Patch news just posted

IGetPwnedOften · 18-09-2008, 03:37 PM

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There has been a lot of discussions on the Battlefield forums regarding the Battlefield 2 Update 1.50, so this is to let you all know what’s happening.

Update 1.50 is still in development, we have held back on releasing the update as we have become aware of and are taking preventative measures againslalala party tools which have been severely affecting everyone’s playing experience recently by crashing dedicated servers, clients as well as allowing account spoofing. We hope you understand our decision to delay the release to resolve these issues rather than releasing early with a need to update again.

We are looking to release this update by Winter of this year.

Sounds fair enough.

VectorRoll · 18-09-2008, 04:18 PM

This is good news. We even have two new separate DICE members that just recently posted. One in the Bad Company section and one in the BF2142 section.

I went ahead and updated the announcement section with the three latest announcements as well.

Spidery Yoda · 18-09-2008, 04:27 PM

Well its certainly good that they're delaying the patch to sort out problems. They're unlikely to ever get another chance.

Ustanotbesoham · 18-09-2008, 04:29 PM

Thank you ea/dice. That wasn't so hard, was it?

Bazajaytee · 18-09-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by VectorRoll

This is good news. We even have two new separate DICE members that just recently posted. One in the Bad Company section and one in the BF2142 section.

Guess thats where I come in.
Those of you that remember Jonner posting on here will probably wonder where he went. Well he moved to another project within DICE.
That leaves me to take his place. I'm Barrie, the Associate Producer on Battlefield 2 and 2142 and I'm responsible for Battlefield updates and any content we may add. I've been doing this role for the last year but since Jonner moved onto other things it has made way for me to show up on the forums (although I have been here all along anyway).
I'll answer what questions I can but some things I won't be able to comment on until its final so no asking for specific dates about 1.50 or what it contains

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Spidery Yoda · 18-09-2008, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bazajaytee

so no asking for specific dates about 1.50 or what it contains

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Awww.

Not even a hint? Tell us one teeny bugfix?

Bazajaytee · 18-09-2008, 04:54 PM

We have changed version numbers from 1.41 to 1.50

Well you did ask for a teeny bug fix

The bigger and better fixes are secret until we are ready to Beta

VectorRoll · 18-09-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bazajaytee

Guess thats where I come in.
Those of you that remember Jonner posting on here will probably wonder where he went. Well he moved to another project within DICE.
That leaves me to take his place. I'm Barrie, the Associate Producer on Battlefield 2 and 2142 and I'm responsible for Battlefield updates and any content we may add. I've been doing this role for the last year but since Jonner moved onto other things it has made way for me to show up on the forums (although I have been here all along anyway).
I'll answer what questions I can but some things I won't be able to comment on until its final so no asking for specific dates about 1.50 or what it contains

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Cool

Welcome to the forums. It is good to hear from you. i hope we get a chance to hear more from you as well.

IGetPwnedOften · 18-09-2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bazajaytee

We have changed version numbers from 1.41 to 1.50

Well you did ask for a teeny bug fix

The bigger and better fixes are secret until we are ready to Beta

Don't forget to update the readme.

Bazajaytee · 18-09-2008, 04:58 PM

Well as far as I know I'm in this for the long haul so should be around for a fair while yet

Spidery Yoda · 18-09-2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bazajaytee

We have changed version numbers from 1.41 to 1.50

Well you did ask for a teeny bug fix

Well I guess I did ask for it

JGrasli · 18-09-2008, 06:35 PM

And about the version number, remember to update the version number ingame too - in /Community/Custom games, it have to say 1.50 by BF2 too

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Anyway, Bazajaytee, for the new patch, please look at these fixes (they are really needed - its the most annoying bugs):

* Fix server info bug (not always showing server name/ip/graphic on the loading screen and on the server info tab on the scoreboard list).

* Fix crash (CTD) when picking up a kit (this happens sometimes).

* Fix squad-bug (sometimes only 1-3 squads, or no squads at all can be made). Currently the servers have to be restarted to fix this. This is really annoying as BF2 is a squad-teamplay game.
A tip: Maybe this issue is caused by a player making a squad too fast after map switch, then no more squads can be made.. ?

* Fix J-10 vs F-35b balancing issue --> The hitboxes on the F-35b are too big, therefore it becomes easy to hit it. So make the hitboxes on the F-35b SMALLER, the same as on the other planes so it becomes harder to hit it. This will fix the balance issue, as well as adding a "real fight" in the air.

