Questions raised regarding Update 1.50

Bazajaytee · 27-08-2009, 12:46 PM

A few questions have come up on the announcement so here we go (I'll update this as we go)...

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8934b wrote:
August 27, 2009 04:27 AM
I see release dates for UK/Europe. What about NA?

North America will be Tuesday 1st September also but adjusted for time zone differences. So at around 9am Pacific.

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Rikupsoni wrote:
August 27, 2009 04:11 AM
Great news that the booster packs will be free. But why there won't be a full 1.5 patch, only incremental as you say 1.41 will be needed? First 540 MB 1.41 and then over 2 Gb 1.5.
A full version would be a lot handier.

A full installer wasn't made to get Battlefield 2 v1.0 up to v1.50 due to a change in how updates were made between DICE Canada and DICE Sweden. We could have made one large update but it would have been almost the same size as the game install itself. To solve compatibility issues it was decided to have players update to version 1.41 (or have Battlefield 2 Complete Collection installed from EADM) before running Update v1.50.

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Originally Posted by Mujka

if something go wrong

u gonna fix it ?

+is final working smoother then beta maybe ?

Yes and yes

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Originally Posted by Tiuri20000

Baza, its up to the ranked server providers to update their servers, do you expect there will be a drop in available 1.41 servers before 1.50 will be made public?

If so, for how long do you expect it to last?

Battlefield 2 v1.41 servers will run up to and including Tuesday when the update launches. You may see a drop in server numbers for a couple of hours before the client is released as they switch over server versions. I don't see a big drop, if any, before that time though.

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Originally Posted by Dr_kuh

Will the no DVD patch be delivered as an extra addon or will we never see this?

It is part of Update 1.50. There is no extra patch or file needed.

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Originally Posted by bestP_in_UNIVERS

Will the hitreg will be really improved or for that year not many time was spent regarding this issue ?

All I will say is that Hit reg has been improved. We have a lot more happening than Counter Strike (64 players and vehicles for a start

) so it might not be pin point but its it better than it was.

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Originally Posted by arn354

Have you removed the notorious registration of the boosters to one account?
Is it now just installing patch 1.5 and then play them?

Install the patch and any account that can play Battlefield 2 can play the Booster Pack maps. No need to link your BF2 soldier to EA.

Mujka · 27-08-2009, 12:49 PM

if something go wrong

u gonna fix it ?

+is final working smoother then beta maybe ?

Tiuri20000 · 27-08-2009, 12:51 PM

Baza, its up to the ranked server providers to update their servers, do you expect there will be a drop in available 1.41 servers before 1.50 will be made public?

If so, for how long do you expect it to last?

mygot_manoel · 27-08-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiuri20000

Baza, its up to the ranked server providers to update their servers, do you expect there will be a drop in available 1.41 servers before 1.50 will be made public?

If so, for how long do you expect it to last?

Ranked servers have a tight deadline to update whenever it becomes available.

Nevvermind · 27-08-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mujka

if something go wrong

u gonna fix it ?

+is final working smoother then beta maybe ?

He already has written something about that:

" Its never a good idea to launch an update at the end of the week. If anything did go wrong *touch wood that it doesn't* then having an early week launch allows us time to get it sorted."

Dr_kuh · 27-08-2009, 01:36 PM

Will the no DVD patch be delivered as an extra addon or will we never see this?

GarryGanja · 27-08-2009, 01:51 PM

I Have complete collection, can i just do a full reinstall with sf boosters and 1.41 ,and then teusday do the 1.5 with boosters over it?

Do people who don't have the boosters but get them teusday also have to register like the people who have the boosters allready and needed to register?

Was there weapons from the boosters which turned up as special unlock when you promoted,and so yes what will happen if you now get the boosters and are allready so far you don't get no promotion unlocks anymore.

Is it gonna be a problem for map rotation that great wall has 32 players as max(never played it on a full server(asked this allready in another topic)

globefish23 · 27-08-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GarryGanja

I Have complete collection, can i just do a full reinstall with sf boosters and 1.41 ,and then teusday do the 1.5 with boosters over it?

Yes, that should work.
IIRC, the retail Complete Collection on DVD is only pre-patched to 1.40, so you have to apply the 1.41 patch afterwards.
The EADM version is already patched to 1.41.

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Originally Posted by GarryGanja

Do people who don't have the boosters but get them teusday also have to register like the people who have the boosters allready and needed to register?

My guess is, that they don't need to do that any more.

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Originally Posted by GarryGanja

Was there weapons from the boosters which turned up as special unlock when you promoted,and so yes what will happen if you now get the boosters and are allready so far you don't get no promotion unlocks anymore.

The 2nd tier unlocks for sniper and antitank actually are the EU weapons, but they can be achieved by everyone.
So, no, there's no unlocks or anything from the boosters.

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Originally Posted by GarryGanja

Is it gonna be a problem for map rotation that great wall has 32 players as max(never played it on a full server(asked this allready in another topic)

No.
You can play with 64 players on the 32 size.
Actually, the 64 size is not much larger than the 32 size for the EF maps.
On Great Wall and Taraba Quarry, the removed 64 size flags are very near to the redline.
On Smoke Screen seemingly all of the available terrain and buildings are used.

