Battlefield 2 Nations Cup Conquest Final

[Evil_Black_Fox]

Unless DICE fixes the mechanics of the game exploiting them is perfectly fine even if it is annoying. If they weren’t then cartilery, jihading, C4 jumping, spawn point blocking, spawn raping, bunny hopping, nade spamming, and many similar things such as rolling a chopper to avoid a TV missile would have been removed from this game which is now many years old. To kill bunny hoppers just take your time and aim your weapon. I kill them all the time with just a pistol. It's the players that only jump once then fire that are a problem at times.

[CovertSpecialOp]

Again, nobody's arguing if it's OK or not to exploit the game mechanics. I'm strictly talking about his response about people who can't shoot down bunnyhoppers is because of "failed aim".

Originally Posted by Evil_Black_Fox

Unless DICE fixes the mechanics of the game exploiting them is perfectly fine even if it is annoying. If they weren’t then cartilery, jihading, C4 jumping, spawn point blocking, spawn raping, bunny hopping, nade spamming, and many similar things such as rolling a chopper to avoid a TV missile would have been removed from this game which is now many years old. To kill bunny hoppers just take your time and aim your weapon. I kill them all the time with just a pistol. It's the players that only jump once then fire that are a problem at times.

[Hawk85]

I dont care what you expect tbh. I never made a Bf2 Video and I never gonne do it. Would cost to much time that i dont have. And if I would do you would see me killing bunnyhoppers when my aim is on them and see them going away when i failaim. So again no need to do a video
If it is not failaim what is it than? Pls dont tell me dust. I´ve seen so many people beeing bad in BF2, blaming the reg/dust, moving on to other games and getting roled anyway. But thats ok. There are people better in playing computer than others. But in Bf2 they can blame the dust.

[NwJoolz]

Originally Posted by Hawk85

First off all bunnyhopping doesnt exsist anymore. It was a word used in Version 1.2 for a prone/cruch/jump move where you could lalalala up your hitbox.

Seriously you have no idea...

Bunny hopping - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think you'll find it is (and always has been) a term in general use - use that is in no way specific to any particular iteration of BF2

[rushborn]

Originally Posted by NwJoolz

Seriously you have no idea...

Bunny hopping - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think you'll find it is (and always has been) a term in general use - use that is in no way specific to any particular iteration of BF2

Actually he probably knows more than you do, but hey you play arma2 now joolz? If so thank god one less whiner on BF2.

[CovertSpecialOp]

So whatever you say is true and whatever anybody says that contradicts with what you say is false? Get off your high horse.

We'll agree to disagree. But dust is exactly what it is. My tank got hit, literally hit, by another tank and I felt my tank shake. However, no damage though.

I shot somebody in the head at point blank. All I saw was dust coming out of his head.

So yes, dust it is. If not, can you explain what the dust is for? Special effects? I think not.

I understand it would be too much time...I mean how can you have time when you spend all your time posting videos? Very lame excuse.

Originally Posted by Hawk85

I dont care what you expect tbh. I never made a Bf2 Video and I never gonne do it. Would cost to much time that i dont have. And if I would do you would see me killing bunnyhoppers when my aim is on them and see them going away when i failaim. So again no need to do a video
If it is not failaim what is it than? Pls dont tell me dust. I´ve seen so many people beeing bad in BF2, blaming the reg/dust, moving on to other games and getting roled anyway. But thats ok. There are people better in playing computer than others. But in Bf2 they can blame the dust.

[NwJoolz]

Originally Posted by rushborn

Actually he probably knows more than you do, but hey you play arma2 now joolz? If so thank god one less whiner on BF2.

Whine? Moi?

Also - I play both...

[Hawk85]

Yes you are right dust is a special effect in Bf2. There are 2 hitindecators. The first hitindicator is the crosshair it changes when the hit got registerd on the server. The 2nd one is dust. Its a clientside indicator. So if you get dust it means you hit the guy but if you dont get the changeing cosshair it means the shot dont get registerd on the server.
And if you would have eaven klicked my like than you would have seen that i dont post videos. I post links of livestreams that i do. And yes thats stuff i spend my time on.Its more fun and it makes more sence cause to prove that its possible to shote someone jumping in Bf2 there are lots of videos allready. Use google m8. You gonne findsomething im sure. If you dont know how to use it just write me pm. Im gonne give you a turorial.

@ NwJoolz wow you fond something in Wikipedia. Nice one m8. I think im gonne change the article so people like you dont get confused like you are now. This was obiesly written by someone who has no idea of BF2 maybe it eaven was you?

@Forum admin. I started this thead to give some infromations about a livestream of a Bf2 game. Now its about dust. Pls close!
Thx

[NwJoolz]

Originally Posted by Hawk85

@ NwJoolz wow you fond something in Wikipedia. Nice one m8. I think im gonne change the article so people like you dont get confused like you are now. This was obiesly written by someone who has no idea of BF2 maybe it eaven was you?

lol@u

found obviously even

Perhaps I should quote online dictionaries and encyclopaedias to you more often?

