Squad system - spawn on squad lead ?

ExplodingSilver · 23-06-2009, 10:35 PM

question for DICE

BF2 & 2142 have 6 man squad with spawn on squad lead (if they are alive)

1943 has 4 man squad, does it have spawn on squad lead (if they are alive) or spawn on the most forward squad member, or something else ?

yours
a teamplayer who is very interesting in the answer !
thanks

Sevenon · 23-06-2009, 10:39 PM

Spawn on the currently longest living squad members.

ZuluCubed · 23-06-2009, 10:43 PM

Spawn on whichever squad member you want, let us cycle through them.

Sevenon · 23-06-2009, 10:46 PM

I think it should stay as is or go back to the squad leader!

Ronin0ni · 23-06-2009, 10:47 PM

You guys should prolly read, oh I dunno, frequently asked questions before asking them...

In 1943 you can spawn on any squad member of your choice... that is of course, given that you are actually in a squad, which is now optional.

rich7733 · 23-06-2009, 10:50 PM

yep...spawn on whatever squad member you want to..your choice

Sevenon · 23-06-2009, 10:54 PM

Man thats even worse than on longest living, jeez!

ExplodingSilver · 23-06-2009, 10:56 PM

its a different squad dynamic to what i am used to and will be interesting to try out
It will be fun !

XxXxXzekstaXxXx · 23-06-2009, 11:07 PM

Agreed! This will be a very interesting and useful feature compared to BF2/2142 where u could only spawn on the leader. This we'll add much more opitinal abbilitys, and i love options

Ronin0ni · 23-06-2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sevenon

Man thats even worse than on longest living, jeez!

I'm sorry... how is this worse?

The longest living was always some worthless camping sniper... this means you can spawn on your squad mate actually attacking flags

Sevenon · 23-06-2009, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronin0ni

I'm sorry... how is this worse?

The longest living was always some worthless camping sniper... this means you can spawn on your squad mate actually attacking flags

I like the squad leader the best, i am a tactical team oriented player, and it appeals to me the most. I like longest living better (than any player) because i know how to manage my entire team, so the sniper being a spawn point wont happen unless i (or a squad leader) coordinates it that way.

Ronin0ni · 23-06-2009, 11:33 PM

or you die

Unless that's all you do, creep around acting as a spawn point. But then you are a wasted player slot really

Spawn on member of your choice opens up more tactical options, it doesn't reduce them

ExplodingSilver · 23-06-2009, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronin0ni

....Unless that's all you do, creep around acting as a spawn point. But then you are a wasted player slot really
...

not a clever statement, it shows you don't understand good squad leading in BF/2142

Ronin0ni · 23-06-2009, 11:59 PM

ok, but 2142 is NOT BFBC... you got 12 player slots for your team, if 3 of those are sucked up with people hiding the whole time trying to act as spawn, the remaining 9 will have a harder time fighting off a force 33% larger than them.

1943 just means no one has to sit out, or you have a scout hang back a lil bit, people can spawn right on the front, or 100 meters back with you if the attack team got wiped.

in other words, my original stance of spawning on squad member of your choice only ADDS to the tactical possibilities

ExplodingSilver · 24-06-2009, 12:01 AM

this thread is about BF2/2142 compared to 1943, try to keep on track !!

Nexar · 24-06-2009, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronin0ni

ok, but 2142 is NOT BFBC... you got 12 player slots for your team, if 3 of those are sucked up with people hiding the whole time trying to act as spawn, the remaining 9 will have a harder time fighting off a force 33% larger than them.

1943 just means no one has to sit out, or you have a scout hang back a lil bit, people can spawn right on the front, or 100 meters back with you if the attack team got wiped.

in other words, my original stance of spawning on squad member of your choice only ADDS to the tactical possibilities

Have you ever played BF2? They patched the game to fix this. The squad leader earned points for squad leading. Why would they re-implement it in 1943?

1Bryce1 · 24-06-2009, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronin0ni

in other words, my original stance of spawning on squad member of your choice only ADDS to the tactical possibilities

There wasn't much of an argument to begin with. The squad system in BFBC was pretty much useless. Not to mention the occasional shot to the face when you spawned on a random person and surprised him.

Ronin0ni · 24-06-2009, 12:06 AM

? far as I know there are no real squad leaders.. you can create a squad, which makes you a leader in a sense I suppose, but only in that you are the one with the controls to make the squad private/public and use either team/squad chat.

Far as I know, they have no other benefit to creating a squad.

pointless discussion anyways since 1943 is already finished, the squad system allows you to spawn on squad member of your choice already, this is in the game.

I guess you guys still have 2 months for the PC version, but honestly, don't expect anything.

Sibben · 24-06-2009, 08:24 AM

You can pick any squad member to spawn on, provided they are alive and not tied up in a vehicle without empty stations.

merro · 24-06-2009, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sibben

You can pick any squad member to spawn on, provided they are alive and not tied up in a vehicle without empty stations.