And on Road Rage (AF map) the 32 and 64 are completely the same size, only with different vehicle counts spawning.

GarryGanja · 27-08-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by globefish23

Yes, that should work.
IIRC, the retail Complete Collection on DVD is only pre-patched to 1.40, so you have to apply the 1.41 patch afterwards.
The EADM version is already patched to 1.41.

My guess is, that they don't need to do that any more.

The 2nd tier unlocks for sniper and antitank actually are the EU weapons, but they can be achieved by everyone.
So, no, there's no unlocks or anything from the boosters.

No.
You can play with 64 players on the 32 size.
Actually, the 64 size is not much larger than the 32 size for the EF maps.
On Great Wall and Taraba Quarry, the removed 64 size flags are very near to the redline.
On Smoke Screen seemingly all of the available terrain and buildings are used.

And on Road Rage (AF map) the 32 and 64 are completely the same size, only with different vehicle counts spawning.

Thanks Bazaa.....................euhhhhhhhhh globefish23,haha thanks man.

Insanityyyy · 27-08-2009, 02:31 PM

I supose that all the weapons and vehicles are included just on these maps?

DakotaDoc64 · 27-08-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiuri20000

Baza, its up to the ranked server providers to update their servers, do you expect there will be a drop in available 1.41 servers before 1.50 will be made public?

If so, for how long do you expect it to last?

As the Server Admin for LegionAtWar.com I would expect the server outage to be about 2 hours tops. We/I manage and host 5 Ranked BF2 servers, and 3 Ranked AIXS.

DakotaDoc64 · 27-08-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GarryGanja

Is it gonna be a problem for map rotation that great wall has 32 players as max(never played it on a full server(asked this allready in another topic)

Great wall and other maps do have 64 slot versions. However on Great Wall the only difference is the ticket ratio. The map does not change, unless the 1.5 update changes that also. You will notice that Great Wall has Heli pads, but no helicopters.

Bazajaytee · 27-08-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by globefish23

Yes, that should work.
IIRC, the retail Complete Collection on DVD is only pre-patched to 1.40, so you have to apply the 1.41 patch afterwards.
The EADM version is already patched to 1.41.

My guess is, that they don't need to do that any more.

The 2nd tier unlocks for sniper and antitank actually are the EU weapons, but they can be achieved by everyone.
So, no, there's no unlocks or anything from the boosters.

No.
You can play with 64 players on the 32 size.
Actually, the 64 size is not much larger than the 32 size for the EF maps.
On Great Wall and Taraba Quarry, the removed 64 size flags are very near to the redline.
On Smoke Screen seemingly all of the available terrain and buildings are used.

And on Road Rage (AF map) the 32 and 64 are completely the same size, only with different vehicle counts spawning.

Spot on with every answer

jakkes · 27-08-2009, 02:49 PM

Every map in EF/AF has a 16/32/64 map version.
But all sizes isn't in the game.
For example, Great Walls 64 size version should have had Helipads, that's why you can find them outside the battle area on the 32 size version but aren't in use. You can also find the helipads are in small villages and that roads are going to them from the uncaps in the 32 size version.

GarryGanja · 27-08-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DakotaDoc64

Great wall and other maps do have 64 slot versions. However on Great Wall the only difference is the ticket ratio. The map does not change, unless the 1.5 update changes that also. You will notice that Great Wall has Heli pads, but no helicopters.

Well i played the map,memories enough,mostly that first time it took me a while to really find the entrance to get "in" the wall,and i got so much "lost"in this map running around in circles.But never played it with very much people and now finaly will be able to,Always was very hard to ever get through the gate with a tank or apc,without getting blown up,can imagine that will be even more stressfull with 32 opponents

jakkes · 27-08-2009, 02:52 PM

Great Wall is a great map when you know it...

GarryGanja · 27-08-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bazajaytee

Spot on with every answer

What is the difference between IIRC and EADM version.

Insanityyyy · 27-08-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bazajaytee

Spot on with every answer

I hope that we will be able to use the weapons and vehicles included in EF & AF on the those maps.

Bazajaytee · 27-08-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GarryGanja

What is the difference between IIRC and EADM version.

One is If I Remember Correctly and one is EA Download Manager

Nah, he was talking about Battlefield 2 Complete Collection on DVD and the one you can buy from EA Store.

The EA Store one is a LOT better than the DVD version which is a nightmare to install and is only up to version 1.40 so you would need to install 1.41 first and then 1.50. The EA Store version is one clean install and is version 1.41 ready to update with 1.50.

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Originally Posted by Insanityyyy

I hope that we will be able to use the weapons and vehicles included in EF & AF on the those maps.

A lot of the content is limited to just those maps as they are "European" weapons and vehicles. So they never appear in the other maps.

bestP_in_UNIVERS · 27-08-2009, 03:17 PM

Dear DICE members,

first of all - thanks for your hard job you have left for this patch. I have one question (sorry, can't wait till first of September). How good will be the hit registration ? Will we see the dust again ? Or maybe you have fixed this once and forever and box is know like in Counter Srike games ?

