Message to the PC Gamer(s) Following BF1943's Development

[GordonVanDyke]

Dear PC Gamer(s),

I know you might feel disappointed about the PC release being in September rather than June, but you should be very happy to know this is to give us the proper development time to create a proper PC version of Battlefield 1943 and not a console port. To the contrary of some less informed fans out there this is in no means an intentional ploy to punish our PC fans. And is in fact quite the opposite, we want to make the best damn PC version we can for our PC fans!

Not to bore your eyes out with endless text about the how's and do's I will say to make this a proper PC version we need a completed core game to develop over and remember we already released Battlefield Bad Company with the Frostbite Engine on the consoles, so this will be first PC game ever released using Frostbite! PCs are an open platform requiring additional features, support, technical consideration, and can't just be thrown out there using copy/paste. We have thought very carefully about this decision and in the long run felt it was the right choice even though we knew we'd catch some flak for it, but we feel once you play the first Frostbite PC game ever from DICE you'll see why we put this extra time and care in on the development making all right again in the universe. I hope this helps clear things up better and answers your concern(s).

Sincerely,

Gordon Van Dyke
Battlefield 1943 Producer

[LionQ]

Good news - in the long run.

[rich7733]

great news for the PC gamers IMO..

[DavoliSabres]

The numbers are going to talk.

[Sl1p3tr43m]

still seems to be going to consoles and not PC's.

[jonneymendoza]

sorry but i think the real reason is because they are afraid that piracy will effect consoel sales big time.

why? because a typical customer who has a console and a pc will ask themselves umm, shall i buy teh game on the console or shall i get the "free" PC version?

this is what capcom are doing to there games. delaying the pc release untill they recoop profits from teh console sales. genius if you ask me

[WDAOPTIMUS]

Originally Posted by GordonVanDyke

Dear PC Gamer(s),

I know you might feel disappointed about the PC release being in September rather than June, but you should be very happy to know this is to give us the proper development time to create a proper PC version of Battlefield 1943 and not a console port. To the contrary of some less informed fans out there this is in no means an intentional ploy to punish our PC fans. And is in fact quite the opposite, we want to make the best damn PC version we can for our PC fans!

Not to bore your eyes out with endless text about the how's and do's I will say to make this a proper PC version we need a completed core game to develop over and remember we already released Battlefield Bad Company with the Frostbite Engine on the consoles, so this will be first PC game ever released using Frostbite! PCs are an open platform requiring additional features, support, technical consideration, and can't just be thrown out there using copy/paste. We have thought very carefully about this decision and in the long run felt it was the right choice even though we knew we'd catch some flak for it, but we feel once you play the first Frostbite PC game ever from DICE you'll see why we put this extra time and care in on the development making all right again in the universe. I hope this helps clear things up better and answers your concern(s).

Sincerely,

Gordon Van Dyke
Battlefield 1943 Producer

Originally Posted by link

Battlefield 1943 rages on consoles in June
A PC edition of the game will follow in September

A very proper title don’t you think? I have some questions and comments sir. First off I understand you’re getting ****ed with the PC players, and I seen the comment about hijacking threads. So it’s nice to see that you have addressed the situation with a real and formal title. As a PC player and active member of this community for 4 plus years now I’ve seen a lot admins and mods come and go. Must were spineless and ran away when times got tough. It’s good to see Gordon you do have some FORTITUDE about you! Because you’re going to need it in the up coming months as PC players will not be happy about the 3 month later release. All most see are the consoles getting theirs first and we get the staff once again. Or so it looks, but what will be nice is if you guys can give us some info so far here’s what is known about the PC version. _________. Nothing…

We don’t know server costs, player count, maps, or if PB (SUCKS personal rant set aside on this issue) will be in the game. Will it cost more? With this 3 month delay will this be a full game? What perks we may get or not get. I know your answer already, “I can’t comment on that” but you have to throw us something. You can’t keep shutting us out with no info at all and expect us to come back you think that’s right?

I know you want to get this right, I know your background, I for one am very happy you’re in charge cause if not I’d like a bull dog on acid. Please take what I’m saying and think it over. I know there is just a little info you can provide us that will show the PC community why it’s taking longer, but it will be worth it.

For the love of god don’t put that FALCON junk in the game! I’ live in CA so I know where the EA HQ I’ll drive over and beat you down myself!
Btw can you make your accounment a STICKY so you want have a rantfest. Just an idea.

[jonneymendoza]

Well said

[WDAOPTIMUS]

Originally Posted by jonneymendoza

Well said

Ty sir.

