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bluchampblogger · 20-10-2008, 07:45 PM

In my previous post, I had talked about how some tweaking of the custom tactics for the opponent teams would make this game absolutely brilliant with variety and randomness. Thanks for your overwhelming response for that idea. As a result of your support, now I'm going to suggest you some custom tactic set ups for various types of opponents. My basic assumption is that you would be playing for a top team or a champions league team.

Relegation battlers: Let's see how they normally play. Primarily, draw is a great result for them. They may not have matching skill or pace to weave an attack from back to front too often. They would go for route one football of hoofing it up to the target men or in the D-area in some hope. They may not be tactically sound in defending and organisation but they would make it up with spirited tackles and interceptions. They would defend in numbers while leaving very few in attack. They would cross a lot and given the opportunity, they'd rather shoot instead of wasting it with a hopeful further build up play. Build Up - Speed: 40 Passing: 85 Positioning: Organised. Chance Creation - Passing: 30 Crossing: 80 Shooting: 55 Positioning: Organised. Defence - Pressure: 35 Aggression: 75 Team width: 20 Defender Line: Cover.

In build-up, they're slow and long. That means when they have the ball in their own half, they won't hurry up the attack and that they use a lot of long balls. Because they'll use long balls, their attackers would position themselves to receive the long passes, which might give you some space in the midfield. In chance creation, they pass safely, cross and shoot a lot. In defence, they won't chase you when you're in your half but will get involved as you get closer to your final third. They're also very aggressive in winning the ball from you. They wouldn't mind a crunching tackle. Defender line should be set to cover if you want a challenging game.

Mid-tablers: Must be pretty average in attack and should concentrate on defending. They might have one or two star players and the rest should be decent but may not be good enough. I'd make quicker than the relegation battlers in build up speed. I'll make it 50. The passing in build up should be 70 which means both short passes and long passes but still more of the latter. In chance creation I'd expect them to take more risks in passing so that would be 50 and I'd keep the crossing at 80 and bring down the shooting to 40 as I think they are more comfortable on the ball than the relegation battlers. In defence, I'd bring down the pressure to 30 as it would help with a quicker build up play, if the ball is won. I'd keep the aggression at 75 as I think that's the ideal setting for aggression across all teams. I can put the team width to 30 as the defenders could be a bit better and hence should be able to make up the lateral distance. Build Up - Speed: 50 Passing: 70 Positioning: Organised. Chance Creation - Passing: 50 Crossing: 80 Shooting: 40 Positioning: Organised. Defence - Pressure: 30 Aggression: 75 Team width: 30 Defender Line: Cover.

Euro-aspirants: These are good teams that may not have those five star players but still can give a great challenge to the biggies. They should have some skillful players and can be pacy. I'll give them a 60 in build up play speed and passing in build up should be 55 or 60. This means they can play short passes as well as long passes. It's more situational. The riskiness of passing in chance creation must be 65, which means they'll go for the risky passes but they might have the players to back it up. Crossing should be 55 or 60 while shooting can be 50 or 60. Basically, they'll rely less on crossing and more on passing and shooting. This could be different in various leagues, so I suggest you make you appropriate customisations. In positioning in chance creation, you can make it 'free form' for certain teams which would make the game lot more interesting and random. Pressure and aggression should remain as 30 and 75 respectively while the team width can be 40 or 45, which will help them cut down our crosses. I suggest you alwasy have the defender line as 'cover' across all teams. Build Up - Speed: 60 Passing: 60 Positioning: Organised. Chance Creation - Passing: 65 Crossing: 55 Shooting: 60 Positioning: Freeform. Defence - Pressure: 30 Aggression: 75 Team width: 40. Defender Line: Cover.

For the champions league teams, especially the so-called big teams, the custom tactics set up for build up and chance creation is almost perfect already. But since the defence sliders are messed up, you might have to change that alone for them. Once again, pressure can be 30 and aggression 75. For a team like Chelsea if you set the aggression slider to 75, they might be a massive challenge to your attackers, because they have a top class defence and most of the team could tackle rather well. The team width can be 50 for teams which uses wing backs and 40 otherwise.

If you don't know already, there are only 28 slots for saving custom tactics. That's a shame. Anyway, I'm using it this way. 3 slots for my team (Chelsea), 1 for relegation battlers, 1 for mid-tablers, 1 for Euro-aspirants and 18 other slots for specific top teams which are Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man City (love 'em or hate 'em, you can't ignore 'em!), Real Madrid, Barca, Sevilla, Atletico Madrid, Valencia, Villareal, Inter, Milan, Juventus, Roma, Fiorentina, Bayern, Lyon and Porto. Now this leaves 4 empty slots which can be used for the in-game tactical changes.

So I'll have unique tactic setups for the above mentioned top teams and the other teams in English, Spanish and Italian leagues would get one of the tactics of (a) relegation battlers (b) mid-tablers (c) euro aspirants. As long as I've the teams fixed in the premier league, la liga and serie a, I'm fine. These leagues account for 90% of my matches. This might have left some leagues untouched. That's fine. Either I don't use them or I'm fine with the occasional random match where I can run past the defence through the centre. May be, I'd be playing samba football by then that I'd not think of route ones!

XBOX 3760 users - These tactics are saved in my FIFA 09 locker (XBL: bluechampblogger)

PS3 users - Click on the below image and update the values manually.

P.S: The slider values are ased on my own opinions and preferences. Please change it for yourself if you wish. Don't need to bash me but certainly we can have a matured discussion on what the sliders should be. But I have tested the above values and they work for me superbly.

