How attentive do you find server admins?

[LutherBlissett]

Recently I watched a gamer try and stick up for a poorly administrated server.

Once you stripped away the waffle, his only actual defence was "everyone needs to sleep".

Well, a HUGE gaming community with admins in all sorts of time zones should be able to put together a rota which addresses that rather straightforward issue.


That said, I still see a lot of servers whose members are happy to boast about how popular their servers are, even though they're often used as a playground for cheats.

Perhaps smaller servers and clans have more of an excuse, because of practical limitations on people's time, ...but what do you think?

This guy quoted his 1200 hours game time logged, and so I'll quote my 3000 hours and say that I and others have seen it going on under our noses, and we have felt the frustration of seeing nobody do anything about it at all. So anyone who wants to pretend that the problems I describe don't exist can save the whitewash.


What about some of the rest of the users here?

Do you find that most servers are well adminned, ...by which minimally I mean that an admin is present?

Or do you find that players are frequently allowed to get kills at ranges WAY beyond that which would normally even allow them SEE their target, let alone HIT it?


I'm sure that plenty of cheat accusations are based on paranoia or poor judgement, but pretty much any realistic observer will realise that a significant number are based on fact and sound judgement.

So, are the admins doing a good job of helping to maintain a fair gaming environment, or are they letting us down?

I know for a fact that SOME clans do a FANTASTIC job of being thorough and rigorous in keeping things fair, whereas others clearly do not.

I just wonder what the general feeling is out there in the community..?

[page2142]

My experience is that in titan mode no matter what server and whether it is clear that there is an admin there or not... people will always break rules (eg motion mines on titan shields which most servers frown upon), ramming with air vehicles etc which just gets on my nerves to no end. I refuse to play with people that play like that. Even more so I refuse to play on servers where your concerns are ignored.

In conquest there is rarely any problem apart from of course the more serious problems of aimbots and wallhacks etc... which requires a good admin with full access to do everything they can to catch them... and if they can't catch them then watch them for a wee bit untill it is beyond no doubt that they are cheating in one way or another. I really annoys me (and i can say this for our clan too) when admins just ban for 'aimbot' without trying the pb screenshots etc.

My opinion is that if an server isn't at least admined to some degree then it isnt worth the time of day...

I would say that most servers are admined horribly or not at all... even clan servers where you risk killing the admin and thus being kicked. The other day I was kicked from a server right at the end of the round for killing everyone as they ran out the back of the titan in the gunship?! Pathetic...

I would say that there is only a handful of clans that have the correct measures in place and the correct attitude... if an admin is even on.

[Di4mond]

Originally Posted by page2142

My opinion is that if an server isn't at least admined to some degree then it isnt worth the time of day...

I'm starting to agree on that

Can I ask a question ... using pod drops as AA weapons is it "legal"? Cuz I've started to get the fell for knocking down Air Transports with pod drops.

[Ap0stacy]

Admins only really take action whenever it affects them. I don't see them responding at all, to other peoples complaints.

[Soulbreeze]

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That probably goes server by server, Diamond. Some clans don't like it. Personally, i see no problem using pods as killing weapons. If they didn't want it in the game, I'd assume it'd be an easy fix to make pods not do damage.

On topic: I don't usually worry about admins being around unless I've had a game or two where I can tell someone is cheating. At that point, I won't stay on a server unless there are a few clan members on it. Of course, I can't positively tell if someone is cheating, but personal experience tells me that some **** just isn't possible manually.
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[page2142]

Originally Posted by Di4mond

I'm starting to agree on that

Can I ask a question ... using pod drops as AA weapons is it "legal"? Cuz I've started to get the fell for knocking down Air Transports with pod drops.

100% legitimate way of killing.

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It's not a case of if an admin isn't on you WILL have a bad game... I judge a server 100% by the way the admins watch it, not by the people that join it. If I get kicked for some stupid illegitimate reason then I generally go back in with the intent of getting banned - just to make sure it never happens again

[litigationexec]

ive foound that the majority of the time the peolpe who admin are usually cheating themselves and kick/ban anyone who dares speak up about it, theres the ones who are sore loosers who if you get a good shot in they think you have an aimbot and then kick you -dgk is the noooob clan server which does that and then there is the conquest maps where there are no base rapeing rules and then admin just wanr the same people repetedly rather than warn once then kick then ban etc

****in muppets

[LutherBlissett]

^ what he said

[page2142]

There are very few impartial admins... atleast once or twice a day im kicked for some rebated reason, which basically boils down to killing the admin.

On the topic of admins but slightly bending off this particular topic.. I was on a server which had one of the most ridiculous server rules that I have ever seen. I regret not prin-screening it because its one of those ones you wouldn't believe but here we go: it read DO NOT USE THE SAAW UNLESS IT IS ABSOLUTELY NECCESSARY!!! lol noob admins basically make up when the saaw is alowed and when it isn't! They deserve a slap.