* Fix the "Refresh"-button in the favourites list - If you press "refresh", it wont refresh, but instead empty the whole list (at least if you press refresh, then switch to "Internet", then back to "Favourites" again --> list empty). One thing that is sure is that the list does not get refreshed. The servers just disappear from the list until you restart the game/log in again..
Btw, it would be great if you could add the "Refresh" button for the main internet list back in again.

* Include the Highway Tampa-map in the patch, so we no longer have to download an extra file!

* Fix a glitch issue - parachuting between two walls/buildings. (Sorry, but I cant give you more information about this on the forum...)

* Smoke grenades should have thicker, longer lasting smoke and Assault kits should carry 2-3 smoke grenades. Currently we can have 3 flash-grenades, but only one smoke grenade. Give the Assault kit more smoke grenades..

Those things mentioned above are the most annoying things/bugs in BF2 right now. I hope and I pray to God that they get fixed. Sorry if I have posted this too many times, but please, I love BF2 so much

Such problems as the server info bug, CTD when picking up a kit, and squadbug is very annoying. These bugs also affects the mods.. :/
And as I said, please include "Highway Tampa" in the patch..

For a bigger "1.5 Wishlist", see this thread on BF2s.com:
BF2S Forums / BF2 Patch 1.5 WISHLIST!

page2142 · 18-09-2008, 11:28 PM

We are looking to release this update by Winter of this year.

So September 2009 yeh?

I really hope they find a solution and put it in to 2142 also.

Secondly I hope the developers learn some goddamn lessons for the next in the series.

RaptorUK · 19-09-2008, 12:35 AM

Hope we see the patch this side of XMAS, if you are reading this Mr DICE man, fix the F35 flying coffin and restore the blackhawk guns to full strength because you or your now dispersed Canadian counterparts really screwed the blackhawk up.

skutaboy · 19-09-2008, 06:57 AM

Awesome news, I might make 3 Star General afterall...... ;D

Bazajaytee · 19-09-2008, 08:09 AM

I can tell you now, the Blackhawk won't be changed as at full power it was a flying fortress with a bunch of engineers in the back.
Also no it wasn't me that changed it.
Regarding other fix suggestions, we are already in the final stages of the updates development so I won't get your hopes up and say I'll be adding things that won't be in there. Some things you mentioned may already be in there, others may not.

JGrasli · 19-09-2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bazajaytee

I can tell you now, the Blackhawk won't be changed as at full power it was a flying fortress with a bunch of engineers in the back.
Also no it wasn't me that changed it.
Regarding other fix suggestions, we are already in the final stages of the updates development so I won't get your hopes up and say I'll be adding things that won't be in there. Some things you mentioned may already be in there, others may not.

Ok, thanks for the information.
I just hope the server info bug, pickup-kit-crash, squadbug and those bugs gets fixed and Ill be happy. The squadbug is annoying the hell out of me when I am playing, especially when playing the mod "Project Reality".
If i join a server and a friend/clan-mate wants to know what the server name/ip is, I want to see it in the "server info box" on the scoreboard list/loading screen, which I currently cant (most of the times) because of the bug. Please fix it. I will love you DICE if you do

Im still having my fingers crossed and Im still praying to God.

Bazajaytee · 19-09-2008, 12:24 PM

Probably won't help prevent it but the squad creation problem is an odd issue caused by a few things.

The root of the cause is that if for example you create a custom squad called CHARLIE but are the 2nd squad to do it (BRAVO) then the HUD things that because there is a CHARLIE squad there should be another. Of course when the 3rd squad wants to be created it also wants to be CHARLIE so stops it from happening.
This combined with auto team swapping etc causes it to show more frequently. As you have said it is annoying and needs a server restart to get it working again.

RaptorUK · 19-09-2008, 01:55 PM

Thing is when they turned the blackhawk in to a flying sponge with regards to its fire power, they also made it harder to repair and it takes more damage making it a worthless piece of lalalala for the USMC, and considering the USMC need it for maps like wake and dalian, they get creamed of the chinese, the guns now dont hit lalalala, have you even tried it? i dont think you people at DICE realize you take major elements of the game away when you dumb it down to xbox360 standards, but hey you seem to know what your talking about.................

Bazajaytee · 19-09-2008, 02:24 PM

This is where things get difficult. One group of people post that they want one thing, another group posts another.
Its all about personal preference, we won't be able to please all people all of the time but hopefully you'll find there is enough in Battlefield to please all people most of the time.

