Bf 2 1.5 ?!? - Page 4

AbsurdusOffline · 01-12-2008, 09:36 PM

It will be released on Dec 15th. Ahh, the good old days of patch rumors...

Beginner85 · 01-12-2008, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CallSignMavrick

1. Remove random deviation on all weapons and make recoil a bigger factor.
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7. Remove satellite scan
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13. Make AT rockets more powerful against armor.
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14. Make grappling hook and zip line available in vanilla BF2 (especially grappling hook, give it to spec ops, assault and anti tank, give grappling hook and zip line to snipers)

Man, u really need to play in Project Reality.

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Originally Posted by CallSignMavrick

22. Fix the server browser. Show accurate information on the servers (Also show ALL of the servers information on the loading screen). Add a filter for only servers without Infantry Only.
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24. Add a buddy list into the game, so that you can track what server your friends are playing on and allow you to join the same server with a press of a button.

Its will be when BF will supports by Steam. I hope it happening when BF3 release.

JGrasli · 01-12-2008, 10:21 PM

Beginner85:
You can already disable/deactivate Claymores with the Engineer's wrench.. Double-check before you post!

Why do you want to disable the EA-message? You dont need to click it away before doing anything, just click on Multiplayer or whatever..

Anyway, the most important for BF2 and the new patch is to fix bugs..

USAxGMF · 02-12-2008, 12:00 AM

the ppl who use a tv can not even play it at all with BF2 and BF2142.
note : many laptop ppl also can not even run the game.

to me this is a SHOWSTOPPER and needs to be addressed immediately in both BF2 and BF2142.

all you need to do is allow ppl with refresh rates lower then 60hz to play.....this SHOULD be an easy fix.

WE CAN NOT EVEN PLAY THE GAME.....when you have a problem then will not even let you enter the MAIN MENU to me that is a HUGE PROBLEM.

i hope this will be addressed in both bf2 and bf2142

thank-you.

bctrainers1 · 02-12-2008, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JGrasli

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Why do you want to disable the EA-message? You dont need to click it away before doing anything, just click on Multiplayer or whatever..

(snip)

Tell me you haven't once gotten annoyed at that thing coming up saying news completely unrelated to BF2. A simple check box to enable/disable that thing in the options panel would suffice.

zyborg_one · 02-12-2008, 01:46 AM

BF2 is probably the best game I've ever played and I have been playing First Person shooters since Wolfenstein 3D.
Guys, be appreciative that DICE has finally recognized that a lot of people still play this game.
It is very interesting to see so many people complaining about planes and other unrealistic requests(given the small team that DICE has probably allocated for this patch). If you do a server search, you will realize that most of them are Infantry Only (IO). IO mode was just (in my opinion) a "band aid" to resolve the unbalanced vehicles (both air and ground) -- as you can see it worked because so many people play it. I have one simple request:
Add checkboxes at the server level to enable\disable
- Light Vehicles (HUMVVEs, etc)
- Tanks and APCs
- Helicopters
- planes
- Commander Artillery (or add a long delay to reuse)

This will be another "band aid" that will make the game even better. Mainly what these changes will do is to stop commanders from overusing artillery--its annoying when you die every time you spawn because of artillery or because of some ridiculously skilled jet pilot performing bombing runs anytime you get in a vehicle.

New Maps are welcome, especially city maps--the most popular map is karkland.

Of course, everyone agrees that hacking should be disabled as much as possible.
I don't really have any other major requests, I enjoy the game as it is right now. I have been trying to find a game to replace it (and I am fortunate enough to have a computer that can even run Crysis), but I always come back to play BF2.

DICE....Thanks for the patch!

USAxGMF · 02-12-2008, 01:54 AM

dont forget who made dice what they are today...that would be the PC community.
im still pretty mad that they left the PC users in the dust when they chose to make BF Bad Company for consoles and NOTHING for PC...oh wait BF heroes fot young kids but i dont think that should even count.

dont forget they made BF2 for original xbox after they made BF2142 for PC (correct me if im wrong....either way they were real real close togather) then they made BF bad company.....and a year later we still dont have BF3, instead we have to wait a WHOLE YEAR again....

how lame to leave the PC people out for TWO product cycles.

i et you any amount of money that when BF3 does ship for PC the consoles will have another BF within 3months

where console got BF bad company we had to wait 2 years....we got completely skipped a product cycle...
thanks DICE....the people who made your company what it is today got left skipped a complete product cycle.

anyhow
THE REFRESH RATE FIX PLEASE!
have i said that already?