20-10-2008, 07:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
bluchampblogger Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 565 Blog Entries: 5	Custom tactics suggestions for realistic gameplay in FIFA 09 In my previous post, I had talked about how some tweaking of the custom tactics for the opponent teams would make this game absolutely brilliant with variety and randomness. Thanks for your overwhelming response for that idea. As a result of your support, now I'm going to suggest you some custom tactic set ups for various types of opponents. My basic assumption is that you would be playing for a top team or a champions league team. Relegation battlers: Let's see how they normally play. Primarily, draw is a great result for them. They may not have matching skill or pace to weave an attack from back to front too often. They would go for route one football of hoofing it up to the target men or in the D-area in some hope. They may not be tactically sound in defending and organisation but they would make it up with spirited tackles and interceptions. They would defend in numbers while leaving very few in attack. They would cross a lot and given the opportunity, they'd rather shoot instead of wasting it with a hopeful further build up play. Build Up - Speed: 40 Passing: 85 Positioning: Organised. Chance Creation - Passing: 30 Crossing: 80 Shooting: 55 Positioning: Organised. Defence - Pressure: 35 Aggression: 75 Team width: 20 Defender Line: Cover. In build-up, they're slow and long. That means when they have the ball in their own half, they won't hurry up the attack and that they use a lot of long balls. Because they'll use long balls, their attackers would position themselves to receive the long passes, which might give you some space in the midfield. In chance creation, they pass safely, cross and shoot a lot. In defence, they won't chase you when you're in your half but will get involved as you get closer to your final third. They're also very aggressive in winning the ball from you. They wouldn't mind a crunching tackle. Defender line should be set to cover if you want a challenging game. Mid-tablers: Must be pretty average in attack and should concentrate on defending. They might have one or two star players and the rest should be decent but may not be good enough. I'd make quicker than the relegation battlers in build up speed. I'll make it 50. The passing in build up should be 70 which means both short passes and long passes but still more of the latter. In chance creation I'd expect them to take more risks in passing so that would be 50 and I'd keep the crossing at 80 and bring down the shooting to 40 as I think they are more comfortable on the ball than the relegation battlers. In defence, I'd bring down the pressure to 30 as it would help with a quicker build up play, if the ball is won. I'd keep the aggression at 75 as I think that's the ideal setting for aggression across all teams. I can put the team width to 30 as the defenders could be a bit better and hence should be able to make up the lateral distance. Build Up - Speed: 50 Passing: 70 Positioning: Organised. Chance Creation - Passing: 50 Crossing: 80 Shooting: 40 Positioning: Organised. Defence - Pressure: 30 Aggression: 75 Team width: 30 Defender Line: Cover. Euro-aspirants: These are good teams that may not have those five star players but still can give a great challenge to the biggies. They should have some skillful players and can be pacy. I'll give them a 60 in build up play speed and passing in build up should be 55 or 60. This means they can play short passes as well as long passes. It's more situational. The riskiness of passing in chance creation must be 65, which means they'll go for the risky passes but they might have the players to back it up. Crossing should be 55 or 60 while shooting can be 50 or 60. Basically, they'll rely less on crossing and more on passing and shooting. This could be different in various leagues, so I suggest you make you appropriate customisations. In positioning in chance creation, you can make it 'free form' for certain teams which would make the game lot more interesting and random. Pressure and aggression should remain as 30 and 75 respectively while the team width can be 40 or 45, which will help them cut down our crosses. I suggest you alwasy have the defender line as 'cover' across all teams. Build Up - Speed: 60 Passing: 60 Positioning: Organised. Chance Creation - Passing: 65 Crossing: 55 Shooting: 60 Positioning: Freeform. Defence - Pressure: 30 Aggression: 75 Team width: 40. Defender Line: Cover. For the champions league teams, especially the so-called big teams, the custom tactics set up for build up and chance creation is almost perfect already. But since the defence sliders are messed up, you might have to change that alone for them. Once again, pressure can be 30 and aggression 75. For a team like Chelsea if you set the aggression slider to 75, they might be a massive challenge to your attackers, because they have a top class defence and most of the team could tackle rather well. The team width can be 50 for teams which uses wing backs and 40 otherwise. If you don't know already, there are only 28 slots for saving custom tactics. That's a shame. Anyway, I'm using it this way. 3 slots for my team (Chelsea), 1 for relegation battlers, 1 for mid-tablers, 1 for Euro-aspirants and 18 other slots for specific top teams which are Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man City (love 'em or hate 'em, you can't ignore 'em!), Real Madrid, Barca, Sevilla, Atletico Madrid, Valencia, Villareal, Inter, Milan, Juventus, Roma, Fiorentina, Bayern, Lyon and Porto. Now this leaves 4 empty slots which can be used for the in-game tactical changes. So I'll have unique tactic setups for the above mentioned top teams and the other teams in English, Spanish and Italian leagues would get one of the tactics of (a) relegation battlers (b) mid-tablers (c) euro aspirants. As long as I've the teams fixed in the premier league, la liga and serie a, I'm fine. These leagues account for 90% of my matches. This might have left some leagues untouched. That's fine. Either I don't use them or I'm fine with the occasional random match where I can run past the defence through the centre. May be, I'd be playing samba football by then that I'd not think of route ones! XBOX 3760 users - These tactics are saved in my FIFA 09 locker (XBL: bluechampblogger) PS3 users - Click on the below image and update the values manually. P.S: The slider values are ased on my own opinions and preferences. Please change it for yourself if you wish. Don't need to bash me but certainly we can have a matured discussion on what the sliders should be. But I have tested the above values and they work for me superbly. __________________ Last edited by bluchampblogger; 28-10-2008 at 09:09 AM..