[CovertSpecialOp]

Sorry, but reading your posts are painful. If not for your lame and moot arguments, it's your incredible lack of grammar. Word of advice, run your posts through a spell check before posting.

Are you one of the commentators in the live stream videos? Because I find the commentators more silly than informative while watching the games. That's not necessarily a bad thing, it's entertaining to hear the embarrassingly silly things they utter. And I find the same silliness in you right now.

Originally Posted by Hawk85

Yes you are right dust is a special effect in Bf2. There are 2 hitindecators. The first hitindicator is the crosshair it changes when the hit got registerd on the server. The 2nd one is dust. Its a clientside indicator. So if you get dust it means you hit the guy but if you dont get the changeing cosshair it means the shot dont get registerd on the server.
And if you would have eaven klicked my like than you would have seen that i dont post videos. I post links of livestreams that i do. And yes thats stuff i spend my time on.Its more fun and it makes more sence cause to prove that its possible to shote someone jumping in Bf2 there are lots of videos allready. Use google m8. You gonne findsomething im sure. If you dont know how to use it just write me pm. Im gonne give you a turorial.

@ NwJoolz wow you fond something in Wikipedia. Nice one m8. I think im gonne change the article so people like you dont get confused like you are now. This was obiesly written by someone who has no idea of BF2 maybe it eaven was you?

@Forum admin. I started this thead to give some infromations about a livestream of a Bf2 game. Now its about dust. Pls close!
Thx

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[rushborn]

Originally Posted by CovertSpecialOp

Sorry, but reading your posts are painful. If not for your lame and moot arguments, it's your incredible lack of grammar. Word of advice, run your posts through a spell check before posting.

Are you one of the commentators in the live stream videos? Because I find the commentators more silly than informative while watching the games. That's not necessarily a bad thing, it's entertaining to hear the embarrassingly silly things they utter. And I find the same silliness in you right now.

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Silly haha forgive them for trying to add a little comedy value to the stream, plenty of people like streams as they are now. If you don't like then don't watch them pretty simple, just from your posts on these forums I can tell you are one of peoples that complains about every little thing, am I right?
I mean commenting on someones grammar when English is not even their first language, oh my someone from another country misspelled some words on an internet forum.
Seriously grow up!
/ End of rant

[NLsandman]

There must be a lack of arguments when complaining in a discussion about some ones grammar.
I would like to see them translate this txt of mine in my native language, dutch.
I like your streams and in game commentary, the kind of commentary makes the game exciting to me.
So keep up the good work!

[mayhemUK]

Originally Posted by CovertSpecialOp

Again, nobody's arguing if it's OK or not to exploit the game mechanics. I'm strictly talking about his response about people who can't shoot down bunnyhoppers is because of "failed aim".

I think you'll find that's the default argument you will get from all the bunny hoppers when talking about the subject on this forum But like you, or I, & anyone else with a brain knows, it's got nout to do with so called "failed aim".

[rushborn]

Originally Posted by mayhemUK

I think you'll find that's the default argument you will get from all the bunny hoppers when talking about the subject on this forum But like you, or I, & anyone else with a brain knows, it's got nout to do with so called "failed aim".

Fine using that argument, but how likely would people admit they fail aim? I would bet not many would, and even so at the end of the day its just an excuse.

[NwJoolz]

Yawn...

[CovertSpecialOp]

Sin

Originally Posted by rushborn

Silly haha forgive them for trying to add a little comedy value to the stream, plenty of people like streams as they are now. If you don't like then don't watch them pretty simple

I don't watch it for the commentaries. And I was not referring to their "comedic relief" (I must have a different sense of humor), I truly think some of the things they say are literally silly (e.g. ridiculous). I follow the Swedish team. Thank god there is a mute button available...which I do use.

Originally Posted by rushborn

just from your posts on these forums I can tell you are one of peoples that complains about every little thing, am I right?

Since you follow my posts so closely, why are you asking me? And why don't you go ahead and name them too when you're on it.

FYI since you clearly did not follow my posts in this thread, I was pointing out the obvious - players were bunny hopping in that recorded game. I merely mentioned that and that game mechanics was being abused. I did not expect it from a competitive scene and made a note of it.

Hawk then switched the topic and called us out saying we have "failed aim". And we were then debating about the "failed aim". So if I'm whining...then it's better than you coming in and whining about other people whining.

It seems that's all you do. First you whine about Joolz whining, then you whine about me whining.

Talk about being a hypocrite LOL.

Originally Posted by rushborn

I mean commenting on someones grammar when English is not even their first language, oh my someone from another country misspelled some words on an internet forum.
Seriously grow up!
/ End of rant

What can I say, I live in a free country with free speech. English isn't my first language either (it's my third). I merely pointed out that his posts were becoming painful to read so I told him to run his posts through a spell checker. While it might have come off as condescending I'm still serious about it.