RaptorUK · 19-09-2008, 03:02 PM

OK thanks for your replies, it makes a welcome change around here to have someone from EA/DICE keep us informed and answer questions when they can, its greatly appreciated. Back to BF2, can you give us any info in to whether there will be any new content in the update in regards to new maps, now don't be shy

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JGrasli · 19-09-2008, 03:06 PM

Ok thanks for the information. One more tip (that I have got from the PR-mod), is that if you create a squad too fast after map switch (and teamswitch), it may cause the squadbug (this is writed as a warning in the chat in some of the PR-servers..)..
Anyway, the squadbug is very annoying, especially in PR, so I would be glad if you could look at it. But hey, I know you are not allowed to say anything about the new patch so I probably have to wait and see

And the server info bug:
You cannot reproduce it on a local server, only on a normal internet server. Try connecting to one server (many times to tes lalala) with the current 1.41 patch, and you'll see that sometimes the server name/ip/graphic is NOT shown at all in the loading screen AND on the "server info" tab on the scoreboard list.
Please DICE, fix the server info bug (I beg you). The screen looks so weird without the name and IP, the only thing I see is (0) where the name/ip should have been.

And the F-35b vs J-10 problem - its the F-35b that has too big hitboxes compared to the other planes. It needs a fix!

Keep up the good work DICE!

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RaptorUK: Bug fixes comes first, THEN new content! Bug fixes should always be the #1 priority. After that comes new content..

Bazajaytee · 19-09-2008, 03:15 PM

OK starting with RaptorUK:
Glad to give as much information and help to you guys as I can. However I can't tell you about any new content or maps which may or may not exist.

Now JGrasli:
Thanks for the extra information about the squad bug.
The hit box for the F-35b is bigger compared to other planes because its a bigger plane

I do know that a lot has been mentioned about the plane balance though across lots of forums.

Ustanotbesoham · 19-09-2008, 03:16 PM

Right. There are a few balance issues that are almost universally viewed as needed fixing (f35 and g36e). Those few things, bug fixing and anticheat measures should be the priority.

But I can't resist making my own wish list.
Its a short one too. -- Give the PR and POE mods ranked status. They are both mature, well tested, polished, bug free, and fun. Giving the mods the legitimacy of being ranked would encourage more people to try them and (assuming they are as popular as I think they would be) the ranked server rentals would go up again.

Ranked server payments is easy money. The only downside to reinvigorating BF2 would be the potential loss of revenue from newly released games. But it doesn't sound like Dice will be releasing anything for the PC for a while, so that shouldn't be an issue.

I don;t know what sort of legal mumbo-jumbo would be needed from the mod teams, but I would imagine they would jump at the chance to have their hard work exposed to a larger audience.

So, with very little effort on Dice's part, you could introduce a whole slew of new maps and weapons, and new game modes and styles of play.

Sounds like a win-win to me, eh?

JGrasli · 19-09-2008, 03:23 PM

Bazajaytee:
Yeah, I know the F-35b is bigger than the other planes, but the F-18 plane is also big.. It seems like the F-18 dont have this problem so..
But please, look away from how big the plane is, or.. Please do something to fix the imbalance. Its so easy to hit the F-35b (its way to easy). The hitboxes are simply too big. The problem is somewhere on the F-35b, not on the J-10.
Heh

I will end this post here, but do you have any reply on the server info bug? Try connecting to a few servers and you can see both on the loading screen and on the server info tab that the name/ip is not always shown.. I beg to God to get this fixed.
Bazajaytee, you and the rest of the DICE team are doing a great job. Keep up the good work!

18-09-2008, 04:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
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18-09-2008, 04:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
Spidery Yoda Forum Guru Join Date: Sep 2007 Age: 20 Posts: 1,637	Well its certainly good that they're delaying the patch to sort out problems. They're unlikely to ever get another chance. __________________