FireryFox · 02-12-2008, 07:55 AM

no one mentioned the "hitreg" or "netcode" yet?
hackers will still be on even after this patch,
so i say the "hitreg" or "netcode" is atleast as important!

its and fps game were you have to miss the target to kill it!

check this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Zfyx5q9kI
YouTube - BF2 Hit Detection Test
YouTube - Bf2 Heli Hitbox
YouTube - BF2 and the best hitbox i've ever seen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIW0awkH8rk
(this happen for everyone no matter ping,
this happen for me every damn round i play,
and i only play on servers i have a max ping of 25 ms.)

hit behind players to kill them,
tv missiles going straight through helicopters and jets!
it should be much more accurate than this in a fps game.
it su*** that you have to learn to miss to hit in a fps game were accuracy is what matters.

getting crashed to desktop is no way near as anoying as the "hitreg" or "netcode" bugs if you ask me.

pahkiller · 02-12-2008, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bazajaytee

Quick clarification on this one people.
I said it was the plan that we'd have the Beta by Christmas not WILL have it out by Christmas.

I know everyone is awaiting the update but I wanted to clear up any misunderstanding or mis-quoting.

I have told a few people about the POSSIBILITY that the BF2 patch 1.50 MAY be out before Christmas, and if so great if not well that's how it goes
I would love it to come out tonight but it may not no one in there right mind could predict what date but even if they knew and told people Management would turn around and change it but I am looking forward to seeing what its like if and or when it comes out, because it is a good game even if it has painful hackers

Bazajaytee · 02-12-2008, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AbsurdusOffline

It will be released on Dec 15th. Ahh, the good old days of patch rumors...

Are we witnessing the birth of a new rumour right here on the forums?

bether69 · 02-12-2008, 11:43 AM

Give us new cool air maps.

pahkiller · 02-12-2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bazajaytee

Are we witnessing the birth of a new rumour right here on the forums?

Well if its true yeah why not lol

Nakamp · 02-12-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FireryFox

no one mentioned the "hitreg" or "netcode" yet?
hackers will still be on even after this patch,
so i say the "hitreg" or "netcode" is atleast as important!

its and fps game were you have to miss the target to kill it!

check this:
YouTube - Battlefield 2's horrible hit detection
YouTube - BF2 Hit Detection Test
YouTube - Bf2 Heli Hitbox
YouTube - BF2 and the best hitbox i've ever seen
YouTube - Hitbox ownage
(this happen for everyone no matter ping,
this happen for me every damn round i play,
and i only play on servers i have a max ping of 25 ms.)

hit behind players to kill them,
tv missiles going straight through helicopters and jets!
it should be much more accurate than this in a fps game.
it su*** that you have to learn to miss to hit in a fps game were accuracy is what matters.

getting crashed to desktop is no way near as anoying as the "hitreg" or "netcode" bugs if you ask me.

Funniest thing about that is that when I crouchspam behind some cover to make my model and also hitbox move, people shoot me in the head while model is above the obstacle I am covering behind, but the hitbox is under it, so they get only dust. And then they accuse me from cheating, because they can't kill me while they should blame the game, not me...

USAxGMF · 02-12-2008, 05:11 PM

I repeat:

there is NOTHING more annoying then have paid good money for a game AND NOT BEING ABLE TO PLAY IT AT ALL!

oh maybe one thing might be more annoying....PAYING FOR TWO GAMES THAT DO THE SAME THING....ie...BF2 and BF2142.

all because some stupid refresh rate bug that wont let people play with TV that run at 30hz or 29hz....how STUPID.

VectorRoll · 02-12-2008, 05:55 PM

What is your monitor and what is the rate that it uses?

Also isn't their a program that can force refresh rate?
I remember reading about something somewhere.

I also remember that their were laptops that had an odd refresh rate sent with some of them that should not have been. And the only fix for the laptops was to send them in for a replacement; as it was a manufacture error. Not to say that that is what happened to you; as I do not even know what you have. It was just something that I read.

It actually sounds like you are trying to play the game on a TV rather than a computer monitor. Is that what you are trying to do?

I have a compiled list of resolutions and refresh rates that I have made from my experiences with the BF2142 game; using my monitors. It seems the list will vary depending on the hardware. If you want to look it over. It is a decent read. Hopefully it will be a similar thing for BF2 if widescreen is added. BF2142 Fullscreen & Widescreen Resolution Guide.
If we can find some fix to any refresh rate problem; like a side program I would like to add it to the thread.

Gh0stD0g · 02-12-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by USAxGMF

I repeat:

there is NOTHING more annoying then have paid good money for a game AND NOT BEING ABLE TO PLAY IT AT ALL!

oh maybe one thing might be more annoying....PAYING FOR TWO GAMES THAT DO THE SAME THING....ie...BF2 and BF2142.

all because some stupid refresh rate bug that wont let people play with TV that run at 30hz or 29hz....how STUPID.