Will the hitreg will be really improved or for that year not many time was spent regarding this issue ?

Thank you for your answer in advance

arn354 · 27-08-2009, 03:19 PM

Have you removed the notorious registration of the boosters to one account?
Is it now just installing patch 1.5 and then play them?

globefish23 · 27-08-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bazajaytee

The EA Store version is one clean install and is version 1.41 ready to update with 1.50.

Will the EA Store version get updated to 1.50 for a future re-download?

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Originally Posted by arn354

Have you removed the notorious registration of the boosters to one account?
Is it now just installing patch 1.5 and then play them?

See this post where Baza confirmed my spot-on speculation:
Questions raised regarding Update 1.50

Murjuk · 27-08-2009, 03:42 PM

Will there be a downloadable "1 executable only" BF2 game with patch 1.5? For online customers? And if so, can we download it as old customers?

JGrasli · 27-08-2009, 04:01 PM

As posted in another thread, why wasn't the no CD/DVD-fix mentioned in the news today? It looked like you forgot it..

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Originally Posted by GarryGanja

What is the difference between IIRC and EADM version.

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Originally Posted by Bazajaytee

One is If I Remember Correctly and one is EA Download Manager

LOL..

OeterB · 27-08-2009, 04:19 PM

This is awesome news. So happy --- can't wait for next week!

One question --- for those who have the boosters/Complete DVD collection, will there be an option to download a smaller file for the patch? You know, one with the booster pack maps, and one without since we already have it? I'd guess not, just to ensure everyone installs them...

So, since I assume there won't be, how would one install it... install if on a fresh install of BF2 Patch 1.41 only, and don't install the booster packs before hand to allow 1.5 to install said maps?

27-08-2009, 03:17 PM	#20 (permalink)
bestP_in_UNIVERS Hi, I'm New! Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1	Dear DICE members, first of all - thanks for your hard job you have left for this patch. I have one question (sorry, can't wait till first of September). How good will be the hit registration ? Will we see the dust again ? Or maybe you have fixed this once and forever and box is know like in Counter Srike games ? Will the hitreg will be really improved or for that year not many time was spent regarding this issue ? Thank you for your answer in advance Last edited by bestP_in_UNIVERS; 27-08-2009 at 03:20 PM..

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Murjuk Rookie Join Date: May 2009 Location: Anatolia / TR Age: 25 Gender: Male Posts: 241	Will there be a downloadable "1 executable only" BF2 game with patch 1.5? For online customers? And if so, can we download it as old customers? __________________ All that appears will turn to dust, like every soul shall rise

27-08-2009, 12:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mujka Rookie Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 53	if something go wrong u gonna fix it ? +is final working smoother then beta maybe ?

27-08-2009, 12:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tiuri20000 Rookie Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 127	Baza, its up to the ranked server providers to update their servers, do you expect there will be a drop in available 1.41 servers before 1.50 will be made public? If so, for how long do you expect it to last?

27-08-2009, 01:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
Dr_kuh Rookie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: No-speedlimit-country Age: 25 Gender: Male Posts: 252	Will the no DVD patch be delivered as an extra addon or will we never see this?

27-08-2009, 01:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
GarryGanja Rookie Join Date: May 2009 Location: VegheLL,Netherlands Gender: Male Posts: 435	I Have complete collection, can i just do a full reinstall with sf boosters and 1.41 ,and then teusday do the 1.5 with boosters over it? Do people who don't have the boosters but get them teusday also have to register like the people who have the boosters allready and needed to register? Was there weapons from the boosters which turned up as special unlock when you promoted,and so yes what will happen if you now get the boosters and are allready so far you don't get no promotion unlocks anymore. Is it gonna be a problem for map rotation that great wall has 32 players as max(never played it on a full server(asked this allready in another topic)

27-08-2009, 02:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
Insanityyyy Forum Guru Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Skellefteå, Sweden Gender: Male Posts: 1,032	I supose that all the weapons and vehicles are included just on these maps?

27-08-2009, 02:49 PM	#14 (permalink)
jakkes Rookie Join Date: May 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Gender: Male Posts: 33	Every map in EF/AF has a 16/32/64 map version. But all sizes isn't in the game. For example, Great Walls 64 size version should have had Helipads, that's why you can find them outside the battle area on the 32 size version but aren't in use. You can also find the helipads are in small villages and that roads are going to them from the uncaps in the 32 size version.

27-08-2009, 02:52 PM	#16 (permalink)
jakkes Rookie Join Date: May 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Gender: Male Posts: 33	Great Wall is a great map when you know it...

27-08-2009, 04:19 PM	#25 (permalink)
OeterB Rookie Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 12	This is awesome news. So happy --- can't wait for next week! One question --- for those who have the boosters/Complete DVD collection, will there be an option to download a smaller file for the patch? You know, one with the booster pack maps, and one without since we already have it? I'd guess not, just to ensure everyone installs them... So, since I assume there won't be, how would one install it... install if on a fresh install of BF2 Patch 1.41 only, and don't install the booster packs before hand to allow 1.5 to install said maps?