Thats great, since it sucks in BFBC when you spawn on a camping sniper miles away from the action!
The improved squad system gives more tactical depth!
Now Squad Play makes sense and you really can bring mayhem to the enemy when all of your buddys spawn on you.
For Ex. they all spawn on you when you are taking a flag!
NICE!

asdarawsd · 24-06-2009, 10:02 AM

I play bf series from the 2002 bf1942 Wake demo and I can tell you that the respawn in the squad kill the gameplay and the tactics in the clan wars.

Gortheur · 24-06-2009, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asdarawsd

I play bf series from the 2002 bf1942 Wake demo and I can tell you that the respawn in the squad kill the gameplay and the tactics in the clan wars.

BF42 squad spawn?

I remember that in 1942 there wasn't squad spawn. Just at flags.

jackhill08 · 24-06-2009, 11:22 AM

I'm no team leader and I've only remembered a couple of times being in a squad with really good team leaders...most of the time I've spent twiddling my thumbs being absolutely bored because the team leader has turned the game into the way he wants to play it usually a sniper Rama with nobody ever making any headway...except for those players who ignore team tactics and run around the maps getting the job done...Bad company was the game for me even with only 12 team mates and 3 squads there's always action on the battlefield... On BC i have noticed that even with out mics squads are really working together and understanding each others play...This is not a tactical stealthy special forces raid... This is all out destruction and mayhem...No room for ultra organised tactics...This is WAR Gentleman Welcome to the Battlefield........

vijx · 24-06-2009, 11:59 AM

In last night's live feed, she said that the squad leader can issue basic orders like attack.

The squad leader is determined by whoever has the highest rank. But for squad spawn you can spawn on anyone.

Symonator · 24-06-2009, 12:08 PM

Of course its better to spawn on alternate squad members.

Lets show you why:

BF2 pc: a squad leader gets in plane - rendering spawning on squad leader useless, also if they are in a tank with another squad member - you can't spawn on them either (no room).

BFBC: Possibly the worst sqaud system ever made - spawning on 1 sqaud member who is probs 80% of the time about 1 base behind and miles away.
Also if thry are in heli and both seats are used you can;t spawn either.

Bf 43: select a tactical member who is close to base , near an area of attack and maybe 2 of your sqaud members are in a tank, so you can pick another member who is on land... how is this not better?

How... is... it... not... better?

At least u dont have to rely on 1 sqaud member - once he/she killed you can't spawn on them- cuz hes dead!

how many times have u been waiting on a wake island map on pc - stuck on carrier whilst you try and attack, but can't because your sqaud leader may be taking a plane to bail out at a flag then hes killed---- back to the carrier - repeat.

YA on ya fav map just about to spawn and BOOOOOOOM artillery smashes your sqaud leader - oh noes you can't spawn!

walk round the corner and a sniper claymored the area - booooooooom ya sqaud leaders dead!

boom boom nade spam - your squad leaders dead!
You can't spawn on him

So.. how is it not better?

You would have had this scenario as a bf player, so any improvement is good.

And theres no teamwork in relying on your sqaud leader to do the work for you..is there? no.. thers not..!

23-06-2009, 10:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
ExplodingSilver Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 38	Squad system - spawn on squad lead ? question for DICE BF2 & 2142 have 6 man squad with spawn on squad lead (if they are alive) 1943 has 4 man squad, does it have spawn on squad lead (if they are alive) or spawn on the most forward squad member, or something else ? yours a teamplayer who is very interesting in the answer ! thanks __________________ \|TG\| Exploding_Silver BC2 Training videos <clicky here>

23-06-2009, 10:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
rich7733 Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA, Southern California Age: 26 Posts: 946	yep...spawn on whatever squad member you want to..your choice __________________

23-06-2009, 10:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
ExplodingSilver Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 38	its a different squad dynamic to what i am used to and will be interesting to try out It will be fun ! __________________ \|TG\| Exploding_Silver BC2 Training videos <clicky here>

23-06-2009, 11:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
XxXxXzekstaXxXx Forum Regular Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Australia, Melbourne Age: 15 Posts: 722	Agreed! This will be a very interesting and useful feature compared to BF2/2142 where u could only spawn on the leader. This we'll add much more opitinal abbilitys, and i love options __________________ Deadly and Efficient.

24-06-2009, 12:01 AM	#15 (permalink)
ExplodingSilver Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 38	this thread is about BF2/2142 compared to 1943, try to keep on track !! __________________ \|TG\| Exploding_Silver BC2 Training videos <clicky here>

23-06-2009, 10:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
Sevenon Rookie Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 187	Spawn on the currently longest living squad members.

23-06-2009, 10:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
ZuluCubed Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Age: 22 Posts: 216	Spawn on whichever squad member you want, let us cycle through them.

23-06-2009, 10:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
Sevenon Rookie Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 187	I think it should stay as is or go back to the squad leader!