Why don't you just get a pc monitor... like everyone else. It 's like saying 'hey, my boat won't drive on land'

. They barely cost any money, especially now with the economic crisis.

USAxGMF · 02-12-2008, 07:22 PM

no the thing with the laptops was not a manufacture defect.
their lcd`s operated at 59hz which is not unheard of.
bf2142 and bf2 are the ROOT of this problem.

my AND MANY MANY OTHER PEOPLE have this exact problem you can google it and see yourself.
ALL my other games work fine on my regular tv (non-hdtv) at a refresh rate of 30hz and i mean i have alot of games (and i repeat THEY all work)

everyone knows this is a BF2 and BF2142 problem and it has been narrowed down to (nothing under 60hz) will work with BF2 and BF2142

BUT LISTEN TO THIS (i know it is a SIMPLE fix) you know why?
when i have my regular CRT monitor hooked up and i am in 800x600@60hz and I have the TV in CLONE mode the TV is really in 800x800@30hz and the game plays fine on both the CRT monitor AND the TV

SO IF THE GAME CAN PLAY ON THE TV (which it does when there is a DEVICE that it sees at 60hz) it will play on the TV at 30hz in clone mode.

so this is a simple FIX that DICE has FAILED to ADDRESS even after 1000s of people have reported this problem....DICE continues to stay SILENCED.

widescreen support.....sheesh....i cant (and many many people) get the game to work at all.....when it is a stupid little fix that dice refuses to address.

so please for the love of god....add this fix to 1.5 for BF2 and make a patch for bf2142 1.51 maybe?

yea bf2 and bf2142 were never designed to work on a TV but come on.....people have been using TV-OUT for how many years now?

i know i had a nvidia TNT-1 that had TV-OUT and i got that v-card in 1995 or 1996

so TV-OUT gaming is not new at all.....DICE dropped the ball on BF2 and BF2142 when it came to tv-out gaming......NTSC TV runs at 29/30hz.....just add it to the game so we can play on our TV`s.....should be a simple fix as I ALREADY CAN PLAY IT ON MY TV IN CLONE MODE....so the game does play on my TV at 800x600@30hz.....this is a fact cause i have played it like that. so i know it can work.

the thing is i dont always have my CRT hooked to this system....it is usually hooked up to my other system and this system only has the TV hooked up.

so anytime i want to play BF2 or BF2142 i have to shutdown the other computer and disconnect the monitor....then hook monitor up to this system....go into nvidia control panel.....enable clone mode then the game will play fine on both the TV and CRT at same time.

how ridiculous when every other game i have does not have this problem,

these games work for sure with only my TV attached to my video card.

quake 3 arena
quake 4
Enemy Territory Quake Wars
Unreal Tournament 3
Crysis
Crysis Wars
Crysis Warhead
GRID
DIRT
Call Of Duty 4
Left 4 Dead
STALKER ClearSky
HL-2
Counter Strike Source
Rainbow Six Vegas 1
Rainbow Six Vegas 2

well are you getting the picture
ALL MY GAMES WORK WITH ONLY THE TV CONNECTED >>>EXCEPT BF2 and BF2142.

if you see the caps it is not because im yelling it is because i want to make sure DICE GETS THIS FIX IN<<<<<

there is absolutely no excuse why this fix was never added from the beginning first patches of BF2 and BF2142 should have had it included from RETAIL.

you dont even here me talk about widescreen support....i cant even get regular STANDARD 4:3 working so im not even going to ask about widescreen.

DICE KNOWS THIS IS THEIR PROBLEM AND NOT VISTA OR WINDOWS XP......this is PURELY in the games BF2 and BF2142.

VectorRoll · 02-12-2008, 08:23 PM

I was just mentioning the laptop as an example. I never said it was a defect; I said error. Some were sent out to people with the wrong screens in them than what was listed in the specs; which that the company admitted to. And those people have sent them back to get their screens replaced with the right ones.
That was just an isolated issue for some people. It is not the main problems that many people have with the refresh rate for this game as it does have issues for people that try to use something with a refresh rate that is not supported by the game.
Which is something that DICE could add to the game if they wanted too. They already have the game supported for the refresh rates that are the most common for computers out on market.

And yes their are some laptops that have 59Hz out their. Which is a separate issue from what I was originally talking about. But it is a good example of what you are talking about with lower refresh rates not being supported.

Refresh rates are things that people need to think about when purchasing or setting up systems. Their is a common standard that is used and the others are considered rare or what I like to call odd.