And please do explain the correlation between being immature and pointing out someone's grammar on a forum? I really don't see the connection. If you want to tell me to grow up, give a valid reason. What you've stated is not

[CovertSpecialOp]

Fine using that argument, but how likely would people admit they fail aim? I would bet not many would, and even so at the end of the day its just an excuse.

Rushborn do you have a point? Or do you just enjoy presenting hypothetical and circumstantial arguments? You have yet to contribute an actual point backed up by facts or at least an argument. Since we were going to move on and away from this topic, 'til you opened up your mouth again, I now ask you to post a video of yourself blasting away bunny hoppers, something that Hawk wasn't committed to doing in order to defend his silly argument.

When can I expect the video?

[NLsandman]

Explain to me why you only complain about grammar when some one doesn't agree with you, there are others in this thread and other threads where English is their native language but I don't see any reaction regarding to their spell problems.
My opinion is that when some one runs out of arguments they start bashing about grammar, they are trying to ruin a discussion or to lead the discussion of their original points.
I also must say that you have success in doing this because the hole discussion is not on topic any more.

[CovertSpecialOp]

LOL. Long and behold. Read this carefully so you don't just try to chime in trying to bash me on pointing out someone's grammar.

By the way, by your definition, it seems like you have nothing to contribute to this debate other than confronting me for pointing out someone's grammar.

Here we go. Ready? He did not present any new arguments. In fact he agreed to what I was arguing about. But clearly you must've missed it since you're more concerned about me pointing out his grammar lol.

"So if you get dust it means you hit the guy but if you dont get the changeing cosshair it means the shot dont get registerd on the server"

That's his word from his last post. Does that NOT mean he's saying dust is due to failed HIT-REG?? And NOT due to failed AIM??

That was my entire argument regarding his statement of people having bad aim, or "failed aim" as opposed to bad hit reg and making it even more difficult to shoot at bunny hoppers.

AGAIN, I'm not complaining about bunny hoppers. I've stated in several threads that I bunny hop out of certain situations when necessary...it's only natural.

AND AGAIN, all of this was brought up because I made a general observation stating that I see a lot of bunny hopping and abuse of other game mechanics (in the recorded game). This is when Hawks chimed in and called us a bunch of bad aimers.

And NLsandman, if you even paid an ounce of attention to the posts you would've seen that Hawks already butted out from the debate and asked the forum admin to close this thread:

"I started this thead to give some infromations about a livestream of a Bf2 game. Now its about dust. Pls close!
Thx"

So hate to burst your little bubble you live in, but there was NO more on going debate, my follow up post was not a counter argument

Originally Posted by NLsandman

Explain to me why you only complain about grammar when some one doesn't agree with you, there are others in this thread and other threads where English is their native language but I don't see any reaction regarding to their spell problems.
My opinion is that when some one runs out of arguments they start bashing about grammar, they are trying to ruin a discussion or to lead the discussion of their original points.
I also must say that you have success in doing this because the hole discussion is not on topic any more.

[NLsandman]

So hate to burst your little bubble you live in, but there was NO more on going debate, my follow up post was not a counter argument

Ok, It could have saved you a lot of writing, the above was the only thing I had a question about.

About contributing, you started bashing, I only continued it.

[Evil_Black_Fox]

Im not a grammar teacher, but some of us here could benefit from copying and pasting to and from a MS Word doc before posting an incomplete thought. It is difficult to decrypt some of what is being posted here.

[CovertSpecialOp]

mmmm, no i think it was absolutely necessary to write all that because of your previous post and since you have a tendency to assume by not thoroughly reading all the posts pertaining to the debate/discussion on hand. besides it was also meant to be read by rushborn since both of you apparently have the same bad habit.

well nice try with the attempted bashing. next time take your time and do some research and get your facts straight.

Originally Posted by NLsandman

Ok, It could have saved you a lot of writing, the above was the only thing I had a question about.

About contributing, you started bashing, I only continued it.

[NLsandman]

Could it be that when I'm not arguing your arguments that I maybe could agree with your opinion?

"Do not try to bend the spoon — that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth: there is no spoon"

[Hawk85]

So you guys say its not failaim? Than show me your proaim videos where you aim is ON the person and you only get dust while he is jumping. I want to see a video now. Waiting for your excuses.

[CovertSpecialOp]

Hawk. There are plenty of videos on youtube showing this. It's been proven. You said it in your own words dust is an "SFX" that occurs when a hit doesn't register. Do you not understand your own arguments (wouldn't surprise me the least if that's the case).

Nobody has yet called themselves "proaim". We're saying that hit reg is already bad. Bunny hopping will make it even more difficult than what it is. Now keep in mind, nobody's arguing whether bunny hopping should be allowed or not. We're talking about hig regs. My stance is that it's bad. Your stance is that it's not...yet you say it occurs. I think you should stop talking so you don't confuse yourself too much. It's painful. I rather see you confused while commentating on those bf2 recorded games.

Originally Posted by Hawk85

So you guys say its not failaim? Than show me your proaim videos where you aim is ON the person and you only get dust while he is jumping. I want to see a video now. Waiting for your excuses.