16 people to start a private match!? - Page 6

Ronin0ni · 17-06-2009, 12:22 AM

LOL, you'd get it anyways

I'm thinking the "host" would have the ability to kick... that would be my best guess.

Studio · 17-06-2009, 01:45 AM

trust me...if you get in a room of 11 people who do not want you there... you're probably gonna leave lol

peace
B

Dc5_BuBbLe5 · 17-06-2009, 03:16 AM

I agree completly with 16 players needed to make a private match we dont need any goofs makin servers for them and a buddy to kill each other with while clans cant open a server. And because the maps are bigger on 1943 then on for example bf modern combat where 4v4 clan battles could be played where the players still see alot of action on conquest we cannot have 8 player rooms. If you played bfbc conquest you would know that 10 man rooms are close to unplayable.

Also dedicated servers are much better then p2p servers because all players will be on the same playing field instead the host having a major advantage over everyone else. Hate to be repetitive but if you played cod 4/5 or gears you know what i am talking about.

Like others on here, i am wondering what would happen to the server if 1 out of the 16 ppl leave?

But other then that i know alot of ppl are excited to play this and have the option to make a private match so for that i thank you.

Sibben · 17-06-2009, 08:45 AM

For consoles anyone invited can invite and you can not kick players. I vaguely remember there were regulations and/or technical limitations leading to this because my initial design was a bit more stringent. It is however important to remember that Private Matches is supplied as a pretty free form tool for clans and ladders. It is *not* a full clan support system with but we felt it was better to supply this anyway and people will find good uses with it.

HellBeNt187 · 17-06-2009, 11:28 AM

Thanks Sibben! I know I'm excited about private matches on dedicated servers. I doubt I'll ever use it myself, but it's going to be a real treat for those who do. Server quality like this is unheard of on consoles. That is until you guys entered the scene.

4l3xXx · 17-06-2009, 03:15 PM

Quick question:

Will be possible on PC to buy a copy, install it on our own high-end dedicated server and host our own server from there?

Thanks much!

1Bryce1 · 17-06-2009, 04:03 PM

+1, I made a thread about this but it went untouched by DICE.

Dc5_BuBbLe5 · 17-06-2009, 04:21 PM

Wow thanks for the quick reply. theres another reason why this gamei s going to be GREAT cuz the developpers are getting involved with the community hats off to you. Ya its a shame we cannot have full clan support on here like on bf mc but i can understand

Sibben · 17-06-2009, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Bryce1

+1, I made a thread about this but it went untouched by DICE.

Sorry about that. Sometimes it's a bit random which ones we pick up on or not. We're only hanging around here when we have some free time.

Ronin0ni · 17-06-2009, 04:25 PM

Now that you guys are waiting on cert you have a bit more eh?

Dc5_BuBbLe5 · 17-06-2009, 04:29 PM

ya it just cut me off there but i noticed that there was no reply to the question sibben

If you guys are for sum reason unable to answer it i understand but i see that alot of people are wondering about the same thing.

So what happens to a private server if 1 player out of the 16 disconnects during the game? does it go to orange screen like on bfbc? does it just shutdown all together and we would have to restart the match? or do we keep playin till the end of the round?

thanks again

1Bryce1 · 17-06-2009, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sibben

Sorry about that. Sometimes it's a bit random which ones we pick up on or not. We're only hanging around here when we have some free time.

No problem, I know they get pushed to the bottom quite easily.
Pc server files?

Umm...Sib...did you forget to answer the question? Will PC have the ability to run our own private servers?

Ronin0ni · 17-06-2009, 04:35 PM

LoL, maybe he needs to go ask cause it never came up LOL

I'm telling you though, it's gonna be 16 to START the server, but then it stays alive so long as there are 4

Sibben · 17-06-2009, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dc5_BuBbLe5

ya it just cut me off there but i noticed that there was no reply to the question sibben

If you guys are for sum reason unable to answer it i understand but i see that alot of people are wondering about the same thing.

So what happens to a private server if 1 player out of the 16 disconnects during the game? does it go to orange screen like on bfbc? does it just shutdown all together and we would have to restart the match? or do we keep playin till the end of the round?

thanks again

I believe it stays up. If you really, really want a 4 on 4 and go trough all that trouble to get 16 in and have them leave, by all means, have fun! Our treat.

Dc5_BuBbLe5 · 17-06-2009, 04:39 PM

lol what you are saying would be nice and i hope that the answer is sumthing like that.

Dc5_BuBbLe5 · 17-06-2009, 04:41 PM

good news thanks but no 4v4s for me.