[Cowwie60]

Originally Posted by jonneymendoza

sorry but i think the real reason is because they are afraid that piracy will effect consoel sales big time.

why? because a typical customer who has a console and a pc will ask themselves umm, shall i buy teh game on the console or shall i get the "free" PC version?

this is what capcom are doing to there games. delaying the pc release untill they recoop profits from teh console sales. genius if you ask me

could you do your fanboy pc bashing routine in another thread please.

[Cowwie60]

Sucks to hear it will come out later for pcs but if indeed comes out better for it, im sure the rational pc owners out there will love dice more for putting alittle extra love and attention into the pc version.

[Sl1p3tr43m]

Dude its not about the extra love and attention (although no one can complain about that as we all love it do you not think that the drip drip drip feed of information to PC owners and players is what is really getting backs up? Then just when you think we are getting a slice of the action its the consoles that are being put first! Just look at the ranting on the patch 1.50 thread to see how people get totally absorbed by all of this!

[WDAOPTIMUS]

Originally Posted by Sl1p3tr43m

Dude its not about the extra love and attention (although no one can complain about that as we all love it do you not think that the drip drip drip feed of information to PC owners and players is what is really getting backs up? Then just when you think we are getting a slice of the action its the consoles that are being put first! Just look at the ranting on the patch 1.50 thread to see how people get totally absorbed by all of this!

1.5 is EPIC... I'll leave it at that.

[Codex0]

as long as frostbite implements a demo recording feature with first person view no worries. (If not for 1943 at least bc2)

otherwise

RAGE

[M0t0rBreath89]

PC version is not free. I'm siked thou, it'll be a great game. Lets give the Devs positive criticism so they can make this game bad***

[Codex0]

Originally Posted by M0t0rBreath89

PC version is not free. I'm siked thou, it'll be a great game. Lets give the Devs positive criticism so they can make this game bad***

It was never free, at any point.

Remove unlimited ammo and regenerating health? lol don't see it happening some how, just as long as it isnt in bc2

[pahkiller]

Originally Posted by GordonVanDyke

Dear PC Gamer(s),

I know you might feel disappointed about the PC release being in September rather than June, but you should be very happy to know this is to give us the proper development time to create a proper PC version of Battlefield 1943 and not a console port. To the contrary of some less informed fans out there this is in no means an intentional ploy to punish our PC fans. And is in fact quite the opposite, we want to make the best damn PC version we can for our PC fans!

Not to bore your eyes out with endless text about the how's and do's I will say to make this a proper PC version we need a completed core game to develop over and remember we already released Battlefield Bad Company with the Frostbite Engine on the consoles, so this will be first PC game ever released using Frostbite! PCs are an open platform requiring additional features, support, technical consideration, and can't just be thrown out there using copy/paste. We have thought very carefully about this decision and in the long run felt it was the right choice even though we knew we'd catch some flak for it, but we feel once you play the first Frostbite PC game ever from DICE you'll see why we put this extra time and care in on the development making all right again in the universe. I hope this helps clear things up better and answers your concern(s).

Sincerely,

Gordon Van Dyke
Battlefield 1943 Producer

Gordon Nice one
I as you know am a hardcore PC Gamer but At least you grab the bull by the horns and go for it In which I admire
I don't have a problem waiting especially if its for the pc and frostbite engine.
Just 1 question
Will there be a demo release for the pc I have tested many programs and as a programmer myself love to test (believe it or not)
anyway thanks for the info

[gimp0]

gief more maps wanna see bocage and battleaxe

[Codex0]

Hai gaiz @ DICE

Please add ability for me to grab people on my team and use them as meat shields

that is all

:P

[flatfroggerx]

Okay, so people have probably been waiting on the lines for me to make a comment considering this thread was probably made because of me (either that or my ego is stretching its legs).

First up i'll get the fodder out the way:

Originally Posted by jonneymendoza

sorry but i think the real reason is because they are afraid that piracy will effect consoel sales big time.
... snip...

Do you realise what you are saying here? A downloadable ONLINE ONLY MULTIPLAYER game which requires a valid serial key (like every EA game has required), if you don't well then... you don't get multiplayer unless you end up on cracked servers with no cheat protection at all therefore making the game 100% unplayable due to cheats. I doubt its anything to do with piracy if it is I have some very nasty choice words in store for the EA bigwig who thought of that, probably the same one who thought DRM is an issue too. But again I doubt it is.

Also FYI: capcom don't employ this strategy however Ubisoft do, then again ubisoft are absolute idiots over piracy and their lalalala ports don't sell well and so they end up blaming it on piracy.