[Ap0stacy]

On the topic of server rules. I find it funny that one server said 'Don't use any vehicles!' and kick people for using them (saw them do it), yet they use the conquest game type when there is the 'No vehicles' type instead.

Stupid no?

[page2142]

very stupid.

[noxxus]

how's this one : i was by a flag in my tank on suez canal and was completely still, yet i somehow managed to get a team kill punish by some sucker that lodged himself into the tracks by crawling underneath it, and that got me kicked. :shrug:

[litigationexec]

Originally Posted by noxxus

how's this one : i was by a flag in my tank on suez canal and was completely still, yet i somehow managed to get a team kill punish by some sucker that lodged himself into the tracks by crawling underneath it, and that got me kicked. :shrug:

yeah theres is sopme real idiots out there who must like to comit suicde by running headfirst at a tank or walker when it clearly is full they get killed - they subsequently punish you and then the noobie server admins kick you or ban you- ****wits

[VectorRoll]

Originally Posted by noxxus

how's this one : i was by a flag in my tank on suez canal and was completely still, yet i somehow managed to get a team kill punish by some sucker that lodged himself into the tracks by crawling underneath it, and that got me kicked. :shrug:

I had this happen to me before as well. What can you do?
A lot of admins will just take actions before thinking about what truely happened. That is why it is good to search around for servers that have decent admins. Even if the latency is not as good as others. Yet no matter what server you find their is always a chance for something as ridiculous as this happening. Which is a sad thing.

[LutherBlissett]

Originally Posted by VectorRoll

What can you do?

Track them down, plant a giant burning cross in front of their house, and then stand by it at midnight chanting, while smearing dog's blood over your naked body with one hand and holding a sword in the other.

If that doesn't work out, then get back to me. I'm always full of good ideas.

[page2142]

Originally Posted by LutherBlissett

Track them down, plant a giant burning cross in front of their house, and then stand by it at midnight chanting, while smearing dog's blood over your naked body with one hand and holding a sword in the other.

If that doesn't work out, then get back to me. I'm always full of good ideas.

tied that it works a treeeeat!!!!

lol on the topic of kicking for punnishing, I have kicked a noob or two for punishing me when it was clearly their fault, am i a bad person?! On really stupid occasions though and in the end of the day I don't want some noob screwing up my score due to his actions.

[LutherBlissett]

Tough love...

Sometimes a punished TK sort of wakes them up and makes them think twice about where they're chucking nades... ...and they become a better player for it.

The funniest TKs are when someone plays their first EVER game of BF2142 and their friend hasn't yet explained the difference between the friendly and hostile soldiers...

I think I got banned from a server for teamkilling on my first day!

[Ap0stacy]

I just stupid punishing. Like once I lobbed a nade under the PAC boat on Camp - everyone knows why - and what happens? Some idiot team mate runs to the boat area and dies by my nade, then punishes me! It's not right, that's why I dislike FF being on, people stupidly punish you for their own mistakes.

Same with the walker, a fag team mate decides to walk under me - he wasn't repairing my walker - I run him over not realising he's actually there and he punishes me, yet I still have the decency to spam 'Sorry man' and revive the tard.

[page2142]

Originally Posted by Ap0stacy

yet I still have the decency to spam 'Sorry man' and revive the tard.

exactly... I hate it when people punish and they just don't have a clue what happened. Even if it WAS my fault but they just press page dwn the moment they get tk'd even though I run like a noob with a death wish to revive them after...

Squad play IS the way... stick together, attack the same co-ordinates, heal/revive is 10 times more important than kill, killing is a bonus and finally don't see it as a race for the gold... if you care more about your teammates it will come naturally.

[Ap0stacy]

I want squad play as well. Can't find many servers which do it though, apart from 'Squadplay', I think GQ. Anyways, is BFB a good clan? I'm really looking to join a decent teamwork clan.

[LutherBlissett]

The clans you have mentioned are quite dreadful, in that they ban fair players without good reason, and fail to ban cheats. I have first hand experience and links to back up BOTH those claims, so don't hesitate to contact me if you want any info in that respect. Timeless is just as bad for the same reason.

They banned me from a server yesterday when I was just playing the game and not breaking a single rule. I asked for the reason for my ban in their forum. They were unable to provide a single reason, and simply banned me from the forum too. With little children like that in charge of servers, you obviously want NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with that lot.

If you want to join a clan where the guys are big into squadplay, then these days Monkey Gamers seem to be clean and really into sticking with their squadmates.

G&A are also a nice lot. There are a few German, French, & Dutch clans with their heads screwed on too.

In this country, ENGLISHclan and 22nd SAS are good too. ...Plus MIA in the states.

I expect there are lots of other good ones out there too. I'm sure plenty more will come to my mind after I post this.

You just have to avoid the brats.

[Ap0stacy]

Wow, cheers. I've barely ever seen an admin on Timeless, LoL.

[LutherBlissett]

These days I think they just come on to ban me, then they go back to fapping in dark rooms.

[litigationexec]

you then get the idiots who run across the road without looking - and punish you because you should have given way to them - fkin noobs - then you get kicked for that