1Bryce1 · 17-06-2009, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4l3xXx

Quick question:
Will be possible on PC to buy a copy, install it on our own high-end dedicated server and host our own server from there?
Thanks much!

I was referring to this question.

Ronin0ni · 17-06-2009, 05:54 PM

The answer to that question is no... it's going to be a minimal download only app... no mod tools, no server files, just the basic client.

PC users are resourceful though, they will create their own mod tools.

as for servers, they might rent some servers as they did with previous BF titles on PC... and I guarantee someone will hack it somehow (for example, there are private, pirated, hacked WoW servers out there) and it's also possible I suppose that they might sell or even give away the software, but since their primary form of anti-piracy is signing into EA servers, it will probably require verification that way still, and it would make it easier for hackers to make their own non-verifying servers if they did, so don't count on it.

Basically, they might rent some, but don't expect them to give, or even sell, the server software itself.

I know my word isn't official (Why do I feel like I need to add this disclaimer now?) but I think it is pretty reasonable. So until DICE gives an official answer, I would say expect what I said

1Bryce1 · 17-06-2009, 08:53 PM

That's what I'm afraid of, over the long run I would expect it to only sell half as much as it would with having server files available. There are a lot of PC gaming communities out there that will pass on 1943 if this happens.

Ronin0ni · 17-06-2009, 09:10 PM

Well, they haven't released any PC details yet... so really we can only guess.

I'm guessing they will rent official servers if people really ask for them. Like I said though, distributing the server software makes pirating easier... they may though (as they have in the past) but for $15 I doubt it will be automatically included. Maybe a $50 complete version or something... and they would prolly be unranked (which shouldn't matter, want ranked, rent one)

4l3xXx · 18-06-2009, 07:38 AM

Well, then I would strongly recommend to STOP guessing and spam the forums with unimportant stuff and discussions, so that our questions won't get overlooked. ;-)

My question wasn't if there are serverfiles, my question was if I can buy a normal retail copy from Steam or whatsoever, install it on our server (which is running BF2, CoD 4&5 and ArmA2 servers already..) - and then HOST a server from there, using a remote tool - I was NOT talking about free serverfiles.

I already know that there will be NO serverfiles available, that's not a problem if I can use a normal gamecopy to host, we even would buy 2-3 copies for that, 15 Euros isn't that much for a game.

Of course one might think "what the heck does he want an own server when Dice offers so many free ones that we can use for clanmatches?" - So what happens when EA or Dice decides to shut down these servers after a while?
Besides this I just want to have control of our own servers, not being dependend on a 3rd party involved.

Got it?

BTW, I think that the guys at Dice do an amazing job and everybody should appreciate the free servers we'll get.

Thanks!

rugerspur · 23-06-2009, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sibben

Battlefield 1943 is a server/client game and not peer-to-peer. That means we set up the servers and pay for them. It's just not possible for us to have an unlimited amount of servers running which means we need to find some balance. So if two chaps start a game just to LOL around that means there is one sever less available for a full set of people who wants to play a proper game. This is the reason we set a 8 vs 8 limit as we still want to provide clans with a possibility to set up their own games.

For a fifteen dollar downloadable game I think that's a pretty fair deal. So does Gordon, and my guess is that that's why he gets a little peeved off when people just demand the moon. I know because it ticks me off a bit too. We're really trying to give you a good game at a decent price point and there are limitations to what we can do.

you already told people you had guys standing around doing nothing(bf3? humm) so they made this game messing around.you decided "hey lets make some money off of it!" so stop talking down to people.gvd for someone in your position you sure fly off the handle easy,very unprofesional like in my opinion.btw when can us pc guys get a pc vid of 1943?

Ronin0ni · 23-06-2009, 05:03 PM

Maybe, just maybe, they get irritatated with people who are complaining about lack of features on a $15 game... I dunno, maybe im just CRAZY or something here, but that would get on my nerves if I put a lot of work into a great game that we would sell for the lowest price ever and people complained that it didn't have EVERYTHING that other full RETAIL games might have

As for the servers dissapearing? R u serious? You do realize that 1942 still has free dedicated servers right? If in 8 years you are still playing 1943, they will still have a few servers running for you, so it's not like you need the ability to host your own server cause they won't have them anymore... that is an invalid complaint. And if $15 for 8 years of gaming isn't enough for you, then I don't know what kind of deal you expect.

spacefox00 · 23-06-2009, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronin0ni

Maybe, just maybe, they get irritatated with people who are complaining about lack of features on a $15 game... I dunno, maybe im just CRAZY or something here, but that would get on my nerves if I put a lot of work into a great game that we would sell for the lowest price ever and people complained that it didn't have EVERYTHING that other full RETAIL games might have

As for the servers dissapearing? R u serious? You do realize that 1942 still has free dedicated servers right? If in 8 years you are still playing 1943, they will still have a few servers running for you, so it's not like you need the ability to host your own server cause they won't have them anymore... that is an invalid complaint. And if $15 for 8 years of gaming isn't enough for you, then I don't know what kind of deal you expect.