I understand that you want it to work for your setup but the fact is that it is a rare issue. Most of the people out their are going to be using the common refresh rate. Hopefully they will take your case under suggestion and add support for more refresh rate that are at lower settings.
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Also thanks for mentioning that Clone mode. I might look into it. who knows it might be a good thing to add to my other thread. It has been some time since I have messed around with displaying things on my TV with my computer; since my computers monitor is a HD monitor to begin with.

Nakamp · 02-12-2008, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by USAxGMF

***** moan moan ***** whine moan

You know that playing on TV will burn out your eyes if you are using it as normal monitor? Anyway, did you try to go to documents -> BF2 -> Profiles -> 000X (X=nr. of profile). There open Video.con in notepad and change this (f.e.
VideoSettings.setResolution 1024x768@75Hz) line to f.e.
VideoSettings.setResolution 1024x768@30Hz. Should work but lol @ playing at 30fps :D

TomBabmo · 02-12-2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JGrasli

Beginner85:
You can already disable/deactivate Claymores with the Engineer's wrench.. Double-check before you post!

Have you ever seen engineer disabling claymores? I haven't. Usually they spend their time in tanks driving around and MAYBE occasionally remove few enemy AT-mines so that they can get pass with their tank. Engineers can't get to places where claymores are.. because their tank is too big to fit into stairs! lalalala.

Albertaboy · 02-12-2008, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USAxGMF

no the thing with the laptops was not a manufacture defect.
their lcd`s operated at 59hz which is not unheard of.
bf2142 and bf2 are the ROOT of this problem.

my AND MANY MANY OTHER PEOPLE have this exact problem you can google it and see yourself.
ALL my other games work fine on my regular tv (non-hdtv) at a refresh rate of 30hz and i mean i have alot of games (and i repeat THEY all work)

everyone knows this is a BF2 and BF2142 problem and it has been narrowed down to (nothing under 60hz) will work with BF2 and BF2142

BUT LISTEN TO THIS (i know it is a SIMPLE fix) you know why?
when i have my regular CRT monitor hooked up and i am in 800x600@60hz and I have the TV in CLONE mode the TV is really in 800x800@30hz and the game plays fine on both the CRT monitor AND the TV

SO IF THE GAME CAN PLAY ON THE TV (which it does when there is a DEVICE that it sees at 60hz) it will play on the TV at 30hz in clone mode.

so this is a simple FIX that DICE has FAILED to ADDRESS even after 1000s of people have reported this problem....DICE continues to stay SILENCED.

widescreen support.....sheesh....i cant (and many many people) get the game to work at all.....when it is a stupid little fix that dice refuses to address.

so please for the love of god....add this fix to 1.5 for BF2 and make a patch for bf2142 1.51 maybe?

yea bf2 and bf2142 were never designed to work on a TV but come on.....people have been using TV-OUT for how many years now?

i know i had a nvidia TNT-1 that had TV-OUT and i got that v-card in 1995 or 1996

so TV-OUT gaming is not new at all.....DICE dropped the ball on BF2 and BF2142 when it came to tv-out gaming......NTSC TV runs at 29/30hz.....just add it to the game so we can play on our TV`s.....should be a simple fix as I ALREADY CAN PLAY IT ON MY TV IN CLONE MODE....so the game does play on my TV at 800x600@30hz.....this is a fact cause i have played it like that. so i know it can work.

the thing is i dont always have my CRT hooked to this system....it is usually hooked up to my other system and this system only has the TV hooked up.

so anytime i want to play BF2 or BF2142 i have to shutdown the other computer and disconnect the monitor....then hook monitor up to this system....go into nvidia control panel.....enable clone mode then the game will play fine on both the TV and CRT at same time.

how ridiculous when every other game i have does not have this problem,

these games work for sure with only my TV attached to my video card.

quake 3 arena
quake 4
Enemy Territory Quake Wars
Unreal Tournament 3
Crysis
Crysis Wars
Crysis Warhead
GRID
DIRT
Call Of Duty 4
Left 4 Dead
STALKER ClearSky
HL-2
Counter Strike Source
Rainbow Six Vegas 1
Rainbow Six Vegas 2

well are you getting the picture
ALL MY GAMES WORK WITH ONLY THE TV CONNECTED >>>EXCEPT BF2 and BF2142.

if you see the caps it is not because im yelling it is because i want to make sure DICE GETS THIS FIX IN<<<<<

there is absolutely no excuse why this fix was never added from the beginning first patches of BF2 and BF2142 should have had it included from RETAIL.

you dont even here me talk about widescreen support....i cant even get regular STANDARD 4:3 working so im not even going to ask about widescreen.

DICE KNOWS THIS IS THEIR PROBLEM AND NOT VISTA OR WINDOWS XP......this is PURELY in the games BF2 and BF2142.

