16 people to start a private match!?

[Symonator]

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[davyg19788]

Originally Posted by djsy2008

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thankya

[CrossyX]

Tbh i am really happy with this decision. First of all i was not expecting any sort of private games due to the lack of it in Bad Company. No clan support and small groups (4) is what stopped our clan from playing Bad Company after the first couple of months of release, it was just to hard to get a full team playing together in the same match. I just hope there is more on the way of clan support in the near future, leaderboards, stats etc like Modern Combat

I think for the price it is excellent value for money, plus there is only a handfull of developers that interact with there customers, so thanks again.

CrossyX

[GordonVanDyke]

Forgot to mention we support Xbox 360 Parties, hope that helps too.

[MySights]

Originally Posted by GordonVanDyke

Forgot to mention we support Xbox 360 Parties, hope that helps too.

Thankyou Gordon! I have been wanting to know this for ages. It is good to hear it will support parties. Makes things so much easier.

[Nitr0g3n1x]

Originally Posted by GordonVanDyke

I'll look into all these question this week to make sure I get the details correct.

It's unranked which has nothing to do with the player limit if you'd take a moment to read. Once you add a clan of 8 and another clan of 8 you get 16! OMG, that means they can have a match! And I hope they're better at playing than your arithmetic!

Thank you for replying, but I think you missed my point(my fault, I didnt explain.) Im saying 8 a side is too big a number for some clans. What happens to these guys? Do they just have to expand or die?

[o-_I3LaCkRoSe_-o]

Hey. @GVD or Sibben. I don't see an answer to this question yet but.. what happens when you get your 16 for a private server and one has to go and leaves. Orange screen? Does it still let you play? Also kind of wondering the same about public, like in BFBC you needed 4 to start and get out of the orange screen. Is this the same? Thanks.

[IceViper777]

This is pretty disapointing for those of us that were just looking to goof around and fly and stuff together. I guess the tutorial will have to work for practicing.

[CrossyX]

You have to look at the bigger picture, it is not cost effective to make servers for people just to goof around in with the price of the game being pretty low. If they charged for the servers so people could mess about in then there would be uproar from people saying we are already paying for the game why should we pay for servers.

Just be happy it is there at all, as i said earlier Bad Company was ruined for lack of clan support and the inability to play private matches.

[Ronin0ni]

Originally Posted by Nitr0g3n1x

Thank you for replying, but I think you missed my point(my fault, I didnt explain.) Im saying 8 a side is too big a number for some clans. What happens to these guys? Do they just have to expand or die?

If your clan can't field only 8 god damn people IMO, you aren't a clan.

Really a clan should be able to field 12 for any scheduled match no problem... you schedule 12 players and 4 reserve players...

a clan should have 20 people minimum, otherwise they are still forming.

so yes, they need to expand or die.

Gamebattles usually requires full teams too I believe, meaning if you want to partake in the Clan Ladder, you need to be able to field 12 man teams, or fight with fewer people against a 12 man team

[Ronin0ni]

Originally Posted by IceViperTh7

This is pretty disapointing for those of us that were just looking to goof around and fly and stuff together. I guess the tutorial will have to work for practicing.

If you want to fly, Coral Sea will be unlocked in 1-2 weeks per their estimate. (using figures from BFBC, which 1943 will probably outsell)

If you want to goof around, play in a standard unranked match

[digimonk42o]

Originally Posted by Ronin0ni

If your clan can't field only 8 god damn people IMO, you aren't a clan.

Really a clan should be able to field 12 for any scheduled match no problem... you schedule 12 players and 4 reserve players...

a clan should have 20 people minimum, otherwise they are still forming.

so yes, they need to expand or die.

Gamebattles usually requires full teams too I believe, meaning if you want to partake in the Clan Ladder, you need to be able to field 12 man teams, or fight with fewer people against a 12 man team

Only problem is that most clans are just 4 dudes that own on noobs and think they are god's gift to battlefield. Since BC has no way to track how good you actually are at the game. They can say they are a clan.

Originally Posted by Ronin0ni

If you want to fly, Coral Sea will be unlocked in 1-2 weeks per their estimate. (using figures from BFBC, which 1943 will probably outsell)

If you want to goof around, play in a standard unranked match

Or go thru the flight practice over and over again.

[Ronin0ni]

then they aren't a clan, they are 4 friends who squad together and play random public games... they are lucky that they can't field a full team cause any real clan would stomp them


lalalala, I see them in BFBC all the time, they all suck

Most of them use every exploit they can too, funny thing is they suck at it. I beat out a glitching squad of 4 "clan" members not long ago. They arty glitched the whole time, mortar glitched the crates, and QSed like crazy...

I ended up grabbing my bolt action rifle and showed them what it meant to be recon

[digimonk42o]

Originally Posted by Ronin0ni

then they aren't a clan, they are 4 friends who squad together and play random public games... they are lucky that they can't field a full team cause any real clan would stomp them


lalalala, I see them in BFBC all the time, they all suck

truth.

