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Rockba · 06-12-2008, 09:42 AM

OK, i dont know how official this list is but i guess if its *official*, then EA should have a look at it so i would want to be very critical, as i love FIFA 09, and i only want FIFA 10 to be the best. As usual, the top priority should be gameplay before any manager mode

, ( i know some really were dissapointed with it this year) or online modes. So Ill just make my comments critical on everything concerning the gameplay
Gameplay-Let me first say that there is something i dont know if ea has fully reaslized yet, but its the little things that make a good game. ingame animations and cutscens. yes, they did a good job here but much is still to be done. Instead of all those ridiculous cutscenes , take a look at pes for example, better use realistic ingame animations which i believe uses less disk space. Watch TV matches, those scenes never happen when a ref gives a card, its like its some hollywood movie filmed from a weird angle. When a player shoots wide, he should kick the grass ingame or cover his face with his shirt. if he shot and fell down and missed he can situp, pull up his socks and get a hand up from a team mate,i mean believe me this make the game more believable.When the ball goes out, the player should go pick it up and wipe it on his shirt, i mean i see that all the time. A simulation is not only about how the gameplays but also what goes on that makes it feel like its a football match. The entrance scenes are not bad but they are below par. For me it ruins the excitement before a match.Where are the refs before the players exit the tunnels? add him with his officials holding the flags, while he holds the ball. Lets see a player or two in the crowd shouting out, waving flags, i mean again i would say just look at pes 09 for entrance scenes to get wat im saying. Even the aspect of controlled celebrations should have an option to be switched off. Most look ridiculous. Id rather have anelka score and do his trade mark butterfly INGAME, or have Campbell run at the crowd in excitement in game. i know i keep saying this but look at pes 09, it does an excellent job in TV representation. A player scores a goal and starts running and his team mate pulls him down ingame before the camera zooms in.
The Touchline Coaches and subs- Another issue that i had with fifa 08, which part has been solved in 09 is the touch line. Wheres the coach or the reserve team box? this is necessary trust me. You could use real coach faces for may be only CL teams and genric faces for the rest. How good would it be if wen u change your tactics u could see Arsene wenger at the touch line shouting out words at his youngsters and makin signs, or a player warming up for a sub. And talking ablout subs, they have the worst cutscenes. We should have the fourth official holding up the board with the sub waiting to enter i mean realistic cutscenes should not be that hard to get.
Long rangers -Now there can be nothing as spectacular as a well placed cracker from a player like Stevie G (captain fantastic) into a top corner from 35 yards out. how can fifa be a simulation without this. Watch the prem league or something, they are frequent enough, belletti style. But in this game, i dont know if its the shots which balloon away too often (the ball weight in fia08 feels very right,it feels heavy enough) or its the GKs who are too good.
Goalies- And yes the GK logic has been rewritten but they just cant be beaten from distance which makes them feel superhuman. GKs ARE HUMAN! They should be caught unawares at times, or sometimes just watch a well placed FK dash into the top corner and start blaming the wall. Also as if beating them from far was not a problem enough, its a problem at close when you want to round them up torres style. They should be easier to round up like in pes 09. I know sometomes u can use those complex skills to get past them on one-on-one, but it should not only be that way.
Beating the AI players -But then this is where theres another problem. Getting past the AI players. Its close to impossible to beating players by dribbling past them, u have to use skill moves which take some time too. Players should have closer ball control and should be able to beat defenders realistically. This problem i feel comes from the ease with which tackles are made. Just holding the X or A button (PS3 or 360) makes the tackling very easy. the defender just stands in your way and tackles, NO! In real life the defenders run back while trying to get your pace and then the attacker has to change pace at times to beat the defender, but i think this just a problem with the tackling system, which makes it too easy to get the ball.
Dribbling animation-My next problem is the dribbling animation. Some are good, but the change of direction animation DOES NOT look realistic and sometimes the player stretch out weirdly. Please change the dribbling animations!
Set pieces and quick FK-Theres also something about the set peices. Tall defenders SHOULD go up for corner kicks, look sat hyppia or vidic for example, thats how they get their goals! FIFA 10 would do very well to have a setpiece editor where you can plan out how many players go for a corner kick or the 2nd fk man etc. And y is there no quick free kick rule, I mean this will keep the pace of the game rather than stopping the game unnecesarily allowing subs which waste even more time. PUT QUICK FREE KICKS!
Body Models-My last gripe is the body models. They still dont look too much like real soccer players. they should look more solid and have an athletes physicality. Thank u EA for listening to your fans feedback, i hope FIFA 10 will be the best ever. Cheers to all those who took off some time to read this, LETS FIFA 10!