18-09-2008, 06:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
JGrasli Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 918	Bazajaytee, here are some suggestions for Patch 1.50 And about the version number, remember to update the version number ingame too - in /Community/Custom games, it have to say 1.50 by BF2 too ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anyway, Bazajaytee, for the new patch, please look at these fixes (they are really needed - its the most annoying bugs): * Fix server info bug (not always showing server name/ip/graphic on the loading screen and on the server info tab on the scoreboard list). * Fix crash (CTD) when picking up a kit (this happens sometimes). * Fix squad-bug (sometimes only 1-3 squads, or no squads at all can be made). Currently the servers have to be restarted to fix this. This is really annoying as BF2 is a squad-teamplay game. A tip: Maybe this issue is caused by a player making a squad too fast after map switch, then no more squads can be made.. ? * Fix J-10 vs F-35b balancing issue --> The hitboxes on the F-35b are too big, therefore it becomes easy to hit it. So make the hitboxes on the F-35b SMALLER, the same as on the other planes so it becomes harder to hit it. This will fix the balance issue, as well as adding a "real fight" in the air. * Fix the "Refresh"-button in the favourites list - If you press "refresh", it wont refresh, but instead empty the whole list (at least if you press refresh, then switch to "Internet", then back to "Favourites" again --> list empty). One thing that is sure is that the list does not get refreshed. The servers just disappear from the list until you restart the game/log in again.. Btw, it would be great if you could add the "Refresh" button for the main internet list back in again. * Include the Highway Tampa-map in the patch, so we no longer have to download an extra file! * Fix a glitch issue - parachuting between two walls/buildings. (Sorry, but I cant give you more information about this on the forum...) * Smoke grenades should have thicker, longer lasting smoke and Assault kits should carry 2-3 smoke grenades. Currently we can have 3 flash-grenades, but only one smoke grenade. Give the Assault kit more smoke grenades.. Those things mentioned above are the most annoying things/bugs in BF2 right now. I hope and I pray to God that they get fixed. Sorry if I have posted this too many times, but please, I love BF2 so much Such problems as the server info bug, CTD when picking up a kit, and squadbug is very annoying. These bugs also affects the mods.. :/ And as I said, please include "Highway Tampa" in the patch.. For a bigger "1.5 Wishlist", see this thread on BF2s.com: BF2S Forums / BF2 Patch 1.5 WISHLIST! Last edited by JGrasli; 18-09-2008 at 10:14 PM..

19-09-2008, 06:57 AM	#15 (permalink)
skutaboy Rookie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 421	Awesome news, I might make 3 Star General afterall...... ;D __________________

19-09-2008, 03:06 PM	#22 (permalink)
JGrasli Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 918	Ok thanks for the information. One more tip (that I have got from the PR-mod), is that if you create a squad too fast after map switch (and teamswitch), it may cause the squadbug (this is writed as a warning in the chat in some of the PR-servers..).. Anyway, the squadbug is very annoying, especially in PR, so I would be glad if you could look at it. But hey, I know you are not allowed to say anything about the new patch so I probably have to wait and see And the server info bug: You cannot reproduce it on a local server, only on a normal internet server. Try connecting to one server (many times to tes lalala) with the current 1.41 patch, and you'll see that sometimes the server name/ip/graphic is NOT shown at all in the loading screen AND on the "server info" tab on the scoreboard list. Please DICE, fix the server info bug (I beg you). The screen looks so weird without the name and IP, the only thing I see is (0) where the name/ip should have been. And the F-35b vs J-10 problem - its the F-35b that has too big hitboxes compared to the other planes. It needs a fix! Keep up the good work DICE! ----------------------------------- RaptorUK: Bug fixes comes first, THEN new content! Bug fixes should always be the #1 priority. After that comes new content.. Last edited by JGrasli; 19-09-2008 at 03:15 PM..

18-09-2008, 04:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ustanotbesoham Rookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 398	Thank you ea/dice. That wasn't so hard, was it?

18-09-2008, 04:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
Bazajaytee DICE Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Age: 30 Gender: Male Posts: 1,509	We have changed version numbers from 1.41 to 1.50 Well you did ask for a teeny bug fix The bigger and better fixes are secret until we are ready to Beta

18-09-2008, 04:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
Bazajaytee DICE Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Age: 30 Gender: Male Posts: 1,509	Well as far as I know I'm in this for the long haul so should be around for a fair while yet

18-09-2008, 11:28 PM	#13 (permalink)
page2142 Forum Guru Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The slums, Glasgow Age: 22 Posts: 1,061	We are looking to release this update by Winter of this year. So September 2009 yeh? I really hope they find a solution and put it in to 2142 also. Secondly I hope the developers learn some goddamn lessons for the next in the series.

19-09-2008, 12:35 AM	#14 (permalink)
RaptorUK Rookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: London Age: 32 Gender: Male Posts: 499	Hope we see the patch this side of XMAS, if you are reading this Mr DICE man, fix the F35 flying coffin and restore the blackhawk guns to full strength because you or your now dispersed Canadian counterparts really screwed the blackhawk up.

