DICE... any news of the 1.51 patch?

[zen_uk187]

With ranked servers being less than 300 as of last week. the community desperately needs the new injection of life that the 1.51 patch would surely bring.

Most of the new maps including the northern strike content is definitely the way forward.

Leave bad company 2 for acouple of weeks so that any final changes can be made to the work in progress 1.51 patch. Once it's finished and released you won't have to worry about providing further support...well maybe a sequel under the frostbite engine

[cirem]

there's a famous song from ozzy osbourne... what's it's name again? ah, yes: dreamer :-)

[Tuxey]

Yep dream on.

[Sir.Talbot]

Game is at rock bottom at the moment.

[Minmaster]

i can only find 1 reasonably populated server of under 100 ping that i can play at... sad.

[VectorRoll]

I may have to chime in just to get my PC fix. BC2 definitely is not filling that PC shooter role for me. It is fun, just does not feel like a true PC Shooter. BF2142 still plays better.
I hope we get some word on the patch soon. I am so ready for it.

[Minmaster]

well you're our liaison, you ought to ask what's going on there?

[zen_uk187]

Could always thread hijack the posts baza replies to in bad company 2

[zen_uk187]

Originally Posted by Minmaster

i can only find 1 reasonably populated server of under 100 ping that i can play at... sad.

3 euro servers which should still be up and running

[RIP] urban assault.... tues-thurs 8-late gmt time

-=NLB=- IO regularly populated

monkey gamers squadplay...regularly populated

titan servers...any of the timeless ones though most seem to just run suez

[Bazajaytee]

zen_uk187 called me over here
So what is happening with BF2142 1.51?

Well as you probably know I own BF2/2142 and now BFBC2 PC which currently needs a lot of TLC to get it up to standard.

That doesn't mean I have forgotten BF2142 v1.51 though. Niklas (the programmer) is with me on BFBC2 as well and is lined up to work on BF2142 once we can leave BFBC2 alone for a while on its own

As some might remember, our build machine HDD also died so Niklas is going to have to rebuild the build scripts for BF2142.

We do have some good content coming in 1.51 too including BF2142 version of Operation Blue Pearl, removal of SecuROM and Safedisc DRM from the exe file and some unmentioned content from Jason Brice who made us Operation Shingle (which he has also fixed the bridge glitch on).

So BF2142 v1.51 is at least a few months out but it is certainly still coming and we haven't forgotten about it.

[Sir.Talbot]

I'm still struggling to understand how roughly 50 regular European players swapped from playing on the European low Ping NS server (C&B) to joining some high ping US NS server (TBG Clan). I for one hate playing with a ping above 90, the delay is far too noticeable.

With my watering hole now gone I'm forced to play Titan, but then again on the bright side at least Titan servers don't crash every 30 minutes.

EDIT: Ha, the Oracle has spoken just as I was typing the above. A few months you say? Lets hope by then the game isn't completely dead with token Camp Gibraltar and Suez Canal 24/7 servers still running - *SHIVERS*

[zen_uk187]

i'm guessing when baza mentioned afew months out, he means the planned release date. Atleast we have some info

[SkankwOn]

Thanks for the news Baza. Wow, quiet in here compared to 'some other BF parts' eh?!

[VectorRoll]

Originally Posted by Minmaster

well you're our liaison, you ought to ask what's going on there?

I do and it has been the same answer as I have reported a few times. They are still trying to get BC2 working, as you can see from what Baza just said. I would rather give you something new than to continue saying the same thing over and over again.

A personal opinion that I may get flamed for:
Things would go a lot faster, but for BC2 people asking for changes then when they change things another crowed complains about them. Then the people argue amounts each other over these changes, which makes getting things in order hectic as they try to weed through the threads. People need to realize that when you change one thing you need to make sure that the change works with everything else, so you have to look at the other things and make changes if needed.
That is what I am seeing with BC2 and the reason I think that we are getting held up here for the BF2142 patch.

Another personal opinion that I might get flamed for:
I personal would like for at least Baza and Niklas to be able to take a break from BC2 to be able to at least build the scripts and mess around with a little bit of BF2142, all while the community in BC2 tries the changes a bit more. I know that I have not even had a chance to mess around with everything yet to see how it balances out. It should take quite a few games to do so. In the meantime the dev's could relax and work on a few other things. Like BF2142, BF1943 for the PC, Competitive Features for BC2, and so on.

