, 06:34 PM

You have to remember that 2142 is probably not on the very top of their priority list at the moment especially with 1943, Bad Company 2 and BF3 in development at the same time.

Also they said that they would work on it after the BF2 patch had been released, which was only a month and a half ago! If testing is going on as you said then they have probably done a few weeks internal testing, fixed some issues, outsourced it to a testing company for another couple of weeks, fixed some issues found in closed testing and are now either preparing it for open beta or release. These things don't happen over night, and since I still love this game I'm willing to wait for a while until its ready.

Fruity-Tootie · 22-10-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Forces(UK)

Baza, if you see this, I think it might be a really good time to pass comment.

Or hide in the shadows before they find the pitchforks!

jb2112 · 22-10-2009, 06:56 PM

maybe they are doing a lot more than expected?

HeatSurge · 22-10-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jb2112

maybe they are doing a lot more than expected?

Maybe they have 1 intern working on this patch 2 hours a day while sipping tea for lunch break?

Seriously, this game is dead for me. I can't believe I played it so much considering all the bugs (which have already been posted elsewhere) and the annoying server crashing / exploits. It's a miracle really... but I'm over it now. I barely play anymore...

But really, the server crashing (through exploits or just regularly for no good reason) alone (nevermind the other bugs) is something which no other developer has left unpatched for so long (3 years after release), ever. Correct me if I'm wrong. This is a HUGE failure for Dice IMO. I'll look deep into 1943 / BC2 / BF3's server stability before even considering playing them at this point. I'm not putting up with another debacle like this, as fun as the new games might be.

Waiting for 1943 / BC2 at this point and hoping they actually did a good job on the server stability this time.

BTW whoever says we don't have patience is a bit confused (to say the least) imo. The mere fact that someone is even playing this game and even checking forums, hoping to see updates after 3 years of server crashing is more patience than I've ever seen anywhere else TBH.

VectorRoll · 22-10-2009, 07:47 PM

I hope that my patience holds out.

I really want to play this new map pretty badly. It would be nice to have a change of pace right about now.

jb2112 · 22-10-2009, 09:18 PM

well, I think that's my point, is that most companies wouldn't even bother with a 3 year old game...So whatever is in the patch, will be a good thing.

Minmaster · 22-10-2009, 11:48 PM

the patch is coming, but the sad part is people are leaving all over. server counts and player counts have been dropping. they're probably sick of waiting too.

SgtBeckler · 24-10-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Forces(UK)

I think it's needlessly insulting to say that the devs are incompetent.

Thousands of people have enjoyed thousands of hours playing 2142, so the devs obviously got lots right.

If a car had as many problems as this game, what would you say. Incompetence doesn't necessarily mean inability, it just means you're not particularly competent

Take the ridiculously unacceptable kit selection problems you're no doubt familiar with and the pathetic attempt to fix it which did nothing at all. A pretty simple issue which, in the real software world (this is the irrelevant game world we're talking about here, let's recall) would be treated by managers like this: fix the problem in *your* software or lalalala and we'll find someone who can.

So there are two possibilities, only:

A. The game code was well-written, properly documented, always developed with future modification in mind. If true, and you can't figure it out, you're incompetent.

B. Poorly written, undocumented code. If you write this type of software, you're incompetent (obviously).

Two other points: Maybe the code is somewhere inbetween A&B. Well IMO, If it's not A, it's B.

Secondly, perhaps there's like 1 person only still working on this and they can't possibly figure this out. Valid point.

Lastly I feel I've wasted 15 min. discussing some old game that no one cares about anymore.

Forces(UK) · 24-10-2009, 08:28 PM

I maintain that it's needlessly insulting to say that the devs are incompetent, though I respect the rigour with which you have argued otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Fruity-Tootie

Or hide in the shadows before they find the pitchforks!

He'd probably escape on skis like James Bond.

crysis40 · 24-10-2009, 08:38 PM

Come on dice
===========
bf2142 is not a fail
but it is a dice fail

LordOfTheGames · 25-10-2009, 01:36 AM

The new patch will come when nobody will play this game anymore.