06-12-2008, 09:42 AM	#58 (permalink)
Rockba Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 10	FIFA 09 gameplay improvements for FIFA 10 OK, i dont know how official this list is but i guess if its official, then EA should have a look at it so i would want to be very critical, as i love FIFA 09, and i only want FIFA 10 to be the best. As usual, the top priority should be gameplay before any manager mode , ( i know some really were dissapointed with it this year) or online modes. So Ill just make my comments critical on everything concerning the gameplay Gameplay-Let me first say that there is something i dont know if ea has fully reaslized yet, but its the little things that make a good game. ingame animations and cutscens. yes, they did a good job here but much is still to be done. Instead of all those ridiculous cutscenes , take a look at pes for example, better use realistic ingame animations which i believe uses less disk space. Watch TV matches, those scenes never happen when a ref gives a card, its like its some hollywood movie filmed from a weird angle. When a player shoots wide, he should kick the grass ingame or cover his face with his shirt. if he shot and fell down and missed he can situp, pull up his socks and get a hand up from a team mate,i mean believe me this make the game more believable.When the ball goes out, the player should go pick it up and wipe it on his shirt, i mean i see that all the time. A simulation is not only about how the gameplays but also what goes on that makes it feel like its a football match. The entrance scenes are not bad but they are below par. For me it ruins the excitement before a match.Where are the refs before the players exit the tunnels? add him with his officials holding the flags, while he holds the ball. Lets see a player or two in the crowd shouting out, waving flags, i mean again i would say just look at pes 09 for entrance scenes to get wat im saying. Even the aspect of controlled celebrations should have an option to be switched off. Most look ridiculous. Id rather have anelka score and do his trade mark butterfly INGAME, or have Campbell run at the crowd in excitement in game. i know i keep saying this but look at pes 09, it does an excellent job in TV representation. A player scores a goal and starts running and his team mate pulls him down ingame before the camera zooms in. The Touchline Coaches and subs- Another issue that i had with fifa 08, which part has been solved in 09 is the touch line. Wheres the coach or the reserve team box? this is necessary trust me. You could use real coach faces for may be only CL teams and genric faces for the rest. How good would it be if wen u change your tactics u could see Arsene wenger at the touch line shouting out words at his youngsters and makin signs, or a player warming up for a sub. And talking ablout subs, they have the worst cutscenes. We should have the fourth official holding up the board with the sub waiting to enter i mean realistic cutscenes should not be that hard to get. Long rangers -Now there can be nothing as spectacular as a well placed cracker from a player like Stevie G (captain fantastic) into a top corner from 35 yards out. how can fifa be a simulation without this. Watch the prem league or something, they are frequent enough, belletti style. But in this game, i dont know if its the shots which balloon away too often (the ball weight in fia08 feels very right,it feels heavy enough) or its the GKs who are too good. Goalies- And yes the GK logic has been rewritten but they just cant be beaten from distance which makes them feel superhuman. GKs ARE HUMAN! They should be caught unawares at times, or sometimes just watch a well placed FK dash into the top corner and start blaming the wall. Also as if beating them from far was not a problem enough, its a problem at close when you want to round them up torres style. They should be easier to round up like in pes 09. I know sometomes u can use those complex skills to get past them on one-on-one, but it should not only be that way. Beating the AI players -But then this is where theres another problem. Getting past the AI players. Its close to impossible to beating players by dribbling past them, u have to use skill moves which take some time too. Players should have closer ball control and should be able to beat defenders realistically. This problem i feel comes from the ease with which tackles are made. Just holding the X or A button (PS3 or 360) makes the tackling very easy. the defender just stands in your way and tackles, NO! In real life the defenders run back while trying to get your pace and then the attacker has to change pace at times to beat the defender, but i think this just a problem with the tackling system, which makes it too easy to get the ball. Dribbling animation-My next problem is the dribbling animation. Some are good, but the change of direction animation DOES NOT look realistic and sometimes the player stretch out weirdly. Please change the dribbling animations! Set pieces and quick FK-Theres also something about the set peices. Tall defenders SHOULD go up for corner kicks, look sat hyppia or vidic for example, thats how they get their goals! FIFA 10 would do very well to have a setpiece editor where you can plan out how many players go for a corner kick or the 2nd fk man etc. And y is there no quick free kick rule, I mean this will keep the pace of the game rather than stopping the game unnecesarily allowing subs which waste even more time. PUT QUICK FREE KICKS! Body Models-My last gripe is the body models. They still dont look too much like real soccer players. they should look more solid and have an athletes physicality. Thank u EA for listening to your fans feedback, i hope FIFA 10 will be the best ever. Cheers to all those who took off some time to read this, LETS FIFA 10!