Questions raised regarding Update 1.50

[lillsneppe]

Originally Posted by Beteh

Doesnt matter if it is official, it is the right patch and it will have awesome speed.

This^

[Bazajaytee]

Originally Posted by MysticalWhim

BAZA,

At one time EA to curb the stat modded servers, put a scoring limit in place for servers. Please tell me that something else was done to get rid of that trash and the scoring limits were lifted. I run my server on Sharqi I/O sometimes with 64 count size and we will have like 8-10 people in playing and there are usually folks scoring over 300 points. Can you give us clarification on how 1.5 handles this or wethier scoring limits are still in place? Thanks!

MW

The limit is GameSpy based and we can increase/decrease it as much as we want and when we want. 1.50 does include some changes but we need to see if they have worked before lifting/increasing any kind of limits. We will keep monitoring the servers and see if things change and work from there.

[sid6dot5]

Will you also release the public 1.5 dedicated server files/installer today?
Windows and Linux version.

[EastCoastSnipa8U]

Originally Posted by EastCoastSnipa8U

So...what's the deal with the booster packs? Will server admins be able to put any map into their rotation? Will all maps be available (ie: none that are red) under vanilla BF2's server browser, under one executable?

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Originally Posted by GarryGanja

Well as Sf is seen as another mod and the booster are expansions to BF2(and now seen as vanilla bf2) it is like it supose to be,can't have SF in rotation cause switching from BF2 to SF wil loose you alot of players on the server as people who do not have SF wil be kicked.So great the way it is..............or gonna be!!!

Originally Posted by GarryGanja

@EastCoastSnipa8U

...but to me it is the same question as why COD4 and WAW can't be played in the same rotation,cause engine wise it is also the same game.But just as BF2 and BF2 SF it just can't happen cause they been seen as different games,if you start up SF you start up a different game if you wanna play the boosters they are in the vanilla bf2,can't see it another way cause that is just the way it is.........

Originally Posted by NwJoolz

...AF and EF maps can't be included in SF (or vice versa) and I'll try explaining it again...

Technically possible but prohibitively expensive would be a major re-write of the core bf2 game - probably resulting in a 4Gb patch that no sane company would sanction for an almost five year old game....

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After these individuals did all this unnecessary arguing the final verdict on this issue is as follows:

I don't have Special Forces but if I click a Special Forces server the game CTD's. What is wrong?
Nothing is wrong. As Battlefield 2 and Special Forces run seperately, clicking on a Special Forces server in the browser list will close Battlefield 2 as part of the change process. If you do not have Special Forces the game will keep you on the desktop as Special Forces isn't present to load.
So do not click Special Forces servers if you do not have it (servers have a GREEN number 2 next to them in the server browser), if you do and you go back to desktop just load BF2 again.

So apparently you cannot add SF to the map rotation. Hopefully there will be no red server listings (unless I missed something). The user has to make sure they have SF installed or they will be kicked to Desktop. Which is what I was trying to find out from the get go
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[markcjuk]

What are the 'Additional support for Windows Vista' fixes?

Since moving to Vista 64 bit I have never been able to get in game VOIP working with my Creative X-Fi card (although it works fine in 2142), can I expect this to work now?

[buard4vrhc4odd]

BAZA please answer my post.

You claim hit reg is improved. Does this mean all bullets will hit the target??
Not talking about hitboxes here.

[Frankelstner]

Originally Posted by EastCoastSnipa8U

So apparently you can add SF to the map rotation.

Stop trolling dude. A dozen people explained to you that SF is handled like a mod, and servers can't handle more than one mod at once. If you just spent one minute running the dedicated server launcher in your battlefield folder you'd have found out that you can have either vanilla maps or SF maps in the rotation. Instead you write posts and posts and ignore just everything people reply. If you could add SF to the map rotation there would already be servers with both SF and vanilla, but there are none.

[Forss]

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[Bazajaytee]

Originally Posted by buard4vrhc4odd

BAZA please answer my post.

You claim hit reg is improved. Does this mean all bullets will hit the target??
Not talking about hitboxes here.

Hit boxes more accurately represent where you see the target being. i.e. model and hit box match.