Or they still have stopped to work for the patch. One advice could be that nobody from DICE or EA look into that forum and give some feedback about producing.

LordOfKaos2142 · 27-10-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SgtBeckler

If a car had as many problems as this game, what would you say. Incompetence doesn't necessarily mean inability, it just means you're not particularly competent

Take the ridiculously unacceptable kit selection problems you're no doubt familiar with and the pathetic attempt to fix it which did nothing at all. A pretty simple issue which, in the real software world (this is the irrelevant game world we're talking about here, let's recall) would be treated by managers like this: fix the problem in *your* software or lalalala and we'll find someone who can.

So there are two possibilities, only:

A. The game code was well-written, properly documented, always developed with future modification in mind. If true, and you can't figure it out, you're incompetent.

B. Poorly written, undocumented code. If you write this type of software, you're incompetent (obviously).

Two other points: Maybe the code is somewhere inbetween A&B. Well IMO, If it's not A, it's B.

Secondly, perhaps there's like 1 person only still working on this and they can't possibly figure this out. Valid point.

Lastly I feel I've wasted 15 min. discussing some old game that no one cares about anymore.

So if there's one section of undocumented poorly written code then the devs must be incompetent of course

One current standard coding practice is to re-use older code where possible to reduce time and cost. Generally most older code is poorly written and undocumented since coding standards were fairly fluid or non-existent till recently. Also consider that most of the older developers will have learned their trade when there wasn't any coding standards. Also writing documentation is really really dull.

Calling them incompetent for this is very poor form to be honest. Coding is monotonous and can be quite difficult. Add in documentation for further monotony and yeah corners will be cut to get a good end product out in a reasonable timeframe.

Minmaster · 27-10-2009, 04:51 PM

one section? have you been living under a rock for the past 3 yrs?

21-10-2009, 07:09 PM	#27 (permalink)
RanCorX2 Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Age: 26 Gender: Male Posts: 656	perhaps but by that time it'll be very late. I was hoping for it a tad sooner. :P __________________ Now that's an explosion.

21-10-2009, 10:36 PM	#29 (permalink)
crysis40 Rookie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: KSA SAUDI ARABIA Posts: 80	guys its just 1.51 not 1.60 or 1.70 they didn't say a thing about fix all the bugs on the list or at lest some of them __________________

21-10-2009, 11:45 PM	#30 (permalink)
Minmaster Rookie Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 194	for the amount of time they're taking on this, they could've developed a new game. for a patch that took 1 year, there better be some major fixes. you don't do this (make people wait a year) for few minor changes. __________________ Vote for what you want to see in the upcoming BF2142 patch!

22-10-2009, 04:03 AM	#32 (permalink)
Minmaster Rookie Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 194	oh shut up, the patch was already in testing when my poll was being held. let me turn the questions around: how many games do you know that have major issues like servers crashing after 3 years? not really acceptable imo. activision/treyarch doesn't mess up games and not fix it, otherwise there would be a huge outcry. the only reason 2142 outcry is so quiet is because the community is barely existent. COD MW isn't in need of a patch because the game runs very well. if i didn't care about the game, i wouldn't even comment about it in the forums. obviously, i do care and this is why i am campaigning for fixes. i have patience. the patch was announced nearly a year ago along with the screenshots of new map. after nearly a year, you would think people's patience is getting thin. either you have incredible patience or you're used to patches taking 1 year. __________________ Vote for what you want to see in the upcoming BF2142 patch!

22-10-2009, 11:18 AM	#34 (permalink)
RanCorX2 Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Age: 26 Gender: Male Posts: 656	saying that's a minor patch, it should've been released ages ago. __________________ Now that's an explosion.

21-10-2009, 06:43 PM	#26 (permalink)
mattyboiuk2k4 Rookie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 14	Maybe it will be a Christmas present for us all

21-10-2009, 09:34 PM	#28 (permalink)
mattyboiuk2k4 Rookie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 14	Im sure it cant be long now, they have had long enough since the BF2 patch was released, I need this patch since MW2 is out of the window now lol

22-10-2009, 03:38 AM	#31 (permalink)
jb2112 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 7	I must say, that I am getting really tired of you MINMASTER... You have been parading around these forums, and others, like you ARE THE END ALL, KNOW ALL, FINAL SAY to 2142. My first question is, how can you submit results to your POLL, and then expect the patch within a week after you submit the results? Second question... How many games do you know of that get a patch 3 years, after game is released? I can think of only 2, BF2, and 2142. The only patch you would get from Activision/Treyarch, would BE A NEW GAME THAT COSTS $65.00. Last question... If you LOVE THIS GAME, as much as it appears you do, can you learn to be patient, like everyone else? final advice, stop contradicting yourself....

