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frank120 · 07-01-2009, 06:58 PM

This is the first year I haven't bought PES, I played the demo and it felt wooden and having invested in a PS3 and an HD TV last year mainly on the fact that I wanted the "full fat" PS3 PES 2008 and not just an PS2 update, I was not happy with the bowl of curdled milk it turned out to be (to continue the metaphor.). It was shockingly bad. It was still more responsive that fifa 08 on the PS3, which was sluggish, but overall pes 2008 was a major let down.

What I do miss about PES are the subtleties. For instance, in master league (equivalent of MM) the COM wouldn't always put out the default first 11 like fifa seems to do, subject to injuries or suspensions.

Because it has player form arrows, it would use more squad members and force you to do the same. Also due to stamina issues (which it wouldn't always get the balance right) you would have to think about resting players for upcoming games or risk taking them off early to preserve them a bit. After a season or so in MM you can pretty much play the same 11 all the time without any worries.

Also when it put on an extra striker it would alter the COMs formation to accommodate the player. Fifa often swaps a defender for an extra striker but then plays him at the back in a straight swap. I played Fulham last night who brought Dempsey on for Hangeland and did just this.

Finally, in pes, as players have different types of growth, some players will get to a certain age and stop developing and even decline before the end of their careers forcing you to move players out and replace them. Also players would announce plans to retire at the end of the season forcing you to again look for replacements. I don't know if this happens in fifa MM because I've only got as far as 4 seasons before I suffered the MM bug and had to start again.

Some of these thing may be down to the licensing restrictions in fifa but they are the things I miss from PES. But at the moment Fifa is the better game... otherwise I wouldn't be here. I do wilalalala had a proper "slow" speed. I though fifa 08 was a good setting for slow even if it wasn't everyone's cup of tea as the only option. Slow mode this year seems to me what normal should be. Since it isn't, playing on fast must be a blur.

07-01-2009, 06:58 PM	#36 (permalink)
frank120 Rookie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 207	This is the first year I haven't bought PES, I played the demo and it felt wooden and having invested in a PS3 and an HD TV last year mainly on the fact that I wanted the "full fat" PS3 PES 2008 and not just an PS2 update, I was not happy with the bowl of curdled milk it turned out to be (to continue the metaphor.). It was shockingly bad. It was still more responsive that fifa 08 on the PS3, which was sluggish, but overall pes 2008 was a major let down. What I do miss about PES are the subtleties. For instance, in master league (equivalent of MM) the COM wouldn't always put out the default first 11 like fifa seems to do, subject to injuries or suspensions. Because it has player form arrows, it would use more squad members and force you to do the same. Also due to stamina issues (which it wouldn't always get the balance right) you would have to think about resting players for upcoming games or risk taking them off early to preserve them a bit. After a season or so in MM you can pretty much play the same 11 all the time without any worries. Also when it put on an extra striker it would alter the COMs formation to accommodate the player. Fifa often swaps a defender for an extra striker but then plays him at the back in a straight swap. I played Fulham last night who brought Dempsey on for Hangeland and did just this. Finally, in pes, as players have different types of growth, some players will get to a certain age and stop developing and even decline before the end of their careers forcing you to move players out and replace them. Also players would announce plans to retire at the end of the season forcing you to again look for replacements. I don't know if this happens in fifa MM because I've only got as far as 4 seasons before I suffered the MM bug and had to start again. Some of these thing may be down to the licensing restrictions in fifa but they are the things I miss from PES. But at the moment Fifa is the better game... otherwise I wouldn't be here. I do wilalalala had a proper "slow" speed. I though fifa 08 was a good setting for slow even if it wasn't everyone's cup of tea as the only option. Slow mode this year seems to me what normal should be. Since it isn't, playing on fast must be a blur.