Originally Posted by markcjuk

What are the 'Additional support for Windows Vista' fixes?

Since moving to Vista 64 bit I have never been able to get in game VOIP working with my Creative X-Fi card (although it works fine in 2142), can I expect this to work now?

Last I heard that was with Creative drivers causing issues for some unknown reason with BF2 and Vista.

[EastCoastSnipa8U]

Originally Posted by Frankelstner

Stop trolling dude. A dozen people explained to you that SF is handled like a mod, and servers can't handle more than one mod at once. If you just spent one minute running the dedicated server launcher in your battlefield folder you'd have found out that you can have either vanilla maps or SF maps in the rotation. Instead you write posts and posts and ignore just everything people reply. If you could add SF to the map rotation there would already be servers with both SF and vanilla, but there are none.

It's not trolling to ask a question in hopes that it will be answered. It is trolling when replies like this are received. Specially when the final answer is placed in the sticky notes linked earlier which says something different.

[Bazajaytee]

Special Forces can't run in rotation with Battlefield 2. They use different renderers.
However Euro Force and Armored Fury can run in rotation with Battlefield 2 maps.

[Frankelstner]

Originally Posted by EastCoastSnipa8U

It's not trolling to ask a question in hopes that it will be answered. It is trolling when replies like this are received. Specially when the final answer is placed in the sticky notes linked earlier which says something different.

When you ask a question over and over again saying that all these replies did not answer your question even though they actually were the answer, then you're absolutely provoking this kind of reaction. And therefore, a troll.

A dozen people tell you: No you cannot combine SF and vanilla maps. You ignore them and even misinterpret that answer in the sticky notes.

[buard4vrhc4odd]

Originally Posted by Bazajaytee

Hit boxes more accurately represent where you see the target being. i.e. model and hit box match.

Oh my goodness, that has nothing to do with hit reg.

[EastCoastSnipa8U]

Originally Posted by Bazajaytee

Special Forces can't run in rotation with Battlefield 2. They use different renderers.
However Euro Force and Armored Fury can run in rotation with Battlefield 2 maps.

Gotcha, so the end user will still be able to pick either or regardless though. No, SF cannot be added to the rotation but it appears that users will still be able to select SF maps. Albiet it will cause them to exit BF2 and start SF. Thanks Baz...

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Originally Posted by Frankelstner

When you ask a question over and over again saying that all these replies did not answer your question even though they actually were the answer, then you're absolutely provoking this kind of reaction. And therefore, a troll.

A dozen people tell you: No you cannot combine SF and vanilla maps. You ignore them and even misinterpret that answer in the sticky notes.

Perhaps in the future you could articulate yourself without having to argue. Maybe I will acknowledge your posts in the future. Asking for clarity is not trolling. However ad hominem replies and reply with eristic intent are. Specially when you imply that you think you have a right to do so. So there is no need to troll my posts with a specious replies when all I've done is attempt to get an understanding of the question I've asked.
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[MysticalWhim]

Originally Posted by Bazajaytee

The limit is GameSpy based and we can increase/decrease it as much as we want and when we want. 1.50 does include some changes but we need to see if they have worked before lifting/increasing any kind of limits. We will keep monitoring the servers and see if things change and work from there.

Baza,

Thank you for your response, and I apperciate you guys tackling this. Could you verify what the score limit is? And if one person gets higher than the limit is it true that everyone on the server wont get there points or awards in that round? I just dont want to spend a hour in a game and somebody go over the limit and I dont get any points. I rather leave before the limit and not hurt everyone in the server. Its a tough situation for you guys trying to get rid of the problems servers and its tough for us as we hate not to get the points we earn. Thanks again for your help.

MW

[davidsimmonsnm]

we need step by step instructions

[AcidrainOPG]

Originally Posted by davidsimmonsnm

we need step by step instructions

Hey, if you check the link in my sig area it has the instructions on the install order.

[FINkilla]

Originally Posted by davidsimmonsnm

we need step by step instructions

Don't install Beta. There's a final already out.