22-10-2009, 02:36 PM	#35 (permalink)
Forces(UK) Forum Guru Join Date: Jul 2008 Age: 33 Gender: Male Posts: 2,204	Baza, if you see this, I think it might be a really good time to pass comment. __________________ RIP Debi "Albatross", 1990-2009 A kind, fun, warm person. Thanks for cheering me up when I really needed it. So very sad to learn that you're not here now.

22-10-2009, 03:37 PM	#36 (permalink)
BigBadJames Rookie Join Date: May 2009 Location: United States Age: 30 Gender: Male Posts: 13	Actually the game itself isnt so bad. Now if EA would crack a serious whip on Evenbalance (Punkbuster) and get them to do THEIR job right, the game would be more enjoyable. __________________ Last edited by BigBadJames; 22-10-2009 at 03:44 PM..

22-10-2009, 05:44 PM	#37 (permalink)
RanCorX2 Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Age: 26 Gender: Male Posts: 656	^ too right, getting kicked because pb crashes is annoying. Especially when you just get a blank box that saylalalalalaBUSTER and no other reasons for the kick. I remember when it messed up bad and caused stuttering because it kept scanning constantly stuff on your hdd. Took them more than a week to fix that. __________________ Now that's an explosion.

22-10-2009, 06:34 PM	#38 (permalink)
mattyboiuk2k4 Rookie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 14	You have to remember that 2142 is probably not on the very top of their priority list at the moment especially with 1943, Bad Company 2 and BF3 in development at the same time. Also they said that they would work on it after the BF2 patch had been released, which was only a month and a half ago! If testing is going on as you said then they have probably done a few weeks internal testing, fixed some issues, outsourced it to a testing company for another couple of weeks, fixed some issues found in closed testing and are now either preparing it for open beta or release. These things don't happen over night, and since I still love this game I'm willing to wait for a while until its ready.

22-10-2009, 06:56 PM	#40 (permalink)
jb2112 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 7	maybe they are doing a lot more than expected?

22-10-2009, 07:47 PM	#42 (permalink)
VectorRoll Battlefield Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: US Gender: Male Posts: 5,874	I hope that my patience holds out. I really want to play this new map pretty badly. It would be nice to have a change of pace right about now. __________________ Battlefield Series \| Battlefield ROC \| Forum Rules \| Forum FAQ's PSN: VectorRoll HelpGuide For Router Settings. BF2142 Fullscreen & Widescreen Resolution Guide.

22-10-2009, 09:18 PM	#43 (permalink)
jb2112 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 7	well, I think that's my point, is that most companies wouldn't even bother with a 3 year old game...So whatever is in the patch, will be a good thing.

22-10-2009, 11:48 PM	#44 (permalink)
Minmaster Rookie Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 194	the patch is coming, but the sad part is people are leaving all over. server counts and player counts have been dropping. they're probably sick of waiting too. __________________ Vote for what you want to see in the upcoming BF2142 patch!

24-10-2009, 08:38 PM	#47 (permalink)
crysis40 Rookie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: KSA SAUDI ARABIA Posts: 80	Come on dice =========== bf2142 is not a fail but it is a dice fail __________________

25-10-2009, 01:36 AM	#48 (permalink)
LordOfTheGames Rookie Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 12	The new patch will come when nobody will play this game anymore. Or they still have stopped to work for the patch. One advice could be that nobody from DICE or EA look into that forum and give some feedback about producing.

27-10-2009, 04:51 PM	#50 (permalink)
Minmaster Rookie Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 194	one section? have you been living under a rock for the past 3 yrs? __________________ Vote for what you want to see in the upcoming BF2142 patch!