Remember though these are just my personal opinions, and may not even be logical ones from the developers point of view. I know that there are some in the community that would not like my view. But I think that we should have a little bit of time to test things, and in the meantime the DEV's could look at others things while we do.

[zen_uk187]

In all fairness, DICE are trying to make bad company 2 playable, but with every tom-lalalala-&-harry complaining about anything & everything they have their work cut out. Trying to appease the masses for bc2 is going to take some time.

If it was upto me i'd ignore the whingers, have 8 dice members log onto bc2 for an hour every day for a week and see what needs changing/fixing them make an assesment on that.

Then release a patch then go back to the 2142 patch

[Minmaster]

few months? sigh...
i bet that turns into many more months...

1 and half year of waiting, it seems more like they are unwilling and unmotivated to fix 2142 seeing as how quickly they are churning out patches for bc2. if they really wanted to, i bet they can produce the patch in similar amount of time it took for these bc2 patches, instead of 1 and half years of taking their sweet time.

request to dice: next time, don't tell us you're working on a patch and make it seem like we're just few months away from it (1.51 patch announcement in the winter of 08). just tell us when it's nearly done so that we don't have to play these waiting games.

[Worksop-Damage]

Yeah and put the movement back on the drop pods so I can get on the roofs again

[Minmaster]

Originally Posted by Splash-Damage

Yeah and put the movement back on the drop pods so I can get on the roofs again

lol funny

[IBRHEEM_Q4_FTW]

FEW MONTHS
ok calm dwon

baza i hope it will be big no one will come back for no dvd fix

why dice always missed up evey time with 2142
god! 2142 is out when dice were still patching 2
and bc1 is out in the after year as 2142 patch
and patch 2 were out before 2142 .our patch belyed cuz of bc2 and the beta now the new game and the new r8

BTW say hi to the niklos ok this guy must be epic

[Minmaster]

i am willing to bet it will be much MORE than few months.
any takers?

oh and baza, does someone really have to call you over here for you to even check the 2142 forums once in a while? i'd wish you'd periodically just drop by to let us know what's going on, even though there hasn't been progress recently. no news is worse than bad news.

[Slarlac249]

Yawn?

[CommandoMcHawk]

could i ask for the bofor or limited scar to be added please

[CommandoMcHawk]

Originally Posted by zen_uk187

In all fairness, DICE are trying to make bad company 2 playable, but with every tom-lalalala-&-harry complaining about anything & everything they have their work cut out. Trying to appease the masses for bc2 is going to take some time.

If it was upto me i'd ignore the whingers, have 8 dice members log onto bc2 for an hour every day for a week and see what needs changing/fixing them make an assesment on that.

Then release a patch then go back to the 2142 patch

Zen lol please dont say things like that lol i want the patch for bf2142

[JustGam3r]

I would like to see it on steam. I pray that 1.51 wont be a last update coz it looks bad. 1.6 looks good.

[BFGPunkbuster]

Originally Posted by VectorRoll

Things would go a lot faster, but for BC2 people asking for changes then when they change things another crowed complains about them.

To cut a long story short: people basically complained about three things:

M60
Noob Tube
Carl Gustav

As you can read at the forums those three fixes might have been enough. Den Kirsons charst made it obvious that the damage values for the M60 were too high and a solution for the other two weapons could have been an exclusion from the ammo boxes. Three nades /guided missles and that's it. The game is still okay but it will definitly loose players if it patched too many times. It's the same thing that happend to Battlefield 2. "Patched to Death"

I might get flamed for this as well but look at the squad hopping decission. You play a game for years(!) and because of some whiners cry about rotating squad it has been patched out of the game without even the chance of making having an option. And it is the same with the weapons. People get used to weapons and if you change too many things they will probably be lalalalaed.

It is so obvious: you have an new thing in your hands and get used to it. And if it is changed completely from one day to another you have not only get used to it again, you also have to break a habit with all the things you learned before.

So the best thing DICE can do is make a final decission on the weapons and vehicles as fast as they can. More patches, Tweaks, Re-Tweaks, and changes WILL result in a loss of players.

Sorry for OT....

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@T: Good to see that BF2142 hasn't been abandoned