[Ronin0ni]

Anyone QQing about not being able to create a private 4 man server game so they can goof around is simply a whiny, erm, female dog Would you be willing to pay even $50 a month for that server so you could do that? No, I didn't think so (and believe me, they cost A LOT more than $50 a month... my #1 clients web server costs them $2k at Rackspace.com, EA has their own server farms, so their cost per server is much lower, but still more than $50 a month just in power usage)

Also, to people QQing about in game ads... this is why, they have to justify these server costs somehow... be glad they are outsorcing the costs to advertisers so you don't have to foot the bill (ala most MMORPGS with monthly sub fees)

[Killzone_Kid]

Originally Posted by Ronin0ni

Anyone QQing about not being able to create a private 4 man server game so they can goof around is simply a whiny, erm, female dog Would you be willing to pay even $50 a month for that server so you could do that? No, I didn't think so (and believe me, they cost A LOT more than $50 a month... my #1 clients web server costs them $2k at Rackspace.com, EA has their own server farms, so their cost per server is much lower, but still more than $50 a month just in power usage)

Also, to people QQing about in game ads... this is why, they have to justify these server costs somehow... be glad they are outsorcing the costs to advertisers so you don't have to foot the bill (ala most MMORPGS with monthly sub fees)

So you reckon EA is losing money on BFBC since it is longer lasting than your average EA game? I suppose the decision to make BFBC2 was made just so that they can take us off BFBC servers. It will be the same game only better, so they can justify moving BFBC servers over to BFBC2, hence ultimately shutting down BFBC and saving money?

[Nitr0g3n1x]

Originally Posted by Ronin0ni

If your clan can't field only 8 god damn people IMO, you aren't a clan.

Really a clan should be able to field 12 for any scheduled match no problem... you schedule 12 players and 4 reserve players...

a clan should have 20 people minimum, otherwise they are still forming.

so yes, they need to expand or die.

Gamebattles usually requires full teams too I believe, meaning if you want to partake in the Clan Ladder, you need to be able to field 12 man teams, or fight with fewer people against a 12 man team

Let me use SiC as an exmaple, one of the best PS3 clans and they have 7 members.

[Seeker03]

Gang is the ....what's the word...better word for 7 players

[Ronin0ni]

BF2:MC still has servers running... granted very few... but yah. Basically, pumping out a new game every year is a part of the EA business model.

$60 a year, of $5 a month for a game really isn't that much... and if it comes with a slew of upgrades, new maps, bug fixes, additional content etc, I think it's actually worth it.

Compare the change from BFBC to BFBC2 to the change between NCAA2008 to NCAA2009

I'd say were gettin a better deal than EA sports fans LOL

Halo on the other hand uses DLC to fuel it's business. The game on the whole stays the same, and they get $10 from all 10mil players every 3-4 months. They keep the game bug free, but otherwise they don't get new weapons, vehicles, etc. Additionally, Halo3 still costs like $50. They are finally getting a new game (ODST) after years.

so it's pros and cons to the 2 business models.... I'd prefer a happy medium, new games more often than say the Halo series, but a bit better support than in the case of EA. Though really, I only have a complaint against the kit swap and arty glitches, which I have no idea how hard it is to fix that. It is quite possible that it is simply unrealistic for them to do it. (in terms of how long it would take, and the size of the patch)

Also, bear in mind that having a smaller player base (only 1.5 mil sold) means that DLC is FAR FAR FAR less profitable.

I got the DLC for GOW2 (the free one in the box, but used buyers wouldnt get it) and I rarely saw those maps on Horde mode. I never even considered buying the 2 map packs cause I knew I would NEVER see them in horde mode if the free one was barely around. why waste my money?

It's like the add-ons for BF2... they were a waste, noone played them for long.

Expansions simply don't work as well as retail games in most cases, unless you have a VERY hardy fan base (ie; WoW, Halo)

[Ronin0ni]

Originally Posted by Nitr0g3n1x

Let me use SiC as an exmaple, one of the best PS3 clans and they have 7 members.

If they wan't to participate in Gamebattles, they need to be able to field 12 players. NEED to.

Gamebattles doesn't take excuses for being picky with members.

I don't even think you can register with only 7 players

So yah, they need to grow, or accept the fact that they can't participate.

[lordofthejewsjr]

man ronin, your responses simply OWN man. you must be good in real life arguing lol.

[Ronin0ni]

I would have become a lawyer if it wasn't for all the required schooling... I hate school

I'm a self taught web programmer

but yah, I win most arguments... Helps I have a loud deep voice that simply stomps out most other people HAHA.

Best ever, I don't even remember what the argument was about anymore (was like 8 years ago) But someone said something, I disagreed with him and argued for like, 20-30 min... finally he conceeded.... so I argued a 3rd point. After another 30 minutes I got him to accept that nothing is concrete. I even got into philosophical lala... I think at one point my argument was that if you can't prove that *something i forgot what, it was relevant* exists, then you can't prove anything, therefore, you cannot prove me wrong!


If I could get the judge and jury drunk... I'd never lose in court

[talemyn]

Originally Posted by o-_I3LaCkRoSe_-o

Hey. @GVD or Sibben. I don't see an answer to this question yet but.. what happens when you get your 16 for a private server and one has to go and leaves. Orange screen? Does it still let you play? Also kind of wondering the same about public, like in BFBC you needed 4 to start and get out of the orange screen. Is this the same? Thanks.

Even more important (because it happens so often) is what happens if you have people who lose their connection to Xbox Live or get a locked system or something like that mid-game and it drops the count below the 16 person minimum?

[o-_I3LaCkRoSe_-o]

Originally Posted by talemyn

Even more important (because it happens so often) is what happens if you have people who lose their connection to Xbox Live or get a locked system or something like that mid-game and it drops the count below the 16 person minimum?

Exactly, thats what I am wondering.

[talemyn]

Originally Posted by o-_I3LaCkRoSe_-o

Exactly, thats what I am wondering.

Ah . . . thought you meant like if someone dropped out of a group of 16 after a bunch of matches and wondering if you can continue on with 15 or do you have to go grab someone in order to continue on to the next match.

Though I suppose they are both good questions, actually.