Why would you even think of hooking your computer to a tv , especially when its not even a lcd tv..Like do you want to ruin your tv or what?..Theres a reason why theres a difference between a crt tv and an lcd tv..huge difference..and you use tv out??? ***..stick with your computer monitor or go and ask your mommy and daddy for a 32" lcd for christmas...I dont understand people like you who think a regular crt tv (even though it may be bigger) is better than a computer lcd monitor?? the refresh rate is different, the resolution is way better on a lcd, and computers were never meant to hook up to a crt tv..Give your head a shake man theres like a 1% population who are dumb enough too do that..Sorry but some peeps have no common sense!!

USAxGMF · 02-12-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Albertaboy

Why would you even think of hooking your computer to a tv , especially when its not even a lcd tv..Like do you want to ruin your tv or what?..Theres a reason why theres a difference between a crt tv and an lcd tv..huge difference..and you use tv out??? ***..stick with your computer monitor or go and ask your mommy and daddy for a 32" lcd for christmas...I dont understand people like you who think a regular crt tv (even though it may be bigger) is better than a computer lcd monitor?? the refresh rate is different, the resolution is way better on a lcd, and computers were never meant to hook up to a crt tv..Give your head a shake man theres like a 1% population who are dumb enough too do that..Sorry but some peeps have no common sense!!

i can tell you didnt read my post.

SINCE 1996 TV-OUT GAMING HAS BEEN GOING ON.
you can tell you are either console only or are new to pc gaming.

did you not understand when i SAID THIS IS THE ONLY GAME THAT DOES NOT WORK????
BF2 and BF2142 DO NOT WORK
EVERY OTHER GAME DOES WORK!

TV-OUT HAS BEEN IN PC GAMING SINCE THE BEGINNING.
its just a damm COMPOSITE OUT....nothing special
evedently you never had a vidoe card with TV-OUT or you never used it.
I AM NOT TALKING HDTV-OUT

I AM TALKING TV-OUT....plane old COMPOSITE.....ask any gamer that uses TV-OUT....we been doing it for years.....

THIS IS DICE FAULT WHY THIS DOES NOT WORK WITH THESE 2 GAMES....its not MICROSOFT AS IT DOES THIS IN LINUX TOO...
yes BF2 WORKS IN LINUX WITH THE SAME ILL EFFECTS....THE NOTHING BELOW 60hz PROBLEM.

ok so instead of blaming my TV or the way i have it hooked up....why dont you just TELL DICE TO FIX IT.
that is where the problem is.
like i said this has effected tons of laptops too....so its not just CRT lalalala....LAPTOPS USE LCD
some laptop manufactures used 59hz as the laptops NATIVE REFRESHRATE
there was nothing wrong with the laptops.....afterall the laptops worked fine...

it has to do with freaking BF2 AND BF2142
EVERYONE KNOWS THIS....ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GOOGLE AND READ YOURSELF.

IT IS NO SECRET

VectorRoll · 03-12-2008, 12:00 AM

It all narrows down to if they want to add support for lower refresh rates or additional refresh rates. The game is not broken because of it; so this would be an optional addition to the game. Like widescreen is. Widescreen was left out when the game was made because it was not really a main stream thing when the game was made; just as playing the game through a TV on lower refresh rates is.

Maybe they will take this in mind when implementing a patch or making new games. At the very least they should look at the small amount of circumstances that are out their. Like the very few laptops that have a native 59 Hz screen or the other computer monitors that may be like this. Granted their are not as many of them to be a major issue; but their is enough and it is an issue that warrants some looking into.

Quite frankly it is a subject that I think does needs its own thread. I will also ask DICE to look over this part of the thread to see if they can comment on this for those that may want to know about it.

USAxGMF · 03-12-2008, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by VectorRoll

It all narrows down to if they want to add support for lower refresh rates or additional refresh rates. The game is not broken because of it; so this would be an optional addition to the game. Like widescreen is. Widescreen was left out when the game was made because it was not really a main stream thing when the game was made; just as playing the game through a TV on lower refresh rates is.

Maybe they will take this in mind when implementing a patch or making new games. At the very least they should look at the small amount of circumstances that are out their. Like the very few laptops that have a native 59 Hz screen or the other computer monitors that may be like this. Granted their are not as many of them to be a major issue; but their is enough and it is an issue that warrants some looking into.

Quite frankly it is a subject that I think does needs its own thread. I will also ask DICE to look over this part of the thread to see if they can comment on this for those that may want to know about it.

i am sorry i have to disagree with you when you say it is comparable to widesceen issue.

have the game render in 16:9 or 16:10 gave a clear advantage over normal 4:3 users
that is why they would not do it before....you could cheat and STRECH a 4:3 with the szx and szy or whatever but it still was not a "TRUE" 16:9 or 16:10
it was just a simple work around to make it look ok on LCD native resolution

TRUE 16:9 and TRUE 16:10 means that the gamer will actually see more area then a normal 4:3 format....that is why they never made a "REAL" widescreen resolution

for this refresh rate FIX it is nothing more then adding lower refresh rates to we can play in 4:3 standard resolution but just with a lower refresh rate....should have been included along time ago.