23-06-2009, 10:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
Ronin0ni Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cali. In the United States of No More Rights Posts: 12,010	You guys should prolly read, oh I dunno, frequently asked questions before asking them... In 1943 you can spawn on any squad member of your choice... that is of course, given that you are actually in a squad, which is now optional.

23-06-2009, 10:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
Sevenon Rookie Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 187	Man thats even worse than on longest living, jeez!

23-06-2009, 11:33 PM	#12 (permalink)
Ronin0ni Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cali. In the United States of No More Rights Posts: 12,010	or you die Unless that's all you do, creep around acting as a spawn point. But then you are a wasted player slot really Spawn on member of your choice opens up more tactical options, it doesn't reduce them

23-06-2009, 11:59 PM	#14 (permalink)
Ronin0ni Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cali. In the United States of No More Rights Posts: 12,010	ok, but 2142 is NOT BFBC... you got 12 player slots for your team, if 3 of those are sucked up with people hiding the whole time trying to act as spawn, the remaining 9 will have a harder time fighting off a force 33% larger than them. 1943 just means no one has to sit out, or you have a scout hang back a lil bit, people can spawn right on the front, or 100 meters back with you if the attack team got wiped. in other words, my original stance of spawning on squad member of your choice only ADDS to the tactical possibilities

24-06-2009, 12:06 AM	#18 (permalink)
Ronin0ni Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cali. In the United States of No More Rights Posts: 12,010	? far as I know there are no real squad leaders.. you can create a squad, which makes you a leader in a sense I suppose, but only in that you are the one with the controls to make the squad private/public and use either team/squad chat. Far as I know, they have no other benefit to creating a squad. pointless discussion anyways since 1943 is already finished, the squad system allows you to spawn on squad member of your choice already, this is in the game. I guess you guys still have 2 months for the PC version, but honestly, don't expect anything.

24-06-2009, 08:24 AM	#19 (permalink)
Sibben DICE Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Age: 39 Posts: 212	You can pick any squad member to spawn on, provided they are alive and not tied up in a vehicle without empty stations. __________________ Sebastian Armonioso Lead Designer, Battlefield 1943

24-06-2009, 10:02 AM	#21 (permalink)
asdarawsd Rookie Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 13	I play bf series from the 2002 bf1942 Wake demo and I can tell you that the respawn in the squad kill the gameplay and the tactics in the clan wars. __________________

24-06-2009, 11:22 AM	#23 (permalink)
jackhill08 Forum Guru Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Berwick Posts: 1,058	I'm no team leader and I've only remembered a couple of times being in a squad with really good team leaders...most of the time I've spent twiddling my thumbs being absolutely bored because the team leader has turned the game into the way he wants to play it usually a sniper Rama with nobody ever making any headway...except for those players who ignore team tactics and run around the maps getting the job done...Bad company was the game for me even with only 12 team mates and 3 squads there's always action on the battlefield... On BC i have noticed that even with out mics squads are really working together and understanding each others play...This is not a tactical stealthy special forces raid... This is all out destruction and mayhem...No room for ultra organised tactics...This is WAR Gentleman Welcome to the Battlefield........

24-06-2009, 11:59 AM	#24 (permalink)
vijx Forum Guru Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: A post-apocolyptic underground command center Posts: 2,335	In last night's live feed, she said that the squad leader can issue basic orders like attack. The squad leader is determined by whoever has the highest rank. But for squad spawn you can spawn on anyone. __________________ Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time

24-06-2009, 12:08 PM	#25 (permalink)
Symonator Forum Junkie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Stafford, UK Posts: 2,513	Of course its better to spawn on alternate squad members. Lets show you why: BF2 pc: a squad leader gets in plane - rendering spawning on squad leader useless, also if they are in a tank with another squad member - you can't spawn on them either (no room). BFBC: Possibly the worst sqaud system ever made - spawning on 1 sqaud member who is probs 80% of the time about 1 base behind and miles away. Also if thry are in heli and both seats are used you can;t spawn either. Bf 43: select a tactical member who is close to base , near an area of attack and maybe 2 of your sqaud members are in a tank, so you can pick another member who is on land... how is this not better? How... is... it... not... better? At least u dont have to rely on 1 sqaud member - once he/she killed you can't spawn on them- cuz hes dead! how many times have u been waiting on a wake island map on pc - stuck on carrier whilst you try and attack, but can't because your sqaud leader may be taking a plane to bail out at a flag then hes killed---- back to the carrier - repeat. YA on ya fav map just about to spawn and BOOOOOOOM artillery smashes your sqaud leader - oh noes you can't spawn! walk round the corner and a sniper claymored the area - booooooooom ya sqaud leaders dead! boom boom nade spam - your squad leaders dead! You can't spawn on him So.. how is it not better? You would have had this scenario as a bf player, so any improvement is good. And theres no teamwork in relying on your sqaud leader to do the work for you..is there? no.. thers not..! __________________ YouTube Here \| EA Forums Full Of Trolls. Last edited by Symonator; 24-06-2009 at 12:26 PM.

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