Install it in same way as 1.41... just run the patch...
Install order:

• BF 2
• SF (if you have it)
• 1.41
• 1.50

Then remember to update PB client. PBsetup

[Forces(UK)]

Originally Posted by Bazajaytee

You might find BF2 1.50 is a lot better than the old BF2, especially if you are used to BF2142 now.

Ooh, you know how to wet my appetite...

[FrankCastleITA]

Originally Posted by Bazajaytee

Special Forces can't run in rotation with Battlefield 2. They use different renderers.
However Euro Force and Armored Fury can run in rotation with Battlefield 2 maps.

Baza, I fixed ALT+TAB bug:
ALT-TAB bug FIX from community!!!

Leave your comment.

[PulsatingQuasar]

One big missed opportunity is equaling ground to air.

Choppers and planes have way too much power. Really, if a plane or a chopper can destroy tanks and anti air in one go then anti air should also be able to do that. Please change that because the overhand they have now is rediculous.

Either anti air can destroy planes and choppers in one go or a plane and chopper can not destroy tanks and anti air in one go.

This really is very frustrating because it completely kills the balance in the game up to the point you can only sit and watch while you loose because you can't move an inch in a ground vehicle without get slammed in one go!! Sometimes even without the tell tale beep and if you hear it you can't run away fast enough.


What also would be a great solution is too modify the anti tank guy to also be an anti air guy. It would balance the game more.

[Speedforce]

Originally Posted by PulsatingQuasar

One big missed opportunity is equaling ground to air.

Choppers and planes have way too much power. Really, if a plane or a chopper can destroy tanks and anti air in one go then anti air should also be able to do that. Please change that because the overhand they have now is rediculous.

Either anti air can destroy planes and choppers in one go or a plane and chopper can not destroy tanks and anti air in one go.

This really is very frustrating because it completely kills the balance in the game up to the point you can only sit and watch while you loose because you can't move an inch in a ground vehicle without get slammed in one go!! Sometimes even without the tell tale beep and if you hear it you can't run away fast enough.


What also would be a great solution is too modify the anti tank guy to also be an anti air guy. It would balance the game more.

I totally agree

[globefish23]

Originally Posted by PulsatingQuasar

One big missed opportunity is equaling ground to air.

Agreed.
Maybe it shouldn't kill the ground vehicle, but reduce it to 5% health state, where it's burning, shortly before exploding.
Enough time to allow an engineer to get out and repair it.

After all, they did the same with the sniper rifles.
They should be lethal anywhere on the torso (not only the head), but right now they leave your enemy with 2 strips of health.

Originally Posted by PulsatingQuasar

What also would be a great solution is too modify the anti tank guy to also be an anti air guy. It would balance the game more.

Yes, they did that in BF2142, where the class at first only has AT weapons, but can get an AA unlock later.

Actually, I think that adding infantry AA capabilities could single-handedly solve this problem.
Probably even turn around the favor, with aircraft getting dropped like flies, because infantry isn't visible on the HUD.

[noclanpls]

About falcon settings, if i set recoil force on 0 then the weapon will be more accurate??
will it be the same for choppers , planes and other weapons??
and if damage settongs are at 2.0 will it give more dmg??
thank for help!

[R4Y4N]

hello baza

i like to thank you guys for this patch but still don't you think it's unfair that when i play as a medic and i press Z my aim goes nutts

but when a support kit press Z he gets a small aim just like 1.4 ( and with a better hitbox ) and he need like 4 shots ?

so can you guys bring the 1.4 Z back ?

and in real life if anyone got on the ground like when you press Z

he gets better with shots


and about the bugs and glitchs

there are bugs and glitchs that you don't need a C4 or chopper or any kind of kits

just like the rock in road to jalabad

and bugs just like the zombies and shooting while reloading

why didn't you guys fix it ?

atlast i just want to say thank you guys you made a great patch and a greater hitbox but i give someone a good headshot all i see is dust and no kill there not even a damge and the target is NOT moving
what's the word on that ?

and do you think that you will fix the Z ( get a bigger aim when you press Z with a assualt rifle ) and make it like 1.4

and if you want to fix the bugs and glitchs i'll be happy to give you guys all the glitchs and bugs that i know