Ronin, you win again.

Also, hooray for my topic getting linked to on Planet Battlefield!

Ronin0ni · 23-06-2009, 07:46 PM

shoulda been a lawyer

frag 8 yrs of school though

17-06-2009, 08:45 AM	#129 (permalink)
Sibben DICE Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Age: 38 Posts: 212	For consoles anyone invited can invite and you can not kick players. I vaguely remember there were regulations and/or technical limitations leading to this because my initial design was a bit more stringent. It is however important to remember that Private Matches is supplied as a pretty free form tool for clans and ladders. It is not a full clan support system with but we felt it was better to supply this anyway and people will find good uses with it. __________________ Sebastian Armonioso Lead Designer, Battlefield 1943

17-06-2009, 11:28 AM	#130 (permalink)
HellBeNt187 Forum Guru Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Michigan, USA Gender: Male Posts: 1,080	Thanks Sibben! I know I'm excited about private matches on dedicated servers. I doubt I'll ever use it myself, but it's going to be a real treat for those who do. Server quality like this is unheard of on consoles. That is until you guys entered the scene. __________________ Last edited by HellBeNt187; 17-06-2009 at 11:31 AM..

17-06-2009, 04:03 PM	#132 (permalink)
1Bryce1 Forum Junkie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: "SF Bay Area" San Jose, California Gender: Male Posts: 4,751 Blog Entries: 1	+1, I made a thread about this but it went untouched by DICE. __________________

17-06-2009, 08:53 PM	#144 (permalink)
1Bryce1 Forum Junkie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: "SF Bay Area" San Jose, California Gender: Male Posts: 4,751 Blog Entries: 1	That's what I'm afraid of, over the long run I would expect it to only sell half as much as it would with having server files available. There are a lot of PC gaming communities out there that will pass on 1943 if this happens. __________________

18-06-2009, 07:38 AM	#146 (permalink)
4l3xXx Forum Regular Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Vienna/Austria Age: 39 Gender: Male Posts: 631	Well, then I would strongly recommend to STOP guessing and spam the forums with unimportant stuff and discussions, so that our questions won't get overlooked. ;-) My question wasn't if there are serverfiles, my question was if I can buy a normal retail copy from Steam or whatsoever, install it on our server (which is running BF2, CoD 4&5 and ArmA2 servers already..) - and then HOST a server from there, using a remote tool - I was NOT talking about free serverfiles. I already know that there will be NO serverfiles available, that's not a problem if I can use a normal gamecopy to host, we even would buy 2-3 copies for that, 15 Euros isn't that much for a game. Of course one might think "what the heck does he want an own server when Dice offers so many free ones that we can use for clanmatches?" - So what happens when EA or Dice decides to shut down these servers after a while? Besides this I just want to have control of our own servers, not being dependend on a 3rd party involved. Got it? BTW, I think that the guys at Dice do an amazing job and everybody should appreciate the free servers we'll get. Thanks! Last edited by 4l3xXx; 18-06-2009 at 07:47 AM..

17-06-2009, 12:22 AM	#126 (permalink)
Ronin0ni Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cali. In the United States of No More Rights Posts: 12,014	LOL, you'd get it anyways I'm thinking the "host" would have the ability to kick... that would be my best guess.

17-06-2009, 01:45 AM	#127 (permalink)
Studio Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 981	trust me...if you get in a room of 11 people who do not want you there... you're probably gonna leave lol peace B

17-06-2009, 03:16 AM	#128 (permalink)
Dc5_BuBbLe5 Rookie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5	I agree completly with 16 players needed to make a private match we dont need any goofs makin servers for them and a buddy to kill each other with while clans cant open a server. And because the maps are bigger on 1943 then on for example bf modern combat where 4v4 clan battles could be played where the players still see alot of action on conquest we cannot have 8 player rooms. If you played bfbc conquest you would know that 10 man rooms are close to unplayable. Also dedicated servers are much better then p2p servers because all players will be on the same playing field instead the host having a major advantage over everyone else. Hate to be repetitive but if you played cod 4/5 or gears you know what i am talking about. Like others on here, i am wondering what would happen to the server if 1 out of the 16 ppl leave? But other then that i know alot of ppl are excited to play this and have the option to make a private match so for that i thank you.