19-09-2008, 08:09 AM	#16 (permalink)
Bazajaytee DICE Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Age: 30 Gender: Male Posts: 1,509	I can tell you now, the Blackhawk won't be changed as at full power it was a flying fortress with a bunch of engineers in the back. Also no it wasn't me that changed it. Regarding other fix suggestions, we are already in the final stages of the updates development so I won't get your hopes up and say I'll be adding things that won't be in there. Some things you mentioned may already be in there, others may not.

19-09-2008, 12:24 PM	#18 (permalink)
Bazajaytee DICE Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Age: 30 Gender: Male Posts: 1,509	Probably won't help prevent it but the squad creation problem is an odd issue caused by a few things. The root of the cause is that if for example you create a custom squad called CHARLIE but are the 2nd squad to do it (BRAVO) then the HUD things that because there is a CHARLIE squad there should be another. Of course when the 3rd squad wants to be created it also wants to be CHARLIE so stops it from happening. This combined with auto team swapping etc causes it to show more frequently. As you have said it is annoying and needs a server restart to get it working again.

19-09-2008, 01:55 PM	#19 (permalink)
RaptorUK Rookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: London Age: 32 Gender: Male Posts: 499	Thing is when they turned the blackhawk in to a flying sponge with regards to its fire power, they also made it harder to repair and it takes more damage making it a worthless piece of lalalala for the USMC, and considering the USMC need it for maps like wake and dalian, they get creamed of the chinese, the guns now dont hit lalalala, have you even tried it? i dont think you people at DICE realize you take major elements of the game away when you dumb it down to xbox360 standards, but hey you seem to know what your talking about.................

19-09-2008, 02:24 PM	#20 (permalink)
Bazajaytee DICE Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Age: 30 Gender: Male Posts: 1,509	This is where things get difficult. One group of people post that they want one thing, another group posts another. Its all about personal preference, we won't be able to please all people all of the time but hopefully you'll find there is enough in Battlefield to please all people most of the time.

19-09-2008, 03:02 PM	#21 (permalink)
RaptorUK Rookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: London Age: 32 Gender: Male Posts: 499	OK thanks for your replies, it makes a welcome change around here to have someone from EA/DICE keep us informed and answer questions when they can, its greatly appreciated. Back to BF2, can you give us any info in to whether there will be any new content in the update in regards to new maps, now don't be shy .

19-09-2008, 03:15 PM	#23 (permalink)
Bazajaytee DICE Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Age: 30 Gender: Male Posts: 1,509	OK starting with RaptorUK: Glad to give as much information and help to you guys as I can. However I can't tell you about any new content or maps which may or may not exist. Now JGrasli: Thanks for the extra information about the squad bug. The hit box for the F-35b is bigger compared to other planes because its a bigger plane I do know that a lot has been mentioned about the plane balance though across lots of forums.

19-09-2008, 03:16 PM	#24 (permalink)
Ustanotbesoham Rookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 398	Right. There are a few balance issues that are almost universally viewed as needed fixing (f35 and g36e). Those few things, bug fixing and anticheat measures should be the priority. But I can't resist making my own wish list. Its a short one too. -- Give the PR and POE mods ranked status. They are both mature, well tested, polished, bug free, and fun. Giving the mods the legitimacy of being ranked would encourage more people to try them and (assuming they are as popular as I think they would be) the ranked server rentals would go up again. Ranked server payments is easy money. The only downside to reinvigorating BF2 would be the potential loss of revenue from newly released games. But it doesn't sound like Dice will be releasing anything for the PC for a while, so that shouldn't be an issue. I don;t know what sort of legal mumbo-jumbo would be needed from the mod teams, but I would imagine they would jump at the chance to have their hard work exposed to a larger audience. So, with very little effort on Dice's part, you could introduce a whole slew of new maps and weapons, and new game modes and styles of play. Sounds like a win-win to me, eh?

19-09-2008, 03:23 PM	#25 (permalink)
JGrasli Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 918	Bazajaytee: Yeah, I know the F-35b is bigger than the other planes, but the F-18 plane is also big.. It seems like the F-18 dont have this problem so.. But please, look away from how big the plane is, or.. Please do something to fix the imbalance. Its so easy to hit the F-35b (its way to easy). The hitboxes are simply too big. The problem is somewhere on the F-35b, not on the J-10. Heh I will end this post here, but do you have any reply on the server info bug? Try connecting to a few servers and you can see both on the loading screen and on the server info tab that the name/ip is not always shown.. I beg to God to get this fixed. Bazajaytee, you and the rest of the DICE team are doing a great job. Keep up the good work! Last edited by JGrasli; 19-09-2008 at 03:25 PM..