Seriously though the the whole piracy thing is going way off topic.
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Now in general, theres been too much hostility against us PC Gamers, while most of the PC Gamers are still swarming over BF2/2142 boards, those games alone have probably lived way longer than DICE would have expected, its why I suspect the latest patch has been so long in the coming. Its not often you get a game which runs for 4+ years, only valve has had that sort of stuff going.

I'll admit I probably haven't helped after that marathon thread but still, theres been too much presumptuous slander against us, most started off by roninoni and co. I seriously haven't seen any unreasonable threads asking absurd or special requirements about the PC version. Optmius made most of the reasonable threads asking stuff like server costing, punkbuster, theres been a few about DD etc. So far there has been ZERO PC answers unless they overlapped greatly into the console arena. When a thread does pop up what happens? We get a console fanboy bashing fest going because theyre complaining we are whining about something. Well so sorry console muppets for having a greatly varied more flexible not a one trick pony box, these are things which have to be asked unlike spamming the forums over voice comms.

I agree with optimus again over remark about posting in wrong threads, theres been far more off topic posting than the ones I did yesterday and more so I responded to remarks made by console fanboys taking a bash. TBH i think its taking the micheal a bit specifically telling us to get out of the thread.

We've had ZERO info to go on and it looks like we won't have any for quite a while now, if that was the case why not just say it from the start?

I mean sure you want the best version to be put out as does the end user whoever that ends up to be, but seriously, 3 months springing from out of the blue? Especially with not a sniff of info for us to ride on? Do you really not see where at least SOME of the backlash is coming from here?

I mean okay lets go back from the top, we have a game which is extremely simplified from what we are used to and is aimed primarily at consoles so you immediately have people concerned that the game people are used to is taking a turn for the worst.
Theres then talk the PC version is meant to be its "own version" yet theres no info to ride with this at all, we're stuck with console info and wonder how the PC version is going to go from there.
Then you have a group of people *****ing and being hostile about there being a PC version and drawing PC players.

I'm also finding it hard to believe DICE are only just encountering issues with frostbite on PC's, I mean what did you code most of it on before it split off to 360 and PS3 builds? Considering comments in the past have gone on to say the future of PC battlefields is with frostbite too, all that time for no work to be done? I suspicious of it but perhaps thats not a comment for now? I dunno.

I have to admit I WAS getting pretty hyped about the game due to 2009's rather bland line up, even with the great lack of info given our way. But now i seriously don't see the point because as I've said many times already: The board is being over run with console fanboys and now the game is miles off.

In retrospect thinking back it is a bit odd it suffers the same 3 months delay mirrors edge suffered, at the start of this post I said it probably wasn't due to piracy but again this 3 month gap appears... If the same gap appears for BC2 (which lets face it probably will) then you are 100% correct johnny.

With regards to hostility too, there was a request for split boards and the majority of consolers said no, people even got infractions for posting why there should be split boards and its this kind of hostility I predicted would happen, now the delay is just helping fuel it. If you don't want us about just say and we'll go disappear back off to the BF2/2142 forums where can suffer with the dilapidated state of the games hoping for better times on may 12 2012.

Anyway to close off:
I understand you want a positive environment hyping up the game, get some great marketing going and sure you expected flak and you want the best game going, as do we, honestly. But perhaps most of us wouldn't be so pessimistic and some what negatively to the news of the delay when quite frankly we've had nothing to go on, we're sat here being penalised for asking relative questions which causes threads to go off topic. Its also some what of a trend for the gaming industry that games are ending up sloppy second PC ports then we get DRM because idiot corp suits want to claw every bit of control over our purchase. Granted you are probably limited to what can be said but at least cut us some slack somewhere.

Normally when stuff like this happens its a delay and bam its an extra 5-10 bux on the the price tag, look at capcom games from xbla, look at braid before Jonathan blow decided to give us a break, etc theres countless more examples and then we have the whole rubbish with EA Store and their stupid download policy and stuff along with DRM, etc.

We're not idiots and this is the whole reason I hate hype, just don't treat us like idiots without us battlefield wouldn't even be as big to go as far as getting to this point.

(Apologises for long post I played l4d inbetween while thinking about what to put here and added to it and didn't notice until the end, many thanks if you read it all)

[ebevan91]

I hope the leave the unlimited ammo/health in the console version and givse us PC gamers a real game.

[WDAOPTIMUS]

Originally Posted by flatfroggerx

Amen!! Great freaking post!

[rich7733]

^^^^^^lol where do you get all these little pictures funny as hell

[WDAOPTIMUS]

Originally Posted by rich7733

^^^^^^lol where do you get all these little pictures funny as hell

I host them at imageshack.

Some I make like this one

[LionQ]

Originally Posted by flatfroggerx

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Read it all, agreed to it all.