VectorRoll · 03-12-2008, 12:53 AM

Now you have just misunderstood what I said.
Neither the Widescreen and other lower refresh rates were in the game when it was made. So adding them is optional at this time. That is were the issues are comparable. Plus I sad that neither were main stream when the game was made.

Having an advantage was not the reason why widescreen was not put into the game. If you know where it might be commented by DICE as that being the reason then feel free to show us; as I have never seen that and it would be new to me. If you can show me that then I will stand corrected.

The only things that I have ever seen about it are threads were people argue that other players have advantage over them because they can see a little more to the left and right of the screen.

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JGrasli Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 923	Beginner85: You can already disable/deactivate Claymores with the Engineer's wrench.. Double-check before you post! Why do you want to disable the EA-message? You dont need to click it away before doing anything, just click on Multiplayer or whatever.. Anyway, the most important for BF2 and the new patch is to fix bugs.. Last edited by JGrasli; 01-12-2008 at 10:28 PM..

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zyborg_one Rookie Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 2	BF2 is probably the best game I've ever played and I have been playing First Person shooters since Wolfenstein 3D. Guys, be appreciative that DICE has finally recognized that a lot of people still play this game. It is very interesting to see so many people complaining about planes and other unrealistic requests(given the small team that DICE has probably allocated for this patch). If you do a server search, you will realize that most of them are Infantry Only (IO). IO mode was just (in my opinion) a "band aid" to resolve the unbalanced vehicles (both air and ground) -- as you can see it worked because so many people play it. I have one simple request: Add checkboxes at the server level to enable\disable - Light Vehicles (HUMVVEs, etc) - Tanks and APCs - Helicopters - planes - Commander Artillery (or add a long delay to reuse) This will be another "band aid" that will make the game even better. Mainly what these changes will do is to stop commanders from overusing artillery--its annoying when you die every time you spawn because of artillery or because of some ridiculously skilled jet pilot performing bombing runs anytime you get in a vehicle. New Maps are welcome, especially city maps--the most popular map is karkland. Of course, everyone agrees that hacking should be disabled as much as possible. I don't really have any other major requests, I enjoy the game as it is right now. I have been trying to find a game to replace it (and I am fortunate enough to have a computer that can even run Crysis), but I always come back to play BF2. DICE....Thanks for the patch! Last edited by zyborg_one; 02-12-2008 at 01:55 AM.. Reason: Adding further details to my request.

02-12-2008, 07:55 AM	#83 (permalink)
FireryFox Rookie Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 2	no one mentioned the "hitreg" or "netcode" yet? hackers will still be on even after this patch, so i say the "hitreg" or "netcode" is atleast as important! its and fps game were you have to miss the target to kill it! check this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Zfyx5q9kI YouTube - BF2 Hit Detection Test YouTube - Bf2 Heli Hitbox YouTube - BF2 and the best hitbox i've ever seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIW0awkH8rk (this happen for everyone no matter ping, this happen for me every damn round i play, and i only play on servers i have a max ping of 25 ms.) hit behind players to kill them, tv missiles going straight through helicopters and jets! it should be much more accurate than this in a fps game. it su* that you have to learn to miss to hit in a fps game were accuracy is what matters. getting crashed to desktop is no way near as anoying as the "hitreg" or "netcode" bugs if you ask me.** Last edited by FireryFox; 02-12-2008 at 10:52 AM..

02-12-2008, 05:55 PM	#90 (permalink)
VectorRoll Battlefield Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: US Gender: Male Posts: 5,828	What is your monitor and what is the rate that it uses? Also isn't their a program that can force refresh rate? I remember reading about something somewhere. I also remember that their were laptops that had an odd refresh rate sent with some of them that should not have been. And the only fix for the laptops was to send them in for a replacement; as it was a manufacture error. Not to say that that is what happened to you; as I do not even know what you have. It was just something that I read. It actually sounds like you are trying to play the game on a TV rather than a computer monitor. Is that what you are trying to do? I have a compiled list of resolutions and refresh rates that I have made from my experiences with the BF2142 game; using my monitors. It seems the list will vary depending on the hardware. If you want to look it over. It is a decent read. Hopefully it will be a similar thing for BF2 if widescreen is added. BF2142 Fullscreen & Widescreen Resolution Guide. If we can find some fix to any refresh rate problem; like a side program I would like to add it to the thread. __________________ Battlefield Series \| Battlefield ROC \| Forum Rules \| Forum FAQ's PSN: VectorRoll HelpGuide For Router Settings. BF2142 Fullscreen & Widescreen Resolution Guide. Last edited by VectorRoll; 02-12-2008 at 06:07 PM..