17-06-2009, 03:15 PM	#131 (permalink)
4l3xXx Forum Regular Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Vienna/Austria Age: 39 Gender: Male Posts: 631	Quick question: Will be possible on PC to buy a copy, install it on our own high-end dedicated server and host our own server from there? Thanks much!

17-06-2009, 04:21 PM	#133 (permalink)
Dc5_BuBbLe5 Rookie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5	Wow thanks for the quick reply. theres another reason why this gamei s going to be GREAT cuz the developpers are getting involved with the community hats off to you. Ya its a shame we cannot have full clan support on here like on bf mc but i can understand

17-06-2009, 04:25 PM	#135 (permalink)
Ronin0ni Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cali. In the United States of No More Rights Posts: 12,014	Now that you guys are waiting on cert you have a bit more eh?

17-06-2009, 04:29 PM	#136 (permalink)
Dc5_BuBbLe5 Rookie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5	ya it just cut me off there but i noticed that there was no reply to the question sibben If you guys are for sum reason unable to answer it i understand but i see that alot of people are wondering about the same thing. So what happens to a private server if 1 player out of the 16 disconnects during the game? does it go to orange screen like on bfbc? does it just shutdown all together and we would have to restart the match? or do we keep playin till the end of the round? thanks again

17-06-2009, 04:35 PM	#138 (permalink)
Ronin0ni Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cali. In the United States of No More Rights Posts: 12,014	LoL, maybe he needs to go ask cause it never came up LOL I'm telling you though, it's gonna be 16 to START the server, but then it stays alive so long as there are 4

17-06-2009, 04:39 PM	#140 (permalink)
Dc5_BuBbLe5 Rookie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5	lol what you are saying would be nice and i hope that the answer is sumthing like that.

17-06-2009, 04:41 PM	#141 (permalink)
Dc5_BuBbLe5 Rookie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5	good news thanks but no 4v4s for me.

17-06-2009, 05:54 PM	#143 (permalink)
Ronin0ni Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cali. In the United States of No More Rights Posts: 12,014	The answer to that question is no... it's going to be a minimal download only app... no mod tools, no server files, just the basic client. PC users are resourceful though, they will create their own mod tools. as for servers, they might rent some servers as they did with previous BF titles on PC... and I guarantee someone will hack it somehow (for example, there are private, pirated, hacked WoW servers out there) and it's also possible I suppose that they might sell or even give away the software, but since their primary form of anti-piracy is signing into EA servers, it will probably require verification that way still, and it would make it easier for hackers to make their own non-verifying servers if they did, so don't count on it. Basically, they might rent some, but don't expect them to give, or even sell, the server software itself. I know my word isn't official (Why do I feel like I need to add this disclaimer now?) but I think it is pretty reasonable. So until DICE gives an official answer, I would say expect what I said

17-06-2009, 09:10 PM	#145 (permalink)
Ronin0ni Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cali. In the United States of No More Rights Posts: 12,014	Well, they haven't released any PC details yet... so really we can only guess. I'm guessing they will rent official servers if people really ask for them. Like I said though, distributing the server software makes pirating easier... they may though (as they have in the past) but for $15 I doubt it will be automatically included. Maybe a $50 complete version or something... and they would prolly be unranked (which shouldn't matter, want ranked, rent one)

23-06-2009, 05:03 PM	#148 (permalink)
Ronin0ni Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cali. In the United States of No More Rights Posts: 12,014	Maybe, just maybe, they get irritatated with people who are complaining about lack of features on a $15 game... I dunno, maybe im just CRAZY or something here, but that would get on my nerves if I put a lot of work into a great game that we would sell for the lowest price ever and people complained that it didn't have EVERYTHING that other full RETAIL games might have As for the servers dissapearing? R u serious? You do realize that 1942 still has free dedicated servers right? If in 8 years you are still playing 1943, they will still have a few servers running for you, so it's not like you need the ability to host your own server cause they won't have them anymore... that is an invalid complaint. And if $15 for 8 years of gaming isn't enough for you, then I don't know what kind of deal you expect.

23-06-2009, 07:46 PM	#150 (permalink)
Ronin0ni Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cali. In the United States of No More Rights Posts: 12,014	shoulda been a lawyer frag 8 yrs of school though