02-12-2008, 12:00 AM	#79 (permalink)
USAxGMF Rookie Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 80	the ppl who use a tv can not even play it at all with BF2 and BF2142. note : many laptop ppl also can not even run the game. to me this is a SHOWSTOPPER and needs to be addressed immediately in both BF2 and BF2142. all you need to do is allow ppl with refresh rates lower then 60hz to play.....this SHOULD be an easy fix. WE CAN NOT EVEN PLAY THE GAME.....when you have a problem then will not even let you enter the MAIN MENU to me that is a HUGE PROBLEM. i hope this will be addressed in both bf2 and bf2142 thank-you.

02-12-2008, 01:54 AM	#82 (permalink)
USAxGMF Rookie Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 80	dont forget who made dice what they are today...that would be the PC community. im still pretty mad that they left the PC users in the dust when they chose to make BF Bad Company for consoles and NOTHING for PC...oh wait BF heroes fot young kids but i dont think that should even count. dont forget they made BF2 for original xbox after they made BF2142 for PC (correct me if im wrong....either way they were real real close togather) then they made BF bad company.....and a year later we still dont have BF3, instead we have to wait a WHOLE YEAR again.... how lame to leave the PC people out for TWO product cycles. i et you any amount of money that when BF3 does ship for PC the consoles will have another BF within 3months where console got BF bad company we had to wait 2 years....we got completely skipped a product cycle... thanks DICE....the people who made your company what it is today got left skipped a complete product cycle. anyhow THE REFRESH RATE FIX PLEASE! have i said that already?

02-12-2008, 11:43 AM	#86 (permalink)
bether69 Rookie Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 13	Give us new cool air maps.

02-12-2008, 05:11 PM	#89 (permalink)
USAxGMF Rookie Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 80	I repeat: there is NOTHING more annoying then have paid good money for a game AND NOT BEING ABLE TO PLAY IT AT ALL! oh maybe one thing might be more annoying....PAYING FOR TWO GAMES THAT DO THE SAME THING....ie...BF2 and BF2142. all because some stupid refresh rate bug that wont let people play with TV that run at 30hz or 29hz....how STUPID.

02-12-2008, 07:22 PM	#92 (permalink)
USAxGMF Rookie Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 80	no the thing with the laptops was not a manufacture defect. their lcd`s operated at 59hz which is not unheard of. bf2142 and bf2 are the ROOT of this problem. my AND MANY MANY OTHER PEOPLE have this exact problem you can google it and see yourself. ALL my other games work fine on my regular tv (non-hdtv) at a refresh rate of 30hz and i mean i have alot of games (and i repeat THEY all work) everyone knows this is a BF2 and BF2142 problem and it has been narrowed down to (nothing under 60hz) will work with BF2 and BF2142 BUT LISTEN TO THIS (i know it is a SIMPLE fix) you know why? when i have my regular CRT monitor hooked up and i am in 800x600@60hz and I have the TV in CLONE mode the TV is really in 800x800@30hz and the game plays fine on both the CRT monitor AND the TV SO IF THE GAME CAN PLAY ON THE TV (which it does when there is a DEVICE that it sees at 60hz) it will play on the TV at 30hz in clone mode. so this is a simple FIX that DICE has FAILED to ADDRESS even after 1000s of people have reported this problem....DICE continues to stay SILENCED. widescreen support.....sheesh....i cant (and many many people) get the game to work at all.....when it is a stupid little fix that dice refuses to address. so please for the love of god....add this fix to 1.5 for BF2 and make a patch for bf2142 1.51 maybe? yea bf2 and bf2142 were never designed to work on a TV but come on.....people have been using TV-OUT for how many years now? i know i had a nvidia TNT-1 that had TV-OUT and i got that v-card in 1995 or 1996 so TV-OUT gaming is not new at all.....DICE dropped the ball on BF2 and BF2142 when it came to tv-out gaming......NTSC TV runs at 29/30hz.....just add it to the game so we can play on our TV`s.....should be a simple fix as I ALREADY CAN PLAY IT ON MY TV IN CLONE MODE....so the game does play on my TV at 800x600@30hz.....this is a fact cause i have played it like that. so i know it can work. the thing is i dont always have my CRT hooked to this system....it is usually hooked up to my other system and this system only has the TV hooked up. so anytime i want to play BF2 or BF2142 i have to shutdown the other computer and disconnect the monitor....then hook monitor up to this system....go into nvidia control panel.....enable clone mode then the game will play fine on both the TV and CRT at same time. how ridiculous when every other game i have does not have this problem, these games work for sure with only my TV attached to my video card. quake 3 arena quake 4 Enemy Territory Quake Wars Unreal Tournament 3 Crysis Crysis Wars Crysis Warhead GRID DIRT Call Of Duty 4 Left 4 Dead STALKER ClearSky HL-2 Counter Strike Source Rainbow Six Vegas 1 Rainbow Six Vegas 2 well are you getting the picture ALL MY GAMES WORK WITH ONLY THE TV CONNECTED >>>EXCEPT BF2 and BF2142. if you see the caps it is not because im yelling it is because i want to make sure DICE GETS THIS FIX IN<<<<< there is absolutely no excuse why this fix was never added from the beginning first patches of BF2 and BF2142 should have had it included from RETAIL. you dont even here me talk about widescreen support....i cant even get regular STANDARD 4:3 working so im not even going to ask about widescreen. DICE KNOWS THIS IS THEIR PROBLEM AND NOT VISTA OR WINDOWS XP......this is PURELY in the games BF2 and BF2142.

02-12-2008, 08:23 PM	#93 (permalink)
VectorRoll Battlefield Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: US Gender: Male Posts: 5,828	I was just mentioning the laptop as an example. I never said it was a defect; I said error. Some were sent out to people with the wrong screens in them than what was listed in the specs; which that the company admitted to. And those people have sent them back to get their screens replaced with the right ones. That was just an isolated issue for some people. It is not the main problems that many people have with the refresh rate for this game as it does have issues for people that try to use something with a refresh rate that is not supported by the game. Which is something that DICE could add to the game if they wanted too. They already have the game supported for the refresh rates that are the most common for computers out on market. And yes their are some laptops that have 59Hz out their. Which is a separate issue from what I was originally talking about. But it is a good example of what you are talking about with lower refresh rates not being supported. Refresh rates are things that people need to think about when purchasing or setting up systems. Their is a common standard that is used and the others are considered rare or what I like to call odd. I understand that you want it to work for your setup but the fact is that it is a rare issue. Most of the people out their are going to be using the common refresh rate. Hopefully they will take your case under suggestion and add support for more refresh rate that are at lower settings. ------------------------------------------- Also thanks for mentioning that Clone mode. I might look into it. who knows it might be a good thing to add to my other thread. It has been some time since I have messed around with displaying things on my TV with my computer; since my computers monitor is a HD monitor to begin with. __________________ Battlefield Series \| Battlefield ROC \| Forum Rules \| Forum FAQ's PSN: VectorRoll HelpGuide For Router Settings. BF2142 Fullscreen & Widescreen Resolution Guide.

03-12-2008, 12:00 AM	#98 (permalink)
VectorRoll Battlefield Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: US Gender: Male Posts: 5,828	It all narrows down to if they want to add support for lower refresh rates or additional refresh rates. The game is not broken because of it; so this would be an optional addition to the game. Like widescreen is. Widescreen was left out when the game was made because it was not really a main stream thing when the game was made; just as playing the game through a TV on lower refresh rates is. Maybe they will take this in mind when implementing a patch or making new games. At the very least they should look at the small amount of circumstances that are out their. Like the very few laptops that have a native 59 Hz screen or the other computer monitors that may be like this. Granted their are not as many of them to be a major issue; but their is enough and it is an issue that warrants some looking into. Quite frankly it is a subject that I think does needs its own thread. I will also ask DICE to look over this part of the thread to see if they can comment on this for those that may want to know about it. __________________ Battlefield Series \| Battlefield ROC \| Forum Rules \| Forum FAQ's PSN: VectorRoll HelpGuide For Router Settings. BF2142 Fullscreen & Widescreen Resolution Guide.

03-12-2008, 12:53 AM	#100 (permalink)
VectorRoll Battlefield Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: US Gender: Male Posts: 5,828	Now you have just misunderstood what I said. Neither the Widescreen and other lower refresh rates were in the game when it was made. So adding them is optional at this time. That is were the issues are comparable. Plus I sad that neither were main stream when the game was made. Having an advantage was not the reason why widescreen was not put into the game. If you know where it might be commented by DICE as that being the reason then feel free to show us; as I have never seen that and it would be new to me. If you can show me that then I will stand corrected. The only things that I have ever seen about it are threads were people argue that other players have advantage over them because they can see a little more to the left and right of the screen. __________________ Battlefield Series \| Battlefield ROC \| Forum Rules \| Forum FAQ's PSN: VectorRoll HelpGuide For Router Settings. BF2142 Fullscreen & Widescreen Resolution Guide.